r/ChainsawMan • u/JeanneDAlter . • Jun 27 '23
[DISC] Chainsaw Man - Ch. 134 links Discussion
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u/serrations_ Jul 11 '23 edited Jul 11 '23
7ish hours until we find out how Dennis' religous cult is doing. Or it's another food chapter.
Edit: it was kinda a food chapter
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u/Intl_Prestige_Whore Jul 11 '23
WHEN IS IT COMING AAH
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u/ZefMC Jul 11 '23
based on the last couple of chapters' reddit posts, in roughly 7 hours (i too am impatient and checking here ;~; )
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u/Arhenius_Yoda Dennis and Powy are just Siblings! Jul 07 '23
I agree. Denji is more chainsaw man than him! It really broke my heart...
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u/haitaka09 Jul 06 '23
Is it not ridiculous for Yoshida to threaten Denji to kill Nayuta? At least current control devil is a nice person. You’d risk it by killing her and turning the next one into another Makima. So, the way I see is that either he doesn’t know Nayuta’s real identity or he is bluffing.
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u/HonestTangerine2 Jul 07 '23
Yoshida feels like he has his own plans outside public safety. He’s been giving Walmart brand Makima vibes for a minute now until this last chapter where he actually broke a bit. I think he’s working on something with Kishibe or another
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u/Arhenius_Yoda Dennis and Powy are just Siblings! Jul 07 '23
Or getting Denji to get back to Devil Chainsaw Man form and get in berserk mode...
Damn it would be crazy scene!
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u/Muscalp Jul 05 '23
Pretty sure now the fake Chainsaw is Yoshida
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u/Haunting_Sky_3967 Jul 07 '23
Octopi do have a camoflauge ability, perhaps he has a disguise ability akin to that
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u/nogumz Jul 05 '23
Is the manga permanently biweekly now?
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u/Monk_Philosophy Jul 10 '23
IIRC the pattern has been O-O-O-x-O-x-repeat with each of those being a week.
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Jul 05 '23
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u/nogumz Jul 05 '23
Ok I just saw a lot of replies of people saying it’s biweekly now so I got confused
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u/Regex00 Jul 04 '23
This is late but I feel like I gotta jot down some stuff, mostly two unanswered questions.
Denji made a pact with the Power to find the next Blood Devil. If Denji decided to never turn in to Chainsaw Man again, and thus not fulfill that pact, what happens? I'm choosing to believe that it was intentional to have Meowy walk in on Denji while he's questioning things to serve as either a reminder of a debt unpaid, or something else.
"Everyone who asks to be saved by Chainsaw, is eventually killed by Chainsaw", is basically what Makima said back in part 1. Kobeni asked to be saved, but didn't necessarily ask for Chainsaw Man to save her, I dunno if that escapes a loop hole on that. Asa however straight up said the danger phrase, yet she lives. I wonder if it was just the fact that Pochita was so strong in CSM form that he accidentally killed everyone he tried to help (seems likely), or if it's fated to be that way regardless. Either way I'm curious with what's going to happen between Denji and Asa, and since him killing her would be among the most painful things that could happen in the manga, I'm planning for it.
Thoughts anyone?
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u/MotherGiraffe Jul 06 '23
I may be misremembering, but I think there was something mentioned early on in part 1 (I think in the eternity devil hotel?) where they mentioned that devils cannot make contracts with other devils and I got the impression they were implying that Denji could not either. I feel like Denji and Power's contract was more of a "promise" than a rule-abiding devil contract, despite the diction choice of Power.
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u/stargazerspls401 Jul 05 '23
I just assume CSM killing the devils that ask for his help is his way of evacuating them from hell since devils can only leave it through death (with the exception of being summoned)
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u/mountain_dijaj Jul 04 '23
Waited all day for chapter
Checks m+
Day ruined
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u/Key-Command8463 Jul 04 '23
HAHAHAH WHAT AN IDIOT
jk, I did the same 🤣thought it would be out today lmao
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u/HallenserBoy Jul 03 '23
The way fake chainsawman bothers Denji reminds me of the Chris-Chan Liquid Chris saga.
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u/Himesis Jul 03 '23
oh shit I just thought of something, based on all this fake Chainsaw Man drama, what if all this time the War Devil doesn't really have a Beef with Chainsaw Man/Poochita but in reality has a vendetta/was tricked by this fake Chainsaw Man drama?
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u/ostiniatoze Jul 03 '23
That would imply that fakey also removes concepts by eating them, which seems unlikely
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u/Himesis Jul 05 '23
care to go into detail, I'm not polished up on the lore.
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u/ostiniatoze Jul 05 '23
Devils are created and strengthened by peoples fear, when Denji eats a devil the thing it represents is removed from history. War's problem with Chainsaw man is that he ate things like nuclear war, and the holocaust, which reduced people's fear of war, and that made them weaker.
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u/Himesis Jul 12 '23
Whelp looks like I was right.
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u/ostiniatoze Jul 12 '23
I don't think so, isn't the Black one the original, i.e. Pochita's true form?
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u/Himesis Jul 03 '23
That fake is gonna literally get a chainsaw up his ass. Also put your paws up for Meowy people!
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u/disabled-Pie4849 Jul 01 '23
I can’t wait for that fake to get his jaw ripped off and the devil hunters to get there ass whooped
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u/ZaWarudo1145 Jun 30 '23
Nayuta and Denji interactions make my heart swell I feel so happy that he has someone to give and receive familial affection from after losing Power and Aki
But I just know in my heart Fujimotor is doing this on purpose and will absolutely obliterate this relationship by the end of the story somehow 😥
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u/Himesis Jul 03 '23
Denji gradually turning from extreme pervert to best Dad, why is it all the perverts eventually end up with daughters of their own.
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u/Eraea Jun 30 '23
I hope this is gonna drive/motivate Denji to become way more independent in his actions, where he's the neutral third party that becomes a big variable, just like Pochita, but this time around he has Control on his side unlike before where he only had Beam, Angel, Spider, Wrath.. ALSO WHERE IS POWER
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u/foxatwork Jun 30 '23
calling it right now, the Nostradamus / Apocalypse Devil is gonna be incredibly strong thanks to everybody being scared of the apocalypse
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u/Himesis Jul 03 '23
so a Fear Devil?
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u/Master_Lego_Yoda Jul 03 '23
every devil is a fear devil, the whole point is the more people are scared of a concept the more powerful the devil for that idea is
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u/Memeshats Jul 04 '23
But a Fear Devil could also exist. Things such as Phobiaphobia is a real thing, the fear of fear is a real thing and it would power a Fear Devil. And in a world like CSM, where it's known that fear powers devils, the knowledge that "the more people fear, the more dangerous devils become", is a scary one that would cause atleast some people to be afraid of others becoming afraid. I don't know if it's anything Fujimoto would be too interested in using in the series, when there are many other concepts he could also use for Devils that fit his plans, and he likes picking the less obvious answers, but who knows.
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u/Majistic12 Jul 04 '23
...Fear Fear Devil?
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u/justlikeapenguin Jul 04 '23
Could there be a devil devil? Fear of devils?
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u/Glitchy13 Jul 04 '23
I think fear of devils in general make all devils stronger. That’s why devils like the tomato devil can exist
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u/justlikeapenguin Jul 04 '23
In sure they mentioned the fear of the gun devil made everyone fear all the devils and Makima says since then every devil has been stronger
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u/SecludedStillness Jun 30 '23
Who is on what side is a bit confusing right now
Because Fami seems to be with the Chainsawman club and was behind the falling devil incident. The justice devil and Fakesawman seem to be on this side as well.
BUT. The falling devil incident was saved by Fakesaw Man, who just went on stage during the chainsawman club.
Even if fami's intention was to capture Asa/Yoru and not Denji for that, why would Fakesaw man give the opportunity for Asa to escape as well then....? He clearly seemed to be telling them to save themselves.
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u/This_Durian_4268 x x Jul 03 '23
I think this is going to end up into a denji vs everyone. He’s gonna be against the csm cult thing (and fami), basically all of Japanese citizens and probably public safety too in order to protect nayuta.
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u/Xervicx Jul 10 '23
I like this theory. It would fit well with the ongoing theme of him wanting attention and praise from everyone, because he doesn't know how to fulfill his actual desire of intimacy and strong, personal relationships.
It might truly be him vs everyone... including Fakesawman, which represents his more greedy nature, and the desires that would never really have fulfilled him (Additionally, that could be Yoshida's plan: Making Denji "kill" the parts of himself Yoshida thinks are bad, to make him a "True hero").
So it might actually be Team Denji vs everyone else, with Denji having people he can rely on that he bonds with along his journey (like Asa/Yoru).
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u/Nobody5464 Jun 30 '23
I have two theories
It’s yet another imposter and the fakesaw man who saved them is not the one on tv right now.
While their goals may be Aligned in stopping the apocalypse if what this fakesaw man has said is true he became fakesaw man by an interaction with the justice devil. We know from yuko that a deal with the justice devil turns your sense of justice into power. Therefore for fakesaw man to become fakesaw man by contracting with justice devil he has to completely believe that chainsaw man is justice. In which case he might see it as more correct to save chainsaw man even if it does interfere with the plan of his associate fami.
Personally I’m hoping for option 1 because I have a theory about fakesaw man that would be proven false if this tv guy is reeling the truth and also the only imposter.
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u/SomeOtaku54 Jun 30 '23
OK now I'm curious. What is your theory about Fakesaw man?
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u/Nobody5464 Jun 30 '23
This is my theory but most people who responded really don’t think it could be right.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChainsawMan/comments/13d4in4/fake_saw_man_theory/
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u/The_Fullmetal_Shorty Jun 29 '23
I love seeing Nayuta and Dennis just do normal stuff like drying hair
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u/The_Sandy_Artist Jun 29 '23
I feel like the future vents might go something like Fakesaw man is impersonating Denji and eventually gets into huge trouble(either that Denji himself gets into trouble). So he is forced to transform and stop the threat, while Yoshida keeps his promise and starts pursuing Nayuta, so while the initial threat it wrapping up, Yoshida's threat takes on the primary object of Denji's life now, and maybe that hole thing will spiral into a battle between Denji and Yoshida's group, with him struggling with the whole "How can I protect the civilians AND Nayuta". However, key info about Nostradamus might be revealed during or after the events, so Denji and Yoshida form a temporary truce with themselves and famine&control(Nayuta) to stop the threat, With Asa finally joining in through The War devil's intention/bond with her sisters.
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u/neon93 Jun 29 '23
Off topic but I like to think that at some point Denji or Aki taught Power how to use chopsticks. Towards the beginning at the division 4 party she just uses them by stabbing food. Later on during the Hokkaido trip she uses them properly.
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u/VolkiharVanHelsing Jun 29 '23
People better consume these last 2 chapters dearly to heart because Fujimoto straight up screaming about Denji's primary goal lately and I'm sick of pulling up "reading comprehension devil" meme again and again
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u/TwerpKnight Jun 29 '23
Denji having an introspective moment while taking a dump is deeply relatable.
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u/ApolloX-2 Jun 29 '23
I bet Denji was thinking more of a Superman Returns type of life where things go to shit without him and he triumphantly returns to cheering crowds.
I really want to see fake-saw man transform.
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u/GeorgeRRZimmerman Jun 30 '23
It'll look like a triumphant return but Denji and Fakesaw Man will end up in the same place, at the same time and then it'll just be a shitshow. The organization will crumble to a combination of church member walkouts, and the police breaking up whatever's left.
Denji won't be successful - now instead of having a bunch of people scared of him and some people cheering him on, he'll just end up with a bunch of people scared of him and only Nayuta cheering him on.
Maybe I'll be wrong. Maybe Denji will actually grab the reins and do something for himself for once instead of just tagging along for the ride. There's just nothing indicating that he's going to start directing his own actions and forming his own motives... yet.
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u/Throwaway46034792 Jun 29 '23
Denji is such a good brother
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u/Himesis Jul 03 '23
Slowly getting best dad vibes out of him, hope it doesn't turn groomer as she ages up.
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u/Monochrofanatic Jul 04 '23
tf
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u/Himesis Jul 05 '23
they aren't blood related and some guys actually do that? In case your new to manga Japan covers a lot of fucked up shit in their material. Elfen Lid is such a example.
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u/leesente Jun 29 '23
why i have feeling justice devil looks like doctor octopus in spiderman
stealing spiderman job check
impersonating chainsaw man/spiderman with superior spider check
throwing bs argument check lol
keep Fucking Come back check
but tbh kinda sad look at denji now ... he looks so tired with all the bullshit happen in society n argument about are CSM Hero or Menace ? sucks to be denji
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u/nosh62_wastaken Jun 29 '23
At this point, Denji is just an alternate version of Peter Parker 🗿
Both are broken and depressed yet masks their sadness with jokes and shit, both have insane villains, both have the power to swing using buildings, both have their first romantic partner/interest killed by someone they knew/liked, etc. There's way too many parallels :22176:
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u/CircleHumper Jun 28 '23
Kind of a touching chapter. Dennis seeking out a "higher heaven" that's more than just the bare minimum life. The dude is insanely ignorant and probably has brain damage, but still drops way too relatable shit like that.
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u/TheBlueHorned Jun 28 '23
Aww Nayuta “There, there” stay good to us please
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u/InsignificantRhino Jun 28 '23
Man Fujimoto is so good at writing character motivations. Even when they are dumb, they are believeable based on the character. And right now you can tell that Denji just doesn’t know what he is living for. He is trying to be content knowing he has the life he dreamed of, but he realizes that as soon as he reaches one dream he has a new one. Look up the hedonic treadmill, it is a major theme in CSM.
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u/fallaround Jun 28 '23
I think Yoshida will retract his deal with denji because what fakesaw man is doing(giving the church some Legitimacy) is what yoshida was trying to prevent
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u/kekeliu Jun 29 '23
Interesting, I thought that Yoshida and Fami were orchestrating this church thing together and they want to push their own narrative using fakesaw man, so if denji keeps at it, it’ll like dilute the “pure” and “just” message they’re trying to push
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u/OrangeTallion Jun 29 '23
Are you implying Yoshida has a contract with Denji or no?
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u/fallaround Jun 29 '23
Not a contract just he claimed he wanted denji to stop being chainsaw man so that the chainsawman church people will calm down but the church doesn’t need the real chainsaw man anymore so it seems yoshida would say “I take it back, we won’t kill nayuta”
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u/Nightrunner823mcpro Jun 28 '23
This chapter was hella good as they usually are, but in terms of playing with emotions it does a great job. Denji contemplating if he enjoys his life, and then seeing Meowy enter the bathroom with him, it hurts but its so good.
Also fakesaw is looking more and more like Seigi, and interestingly enough he doesn't have an eyepatch meaning if he is part devil, it would've healed him, like with denji. That doesn't explain the cut up arms though
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u/LookAtItGo123 Jun 29 '23
Yea! we had a run of wild madness for the entirety of the falling devil fight. 2nd csm? coolafbike! mamachef. and everyone falling up? It's so wild and now that things calmed down and we go into a character arc seeing Denji like this hurts so fucking bad it feels so good. I think I am beyond hope now.
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u/RaViNuS-hUnGrYeeee Jun 28 '23
Pochita not answering Denji because he is no longer with him, but Denji is too dense to realize.
Pochita is the 2nd Chainsaw Man we saw in hell.
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u/Complaint-Efficient Jun 28 '23
Denji still has Pochita's ripcord tail coming out of his chest, so I doubt this is true.
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u/RaViNuS-hUnGrYeeee Jun 28 '23
That could merely be a cosmetic part of contract.
If it's not Pochita in hell then Pochita may have made contracts with other humans.
Guy in this chapter could really be another chainsaw man.
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u/Meyrunmurat_108101 Jun 29 '23
Bro... Pochita and Denji talked at chapter 97.
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u/Conquestenjoyer Jun 28 '23
Why is nobody talking about the fact that this is probably the real fakesawman because he’s gonna have to prove it by transforming, and the fact that the justice devil theories were right
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u/Rdasher123 Jun 29 '23
It’s weird because the Chainsaw Church is seemingly orchestrated by Fami, but Fakesaw went directly against her plans by helping Denji and Asa out of Hell. Unless something happened offscreen, it’s hard to think they work together now.
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u/Superb_Ad2722 Jun 28 '23
I had a dream where makima came out of the current control devil and everyone started becoming dogs
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 28 '23
Control devils crippling denji forever,so sad.
He is not him anymore to protect something that came out the crap that killed those who accpted him the way he was
And even more,Asa is put aside when she deserved much more,she is the one deserving undesrtanding and protection
I hope those "nayuta centric" chapters end
For those praising him because he cares about nayuta,i am sorry but i don't care about her,anything control devil related is just damage to him.
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u/Kronin1988 Jul 05 '23
Denji cares for Nayuta and Nayuta cares for Denji. This is enough for wishing to protect someone. Love, as any other kind of feeling, has not to be explained.
Also Nayuta and Makima are very different people. Their love could be possessive tied to their innate nature, but Nayuta really put in her thoughts Denji and couldn't really act in a such cruel way toward him.
P.S. I believe that Asa is fated to fall in a spiral of darkness, IMO there is plot wise reason if just now she will miss the needed support.
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u/Miro__Miro Jul 05 '23
We'll see,until now she is still manipulating him(in a childish way),that you want it too see or not is a different matter. She is still little so she has less strenght in her power,you have 2 outcome: she will become like makima or not. Now is still early to see,but sadly I think her inner behaviour will show sooner or later. I'll even be happy to be wrong and you right,I tell you,but me and being happy in this serie never happened,so.
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u/Kronin1988 Jul 05 '23 edited Jul 05 '23
Well, Nayuta also seemed a spoiled brat in the chapters before the fight with Falling Devil for wishing to see Denji to become Chainsaw Man and also making leverage on his wish to be appreciated (apparently another subtle mind manipulation). But in this last chapter we see her accepting the decision of Denji to stop being Chainsaw Man but still genuinely questioning him if it's just what he truly wishes (and she knows that her life is in peril if he will transform again, so definitely she is not doing it for herself).
IMO she could be more mature of what we saw so far and her Devil nature/childish attitude could be also for humorous purposes. By the way Fujimoto is unpredictable and like you I don't discard the idea that she could become a danger in future. Until now anyway I don't see any confirmations for it.
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u/Miro__Miro Jul 05 '23
She still tried to manipulate him telling not to go near asa,dont forget. It seems either makima because she is hot or little cute nayuta gets their things forgiven literally istantly. She has still more wrong done than right,even now. It is not she has to show still bad signs,she still has to show GOOD SIGNS instead.
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u/Kronin1988 Jul 05 '23
A good sign is that she cares for Denji, the ways how this happens can be questioned, but definitely it's at least an human connection that it was absent in Makima. This anyway could make of her a loving sister, but not necessarily a good sister or a good person.
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u/Miro__Miro Jul 05 '23
We'll see,i still hold my doubts. Again I hope you are right because it could give a meaning to all the crap happened before with makima,but I need to see result first.
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 29 '23
Looking for someone that counterargument this one with decent facts of what makima did for denji progress. All I had were insults that do nothing to me or people that spoke about "development" when his face clearly says i am dead inside the more chapters come out. Did even people see how he was brilliant with with asa and the date? He was having fun! Now he is just giving up himself for a worthless crap child. Fuck it seems people don't want him to be happy anymore. Denji for sure is not my favorite char,but damn still I dont like seeing him like this. For thise makima/nayuta fans:woofwoofwoof
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u/airylnovatech Jun 30 '23
But clearly, he's happy with Nayuta. If anything, this chapter illustrates how it's not really an issue of him being unhappy, it's that he constantly craves more from life even when he already has so many things that make him happy.
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 30 '23
He is happy with nayuta,ok nice argument so let's develop from that. Yes he is happy unless makima before took everything from him and nayuta is the only thing left(reason why I say Makima in her obsessive behaviour in the end is STILL WINNING through nayuta.). Unless nayuta herself does not want denji to be near asa or others(and with this still doing what makima wanted to do,to keep him for herself). Unless yoshida too wants him to stop him being chainsawman. All I see are toxic relationships at their finest,with someone that is close to a kid mentally and is easily influenced. Ofcourse he is "happy". Let him experience anything else and let him be free,let s see how it goes feom there. Ah yes,he tried already actually,he wanted to go the fuck away with reze but you know errr she was stopped by who....oh wait i cant remember,was that makima again?... So many things that makes him happy,like what? He is constantly denied of everything he wants to do. Are you reading the same serie or what? He is not free,he is giving up so much for someone that came out that shit that obliterated everything nice denji had. Nayuta is still doing what a control devil can do,chain him to her by making him think he is happy taking care of her.
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u/airylnovatech Jun 30 '23
Nayuta isn't an extension of Makima.
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 30 '23
Never said that,but you cannot change the behaviour that devil innately has,that is what I meant. You can kill nayuta and other 10 after her,same shit,it is called control devil for something. That is why I clearly said control devil are crippling denji and they want to keep him to theirself. It is what they do,they cannot help it,end of the story.
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u/Diosama__ Jun 28 '23
The way you are complaining here is like when makima was mad at Denji for not acting like chainsaw man, his character can change and develop instead of just being the same the whole time
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 29 '23
OH you mean "regress",use the right words thanks. Giving up on himself for a crap kid that came out someone that devastated everything nice in his life is not exactly "developing".
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u/Familiar-Treat-6236 Jun 29 '23
How to spot edgy teenager (or somebody who never grew out of that phase) on the internet
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 29 '23
How to spot simps I' rather say. Like when people told ted bundy or ramirez were too hot to kill someone and they had fans too Same kind of shit,just because makima is attractive people forget and forgive the shit she has done where in the end with nayuta she kinda won anyway in manipolate him
Again,any decent argument about makima instead of trying to insult me,because it does not work,no idea if you got that already.
Each -1 i get is a butthurt simp that cannot even reply this argument because you are stomped with literal facts.
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u/Familiar-Treat-6236 Jun 29 '23
Yea cry more bro
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 29 '23
Seriously the level of reply are so damn low I dont cry at all,the more minus i get the more i laugh instead lmao
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u/Familiar-Treat-6236 Jun 29 '23
Yea cry more about simps and minuses in a thread with no makima ever mentioned by me. Make yourself look more like a clown
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 28 '23
Hating a single fictional character makes me racist when I never did anything wrong in my life to anyone Okay i guess? For sure you know me more than I do,as long as you are sure of it.
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 28 '23
Wow amazing arguments tell me more please Is this all you have?
Or you hate the fact not everyone goes woofwoof to that shit makima was and what came after her?
Denji had a fine develop when he was sorrounded by the likes of power,aki and so on I happily remember the training with power Vs kishibe when they were goofy but tried their best,and still improved In beam he had someone who believed in him 100% of the time Even reze helped denji become better even as an "antagonist" Himeno was still inspiring for him too. And those are all gone thanks to a bitch that still lingers here.
All makima did was to exploit the horny that is inside denji for her ego,nothing more. Now we have a denji that is literally spent on himself.
Now call me pedo too,I am still missing that,i am offended greatly.
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 28 '23
Oh now we talk,excuses accepted
But look your dick is way too little for my taste,i am so sorry.
I know you will cry reading this but dont take it too bad,there are others that will like lil tiny too Hope you find the right one
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u/Miro__Miro Jun 28 '23
It is important that new generations become better Having higher standard and bigger tits is part of that I dont look,i am twice as old,even longevity is increased All I see is am winning every front Thanks for making me appreaciate my great progress
If you feel lost and put behind schedule you can take me as an example,you can still do better. I believe in you.
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u/bambam_39 Jun 28 '23
I like that he’s realising there’s no such thing as a normal like, just a false idea of one.
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u/NoDount Jun 28 '23
Excellent!
Denji resigns as a hero , while Fakesaw is impersonating Chainsawman. Fujimoto arranged three chapters to transition this result.
It describes in detail the significance of Chainsawman to Denji. No challenge to the hero surpasses this.
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u/YaboiGh0styy Jun 28 '23
Holy shit. This is the best chapter of part 2 so far. Probably one of my favourite chapters in the whole series.
Denji Breaking down because of another man taking credit for his work and stealing his identity was absolutely soul crushing. Fucking hell part two is just getting better and better.
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u/jackkrikorian Jun 28 '23
and fujimoto is getting so good at drawing facial expressions/feelings. it’s so good
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u/ThePr0l0gue Jun 28 '23
Funny how he’s actually making him look a lot better than he would on his own though, nothing would kill the support for Chainsaw Man faster than letting him get the mic lmfao
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u/Grumblepuck Jun 28 '23
I love it when we get into the crux of the character's psyche. What they're thinking, how they're feeling, conflicts within them, etc.
Denji, after fulfilling his dream of having a relatively normal life, is forced to submit the one thing that made all of that possible, Chainsaw Man. He questions whether he made the right call because he's doing this for Nayuta, but is indecisive on whether or not this will make him happy and/or content.
He longs for more.
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u/ThePr0l0gue Jun 28 '23 edited Jun 28 '23
Chainsaw Man got his foot in the door for a normal life but it also KEPT him from it. He hasn’t even actually tried to live life yet. His normal life is no life at all. If he just gives up after one day of being in his apartment then I don’t know what to think. Get a hobby. Read more books. Develop an atom of emotional intelligence so you can attract a woman who’s not a psychopath. Watch a movie. Teach Nayuta a game. Build a shelf. TRY, MOTHERFUCKER.
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u/Grumblepuck Jun 29 '23
I view it as Denji being unable to let go. After Aki, Power, hell, even after Makima died, it affected Denji personally to a massive extent. Now, he's letting go something that is apart of him, something that's kept him alive literally and metaphorically.
It's also worth pointing out that Denji, as CSM, he feels respected, loved, and adored. To see it be taken away, twice, it breaks him.
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u/ShockaDrewlu Jun 28 '23
Normal life is a prison when you've got something that makes you more than a normal person.
Every normal dude secretly wishes to be great.
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u/ThePr0l0gue Jun 28 '23
That’s more of a boyhood thing. When you’ve got something to prove and hole in your heart. Ego, grass is greener syndrome. You can satisfy these ambitions with so many small and fulfilling things that just require making the effort. Lift. Study. Cook. Connect. Travel. Become a world citizen. There are so many options
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u/rockmanj Jun 28 '23
I’ve seen how difficult it can be to deny your true nature and it creates resentment and bitterness. A “normal life” in that world is VERY different from ours and that goes double if you know you can turn into a superhero.
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u/SCO_IDK123 Jun 28 '23
Gives me a flashback to when Dennis goes “THE LADIES LOVE ME” and have a breakdown in front of the TV but it’s a total different context here.
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u/Hindubird Jun 28 '23
This parallel is really, really important. That time Kobeni told Denji that his shitty life under Makima is normal life. Then he decided he didn't want a normal life, he wanted more, he wanted to be Chainsaw Man.
Now he's still in a shitty life, scraping to get by and under other people's thumbs, having Nayuta as the sole good thing he has. No wonder he's so apathetic for the whole of Part 2 so far
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u/ZeusByrd Jun 28 '23
This was such a great chapter. From the sweet at home slice of life stuff, to the moment with Denji in the bathroom, to this bizarre Fakesaw Man reveal. Just a lot of great stuff going around.
Almost too good? The recent chapters have made me notice I just love Denji too much. It feels so much more natural and easier in my head for the story to revolve around him. Asa is easily one of my favorite characters in CSM, but I’ve almost forgotten that she’s the actual main character because Denji as the MC feels so natural. I’m loving Denji, but I’m hoping we recenter on Asa soon so I don’t end up feeling that I rather her as an important side character (like Aki or Power) over the MC in favor of Denji.
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u/Zlayf5 Jun 28 '23
I didn't expect it to be this type of chapter but Nayuta consoling Denji was great. Also Meowy!
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u/13nearing14 Jun 28 '23
This chapter reminded me why I relate to denji so much. At some point in life you may think you are comfortable with everything you have but then you realise you're striving for more
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u/Iron_Kingpin Jun 28 '23
I'm really liking how the direction has gotten since the start of part 2. And I really love the biblical posts. Great stuff.
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u/Justa_Mongrel Jun 28 '23
I absolutely love part 2, they've been really doing amazing with the emotions of Denji and Asa. Also Meowy is best cat
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u/KenmasStonerOlderBro Jun 28 '23
Have you read fire punch? There’s a chapter with no dialogue and it portrayed incredible emotions
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u/popeto49_ Jun 28 '23
Ive read FP, but I dont remember this chapter, can you remind me?
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u/KenmasStonerOlderBro Jun 28 '23 edited Jun 28 '23
It’s from chapter 46. It was when Agni unknowingly killed doma and his family
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u/DomHyrule Jun 28 '23
I love seeing the home life of Nayuta and Denji, like when he is drying her hair and stuff
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u/bjcat666 Jun 28 '23
I have a question regarding Nayuta. Do those guys understand how pointless their threats to kill her are? Like she's a literal horseman of apocalypse, control devil, how do they think they will kill her? She will just do Lelouche's special and make them off themselves if not something worse
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u/Objective-Banana8742 Jun 28 '23
People really overstimate Nayuta's strength, and forget how much Makima did to become strong. A bullet to the head and Nayuta is gone.
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u/JeanneDAlter . Jun 27 '23 edited Jun 27 '23
This is like the exact opposite of the "he like me fr".
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