r/ChainsawMan • u/JeanneDAlter . • Aug 15 '23
[DISC] Chainsaw Man - Ch. 139 links Discussion
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u/Bslayer67 Aug 23 '23
I don't get it, doesn't Denji basically have near limitless influence over the church since they all seem to worship Chainsaw man as more or less a deity? Could Denji not just change basically any rule in the church to his liking as part of his sign up deal? I mean even if Denji isn't smart enough to bargain with the church to get what he wants surely I would think that even he would realize that he might carry some influence there when the outside of the building is literally a giant chainsaw man.
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u/Gmknewday1 Aug 29 '23
- He's not that smart/isn't that type of thinker
- It's less they worship him and more that they worship the idolized version of him, in many ways they worship the full Demon chainsawman with 4 arms
- It's also more like they want him to join the church to FORCE him to lead them and control his path, something he doesn't want, he wants to make his own choices now. It's likely the church has many motives they are hiding and will try to force Denji to help them
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u/le-o Aug 23 '23
Denji is clever but he is also a very straightforward person. I don't think he thinks abstractly like that.
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u/Bslayer67 Aug 23 '23
Yeah but even swordman said to him that he could refuse stuff he doesn’t want to do which should be a pretty big hint that they are willing to give him a lot of authority for next to nothing in return. I dont know I feel like our boy might change his mind if given the right scenario if they reach some compromise later.
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u/Johndd1234 Aug 22 '23
I like the current theme of Denji deciding how he wants to live his life since he didn’t have a choice in the first part
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Aug 22 '23
They are tarnishing CSM's name with this cult lmao i could see how this comes about from all the rumors though and ofc Fami takes advantage of this to lure people in
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u/Man0Steel123 Aug 22 '23
You know the post yesterday about the Chainsaw man church turning into a sacrifice cult is getting more and more likely.
Good for Dennis for recognizing a cult for what it is
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u/WittyCombination6 Aug 22 '23
Don't worry Reze fans she was just in the other room waiting to have sex with Denji and get married
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u/UcanKek69 Aug 22 '23
That weird guy knew about denjis life just look at what he says about normal life. Its pretty obvious that this guy is either yoshida or a public safety dog.
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Aug 22 '23
Fami could know about it too I think, she's been putting in a ton of work behind the scenes to get Yoru to fight Pochita, and to get Yoru overpowered to fight Nostradamus
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u/u_Kyouma_zi Aug 22 '23
Shits starting to hit the fan. Im ready. If you looking for me, ill be in the Chainsawman chapel
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u/Crackracing Aug 22 '23
Hopefully Barem ends up being just as funny as him saying "burn for me,baby!" before trying to set Pochita on fire in the most unserious way in part 1
I still quote that line sometimes
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u/JohnDoe6104 Aug 22 '23
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u/Cautious-Affect7907 Aug 22 '23
So,
Whose taking bets Fujimoto is gonna put this kid through even worse hell than his sister?
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u/EpicHawkREDDIT Aug 22 '23
What if we kissed in the Chainsaw Man Chapel 😳👉👈
that whole church is weird but the implications of what Barem said to Denji are intriguing. I’m guessing Denji’s arc this part will be deciding between Chainsaw Man and having a normal life.
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u/UnluckyStranger Aug 22 '23 edited Aug 22 '23
I'll readily admit that im not the best at paying attention to detail, but this chapter is the first where whithout a shadow of doubt im thinking: "This is starting to feel a lot like that time when stuff begant to get weird in Fire Punch"
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u/Vivid-Initiative-357 Aug 22 '23
Elaborate pls bro , haven’t read fire punch
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u/joaomiguel_bc Aug 22 '23
First chapter of Fire Punch starts with incest, canibalism and genocide
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u/UnluckyStranger Aug 22 '23
Chapter one of Fire Punch set the bar so while weird, it was just the groud floor.
Let me phrase it another way. Part one focused more on Denji (sorta) if my memory serves, so everything that happened was facing "inward". Here, the scope get expanded and we are constantly looking "outwards" but still somewhat orbiting our boy.
But with every chapter that passes I have this constant image in my head that the walls that are this story's world are melting around us revealing more and more weird shit.
Idk, I just as well may be going crazy.
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u/SirCrackhead07 Aug 22 '23
If my wedding doesn't take place at the 'chainsaw man wedding chapel' then I'm not coming. :22158::22158:
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u/Himesis Aug 21 '23
After reading the most recent chapter my stance has changed from "handJob" to "footjob". An somehow the mangka will find a way to make it wholesome.
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u/InsanelyObesePoggers Aug 21 '23
don't act like you wouldn't do the same as him because we all know that everybody here is down bad
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u/The__Victator Aug 21 '23
These 3 are so damn funny together I like their dynamic.
Sick of Denji being on his own and miserable, I hope he can genuinely team up with these guys for the rest of Part 2.
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u/ZippyMommy Aug 20 '23
It’s so Denji to be against something at first, only to have a single pervy thing convince him so easily.
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u/MielRoz Aug 20 '23
Do you think we'll be seeing the old hybrids again, or will it be new ones?
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u/Green-Emergency-3976 Aug 22 '23
I think we'll see the new one's first, so next either whip or spear then the old one's
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u/Zombiechrist265 Aug 19 '23
Did he really jump off the roof just to beat him to the stairs? I love denji.
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u/cedjcdg Aug 18 '23
Bro might not find Power over there but Blood Devil Hybrid ? Might be .
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u/Cost-Far Aug 22 '23
Blood devil's hate for humans makes it quite unlikely that she will make a human hybrid
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u/NoDount Aug 18 '23
Miri “The Weapons walk with Chainsawman Church.”
The previous sentence sounds like Miri is not the only one Hybrid in Chainsawman Chuch. I wonder who else is with him?
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u/Brisky411 Aug 18 '23
I mean he did say that most of the top members are weapons, so its safe to assume there are quite a few hybrids in the church
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u/Eraea Aug 17 '23
Inb4 we are getting played by Denji, Kishibe, Pochita and Nayuta in a big ass mind game with the Public Safety and High Rank Demons not knowing dog shit
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u/maxthunder77 Aug 17 '23
We barely know the guy but i think I like him more than yoshida. I think denji and him could be best friends bc they seem so similar. I feel like they need each other. I hope they become friends
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u/Environmental_Ad8183 Aug 18 '23
In before miri gets murdered in front of denji's eyes
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u/WittyCombination6 Aug 22 '23
He's semi-immortal Miri can bounce back from getting murdered easy peasy
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u/DaBlakMayne Aug 17 '23
Yoshida might legitimately have a nervous breakdown upon hearing that Denji joined the church
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u/Guilty-Newspaper-195 Aug 17 '23
Does anything happen in this mid ass manga
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u/JeanneDAlter . Aug 17 '23
Yes, there are drawings and sometimes even words included amongst them.
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u/MyDadHat Aug 17 '23
Sword Guy: Join the church.
Denji: Nah.
Sword Guy: You'll get bitches.
Denji: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_IXzU-lnLU
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u/Professional_Lynx510 Aug 17 '23
Calm down, calm down. Are you telling me 'half devils' like Denji can resuscitate? So, Aki can be resuscitated?!
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u/Initial-Ad638 Aug 18 '23
Aki was turned into a gun fiend, they can come back from near fatal wounds but expiration is point of no return unlike hybrids which can come back if you put them back together.
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u/MunchingWaves Aug 17 '23
No. Hybrids can come back provided their "triggers" are activated (with Denji its the power chords, for instance). Fiends can't.
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u/Martin7431 Aug 17 '23
I’ve noticed that fakesaw hasn’t shown up at all since Denji was banned from transforming. I know it hasn’t been that long, but it’s interesting nonetheless. Is he aware that he’s taking a break?
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u/WittyCombination6 Aug 22 '23
My guess is Fakesaw isn't that strong physically and couldn't fight like Denji can.
Like we have seen Justice devil monsters like Yuko and the class president get killed by a handicapped war devil. Denji basic power form being a Hybrid is that he's Immortal.
So theoretically a powerful devil can easily kill Fakesaw but it would be hard for them to kill Denji. So you can't put Fakesaw in the same level of danger as you can with Denji. Like 1v1 brawl with a primal fear.
(But Fakesawman is useful because he can manipulate the masses with charisma and Chainsaw man's appearance)
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u/Infinubs Aug 17 '23 edited Aug 17 '23
There’s definitely two denjis, that teleporting statement feels like one of those really heavy clues that are supposed to be played off as a joke. I think there’s two Denji’s, so maybe fakesaw is another Denji trying to infiltrate the church.
Idk might not be some big integral conspiracy but that teleporting thing just feels too obvious to just be a joke about how eager he is.
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u/neon93 Aug 21 '23 edited Aug 24 '23
He moved at a super fast speed like Quanxi. If you look closely as the door closes, you can see speed lines. As the door is almost shut in the bottom left you see speed lines that aren't there in the next panel when the door is closed. Then as Sword Man is first shown walking down the stairs we see speed lines by the door. Denji moved at an insanely fast speed.
I think he's gotten stronger as a hybrid from how he was in part 1. He's moving at the speed of Quanxi here and his regeneration has improved. Like he caught his own cut off head and put it back on before it even hit the ground.
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Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23
Surprised to see almost no one mentioning this. It's almost the exact copy of a scene from The Prestige.
Also in this chapter Denji says he didn't fight Makima, which is also the same clue used in Prestige when main character says he didnt do something we saw him doing in a previous scene.
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u/maxthunder77 Aug 17 '23
I thought that at first but then I decided not to overthink it
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u/Infinubs Aug 17 '23
I respect that
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u/maxthunder77 Aug 17 '23
And I respect your original thought bc it’s definitely possible. We haven’t seen fakesaw man for like 20 chapters or so
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u/IronJackk Kobeni Panty Bandit Aug 17 '23
Where is this manga even going anymore? Does the author have a plan with this?
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u/BeginningOccasion8 Aug 17 '23
Literally why wouldn’t he?
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u/Mega-Avonco Aug 17 '23
Cuz there’s no clear idea of where this is going lol. There’s still lots of stuff in part 1 that still needs answering.
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u/Luis0224 Aug 17 '23
Cuz there’s no clear idea of where this is going
There's been around 40 chapters in part 2 so far (give or take a couple). In part 1, that was the start of the reze arc.
There's been various setups so far, we just haven't seen the payoff yet:
- yoru, fami plot
- fakesawman motive and identity
- who's pulling the strings with the chainsawman church and the safety commission now that makima is gone. Also why go this route
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u/Martin7431 Aug 17 '23
I’m hoping he does. Everything seems more coherent than the random direction early arcs went in part one, at least. Or maybe he’s winging it again. We’ll probably never know.
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u/twobirds_onestoned8 Aug 17 '23
People might call it rinse & repeat but Denji wanting to join the church might be a start for his character development. Yes, he is probably doing it for getting laid but his self-aware behavior & face in the last panels say otherwise. This might be a stretch but i think he'll befriend most of the hybrids in the church including Asa and try to save them from manipulation, could be a great way to further character development
I like the notion that Quanxi could be back given her short-lived yet impactful stint in part 1. It makes room for Kishibe's re-introduction and possibly another conflict brewing between public safety and the church
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Aug 17 '23
Was that actually denji who agreed, or could it be fakesaw man?
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u/Martin7431 Aug 17 '23
Could be fakesaw, but I’m pretty sure the small lines in panels inbetween swordman going through the door and spotting denji are meant to represent him moving really fuckin quickly. I’m pretty sure the teleport is a gag about how horny he is, I wouldn’t read into it too much.
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u/IamChipp Aug 17 '23
Idk, it's OoC for Denji to skip Molestina's w o0ing last chapter and then go straight to the church for only secs
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u/Chessmates23 Aug 18 '23
He totally forgot about Power's deal in part 1 before she brought it up again so I don't think it's ooc
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u/IamChipp Aug 18 '23
That proves my point, Power's deal was something he thought was half joking (in a twisted way), Denji got shocked back at the cinema, and that's the things that normally moves Denji (Makima in the boob chapter)
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u/Hypekyuu Aug 16 '23
Sword Man gives me part 1 Denji vibes with Denji being in Aki's position
Right up until the last page xD
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u/BobcatJosey Aug 16 '23
Am I the only one getting some Eren Yaeger vibes from Sword Man? “The weapons walk with the Chainsaw Man Church” is a fuckin hard line though, I dig it.
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u/KomoliRihyoh Aug 16 '23
Denji really needs friends like Aki and Power again, someone without an ulterior motive. However unlikely it is, I really hope Sword Man can fill that niche.
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u/juasjuasie Aug 16 '23
This is just out from my ass but i don't think fakesawman is also impersonating as denji.
I really think that Denji and Pochita are cooking something up and pochita is disguising as Denji.
Also i am dead set that the new girl is Death.
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u/Iron_Kingpin Aug 16 '23 edited Aug 16 '23
I cant belive I almost fell for it again. One moment you think he's changed, the next he's not. She does make kinda sense that Denji should be leader of the church as it is based on him. I wonder if Denji can sue them.
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u/Zbearbear Aug 16 '23
"There will be food!"
Denji: ".... "
"There will be...women."
Denii: "You son of a bitch. I'm in."
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u/Exotic_Side_6717 Aug 16 '23
Interesting. Did Denji literally blitz in there, or is that Fakesaw Man?
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u/FallenPotatoes Aug 16 '23 edited Aug 16 '23
Thematically Fami really fits as Denji's antagonist for Part 2 so its kinda weird how they haven't met yet.
Denji's arc in part 2 reminds me of this conversation in Supernatural (specifically the first half)
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u/Benn359817 Aug 16 '23
Bro making mad money from his chair business. Don’t see a reason why Denji would need anymore? /j
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u/KillerUnknowDV Aug 16 '23
I fucking died, at first I was like haha bro teleported, to wait ¿what if this guy is fakesawman?, To haha bro teleported in a few seconds.
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u/prometheusunending Aug 16 '23
"That's disrespectful to Senpai!" says the girl using him as a chair.
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u/Rdasher123 Aug 16 '23
To be fair, she’s at least paying for it
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u/SimasTheMoze Aug 16 '23
So did Denji just throw Fumiko off of him and on the ground when he "teleported"? That's kinda funny
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u/VolkiharVanHelsing Aug 16 '23
I find it cute that in-universe both Asa and Denji are considered hot
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u/megaxanx Aug 16 '23
when was denji considered hot?
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u/VolkiharVanHelsing Aug 16 '23
The girls in his class points out that the Sword Man (who is explicitly considered handsome) looks like Denji and Devil Hunter Club President crossover
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u/megaxanx Aug 16 '23
i figured thats what you meant but to me it isnt the same thing as him being considered hot.
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u/KungUnderBerget Aug 16 '23
Denji's legit ripped though and he's got a sharp yet distinctive face that really lights up on the rare occastions that he smiles. The thing keeping him back from getting with girls isn't his looks, but his general weirdness and absolute lack of social skills.
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u/Nachttalk Aug 17 '23
Doesn't he also smell weird. I swear I remember one character mentioning something like that
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u/KungUnderBerget Aug 17 '23
People, probably the Yakuza, told Denji he smells like wet dog before the start of the manga. This was back when he was living in a shack with just Pochita as companionship, so hardly the best of circumstances. Denji later asks Nayuta if he stinks of wet dog and she just says that wet dogs smell good, so not exactly denying it. So, yeah, Denji might also smell of wet dog, which would be another strike against him.
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u/ckrono Aug 16 '23
Denji during part 2 has always this blank expression. He seemed pretty happy at the end of part 1, it's like something big happened to him between the 2 parts. I don't know if boredom is enough to explain this radical change
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u/SHARKFRENZY00 Aug 16 '23
At the end of part 1 Denji was like: "I'm going to go to school, I'm going to be a good big brother, I'm going to get a girlfriend, and I'm going to be a superhero! It's all up from here baby!"
Then his PTSD, poor childhood, and single parent life summoned the Testicle devil.
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u/speedwagonfastboy Aug 16 '23
The end part 1 also showed denji wants to have "SEEEEEX" with tons of women
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u/ckrono Aug 16 '23
i don't know, the dude just seems empty inside compared to part 1. Maybe fakesaw isn't fake but his other half that he lost some way
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u/_Trzmiel_ Aug 16 '23
At the end of part 1 going to shool was his temporal distraction. But after maybe enyoing it for a while his tragic expiriences caught up to him. He does not have anyone in his current life like Power and Aki was for him. That's what i feel is mostly responsible.
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u/Immediate_Demand4841 Aug 16 '23
Somethings never change. I wish that denji gets a true friend tho he has been through enough already...
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u/KenmasStonerOlderBro Aug 16 '23
This chapter was hilarious and had some incredible development. Sword man is the homie so I’m glad denji’s joining the chainsaw church
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u/lnub0i Aug 16 '23
What’s with this manga and Chinese food? Himeno and Aki eat at a Chinese restaurant. Fami mentioned Chinese food a few chapters ago, and now Dennis says he could eat Chinese food everyday.
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u/Naissol Aug 16 '23
I think Fujimoto just likes Chinese food so he ends up using it as an example of good food alot.
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u/aster2560 Aug 16 '23
Remember to take a grain of salt towards what Sugo says to Denji on the roof about the church since he wanted to make the conversation between the two of them private which he couldn’t while Fumiko is there and when Fumiko revealed herself to be a member of Public Safety Sugo began to sweat
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u/Miml-Sama Aug 16 '23
Real talk- DID he teleport??
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u/Arthuar22 Aug 16 '23
I was waiting for someone to mention this, there is still a mistery of 2nd chainsawman, and its not like we didnt see pochita part going independent. Im starting to think there are 2 Denjis at the moment. And one is very silent while original is a distraction
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u/DYMck07 Aug 16 '23
I suppose he could have jumped off the roof and run up to do a cool pose :22158::22158:
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u/OyMyGod Aug 16 '23
I guess. It already happened once when he was invited by reze to the cafe. Might just be a gag
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u/scarletincubus Aug 16 '23
Sword Man saying “I’m truly free” scratches my 139 itch:22163::22163::22163:
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u/WhollyDisgusting Aug 16 '23
This is an excellent sort of groundbuikdijg chapter. Can't wait to see what's to come
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u/Jardaste Aug 16 '23
Y’all surprised Dennis can move that fast? I’m surprised he moved that slow for the bitches(that’s about to emotionally abuse him)
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u/CherryBlossomzzz Aug 16 '23
I wonder where sword man heard that denji was used as a tool all his life. Might seem a long shot but is this hinting at Reze since she learned this exact information 👀
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u/AidanWithAnA122 Aug 16 '23
That's actually a good point. Sword dude said that the weapons work for the csm church, so I bet Reze is there
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u/Secure_Pear_4530 Aug 16 '23
You know, now that I think about it maybe Fakesawman is the real Chainsaw Devil. Is Pochita even really the Chainsaw Devil? He can erase devils from existence, I don't know if that comes with being a chainsaw. Maybe Fakesaw turned up now because he hates that Denis and his dog committed a lil identity theft on him
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u/Hypekyuu Aug 16 '23
There is some speculation that, long ago, Pochita stole the power of Ahnillation from Death or another death
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u/WebOfNick Aug 16 '23
If he hated dennis why did he save him and asa from falling
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u/Secure_Pear_4530 Aug 16 '23
Idk man I'll ask him next time I see him
Jokes aside didn't think of that, just thought that fakesaw might be the actual chainsaw devil
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u/saifulfarhan Aug 16 '23
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT'S HE COOKIN?!?! Reze and Quanxi interacting with Fami, What's Fami planning bringing Dennis in? Dennis and Asa interacting again, How's Yoshida gonna feel about this? Can't wait for the next chapter.
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u/thang20031 Chainsaws are cool Aug 16 '23 edited Aug 16 '23
Does this mean Reze and Quanxi might return? And Katana Man?
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u/JeanneDAlter . Aug 15 '23
Sorry for the late thread, IRL emergency came up.
Next chapter release: 22nd
Head over here for the discussion thread of the last chapter