World's highest garbage dump (Mt. Everest)

[u/DenseTeacher]

[u/[deleted]]

How much does it costs to participate an expedition ? 50k ?

[u/Hello-there-7567 → u/[deleted]]

Some people in the comments said $75K. Idk if that’s true or not

[u/Delicious_Throat_377 → u/Hello-there-7567]

Price starts at $30k and goes upto 60k depending on the logistics and package chosen.

[u/blankblank → u/Delicious_Throat_377]

For $30k you go with a group, for $60k you get a personal sherpa, and for $90k you don’t have to climb the mountain

Edit: Full disclosure, this joke was adapted/stolen from Peter Sagal in an episode of Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me! a few months back.

[u/26oclock → u/blankblank]

I don‘t climb it for 0$ for you

[u/El_Peregrine → u/26oclock]

Best I can do is $100 / no climb.

[u/_Anti_Natalist → u/El_Peregrine]

I can do tree fiddy

[u/[deleted] → u/_Anti_Natalist]

DAMN LOCH NESS MONSTER!!

[u/Helechawagirl → u/[deleted]]

Don’t give the Loch Ness monster no tree fitty

[u/Quantainium → u/blankblank]

90k you just ride on the back of a sherpa?

[u/ExtSympathy → u/Quantainium]

They airdrop you at the top for a selfie and pick you right back.

[u/Quantainium → u/ExtSympathy]

How much for the piggy back ride to the top?

[u/Prozac_2000 → u/blankblank]

For $100k the mountain climbs for you

[u/lucy_valiant → u/Delicious_Throat_377]

And which side you climb. The Nepalese side is more expensive than the Chinese side.

[u/cute_polarbear → u/lucy_valiant]

Why the price difference?

[u/lucy_valiant → u/cute_polarbear]

Nepal’s economy is more dependent on these expeditions so they’re looking to get as much as they can from that industry, whereas China is willing to be the bargain bin and scoop all the people who can’t meet the Nepalese prices.

However, that’s only the most broad, zoomed-out perspective. Everest expedition costs vary wildly from team to team and climber to climber. Some climbers will sign up with an expedition and then contract a Sherpa independently from the team so they can have their own dedicated little mini-team whose only goal is to help that specific client, sometimes climbers only sign up with expeditions so that the permits and paperwork can be taken care of by people with the connections that an individual climber may not have and then once they get to base camp, that climber is basically solo. Some expeditions supply oxygen, some don’t, some expeditions include airfare and arrange for in-country transportation, some don’t.

So climbing Everest can be as cheap as 15k, or can be as expensive as 75k or more.

It’s basically impossible to estimate unless you’re talking about a specific excursion company.

[u/CoolTrainerAlex → u/cute_polarbear]

Chance to live differs too

[u/Iizsatan → u/CoolTrainerAlex]

So going up the Nepalese side is statistically safer?

[u/lucy_valiant → u/Iizsatan]

Yes. On the Nepalese side, the most dangerous part is the Khombu Icefall and you will be tackling that early in your climb, so before the altitude has really had a chance to mess with your judgment and perception.

That being said, most deaths statistically happen on the way down from the summit, just because you will be more tired than you ever have been at any other point in your life, and mistakes are easier to make and harder to adapt to.

[u/Fish_Fucker2136 → u/lucy_valiant]

Also if I remember correctly the huge line to take a selfie at top also killed a few people

[u/lucy_valiant → u/Fish_Fucker2136]

So yes, there is a line at the top, but that’s just a natural consequence of hundreds of people trying to reach a space that is about the size of two table tennis tops pushed together. Add in the fact that people are in these heavy-duty winter suits and they’re operating in an extremely low-oxygen environment so they’re tired and their dexterity is already hampered by the suit, and yeah, it can take a long time to get to the actual summit itself.

And the reason it kills is because the summit of Mt. Everest is what’s called The Death Zone, which starts at around 26,000 ft (8000 m) and is the point where you are burning more oxygen to keep yourself alive than you are able to replenish by breathing.

And the longer you stay in that environment, the bigger the deficient you’re running up, so it’s obviously incredibly dangerous.

A lot of excursion companies stagger their climb from Everest. You don’t just start at the bottom and climb up, you go from base camp to camp one, then back to base camp, then back to camp one, then up to camp two, and so on. What they’re doing with that, besides acclimatizing clients to the low-oxygen environment, is that they’re hoping to be at high camp when the conditions are optimal for a summit attempt. If you’re at base camp and the stars align, it would be insane to start from base and try to summit. So it’s not everyone going at once, it’s only whoever is already in an advanced position when the conditions look attemptable.

Additionally, excursions organize amongst themselves when they think it’s probable that the best windows for summiting will be. So, like, your excursion company will claim the window from May 15 to May 17, and the next excursion company will have May 17 to May 19, to again, try to limit the number of people who are going to be attempting the summit at any given time. However, there is no system of enforcement, it’s all just gentlemen’s agreements that people will abide by the schedule, so you have opportunistic climbers or excursion companies that won’t cooperate and endanger everyone by making summit attempts whenever they feel like it.

[u/CoolTrainerAlex → u/Iizsatan]

Afaik, there's not a real good answer there. Some years it's a harder climb then others and the paths are not always the same because weather conditions change it.

I was mostly just being facetious with my comment above, but generally when you're doing something you have to be very wealthy to do, it is a very bad idea to go the "cheap" route

[u/-Dalzik- → u/Delicious_Throat_377]

I'd like the package where I don't die please

[u/cheesywink → u/-Dalzik-]

I, too, will have the couch and takeout dinner package.

[u/Eticket9 → u/Delicious_Throat_377]

My buddy paid at least 50K over ten years ago.. never made it to the top, the amount of pharmaceuticals required to climb for optimum oxygen levels is nuts.. Viagra and all sorts of stuff..

[u/[deleted] → u/Eticket9]

Fuelling a raging hard-on in an oxygen depleted atmosphere while you require every ounce of energy your body can muster sounds like a ridiculous waste of red blood cells 🤔

[u/Technical-Plantain25 → u/[deleted]]

Username checks out.

[u/anulustrikesback → u/Delicious_Throat_377]

You forget this does not include your travel there and back, as well as I am peetty sure all kind of clothes and maybe some other equipment is not included. Big mountain, big business.

[u/Suitable_Nec → u/Hello-there-7567]

Take this with a grain of salt but I was watching an Everest documentary a few months back and they said $100k.

Not sure if that’s because they included travel and all gear and lodging and what not. I’m sure some of these other figures are the cost for just getting escorted up the mountain.

[u/pileofcrustycumsocs → u/Suitable_Nec]

It’s 100% including the total cost of gear and logistics of actually getting there. So are most of these figures.

[u/cis_regard → u/[deleted]]

Wait, you have to pay? You can’t just walk up it?

[u/BeachWalker9]

Its being cleaned up. "Last year the Nepali government cleared 11 tons of trash off of Everest; in addition to a deposit initiative launched in 2014, which refunds a climbers’ required $4,000 deposit when they return with their 18 pounds of generated garbage." https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/partner-content-bally-cleaning-up-everest

[u/IZ3820 → u/BeachWalker9]

11 tons of garbage at 18 pounds per person equals ~1222 people worth of trash cleaned up. 800 people climb everest a year.

[u/SeedFoundation → u/IZ3820]

Take into account that only a third or less may participate in the program and estimate that 10% of the people who climb leave trash behind. This is still like decades worth of work.

[u/Intrepid_Agent_9729 → u/SeedFoundation]

What amazes me that there are a lot of people not caring and just want to discuss prices...

[u/sommersj → u/Intrepid_Agent_9729]

Doesn't surprise me. We have become trash people. Leaving trash everywhere. From our lands to our seas to the moon and mars. No regard anymore for nature or leaving things as be.

Same people will get mad if they see a "foreigner" drop a snickers wrapper on the floor though

[u/Best_Poetry_5722 → u/BeachWalker9]

For those really curious about the clean-up effort on Mount Everest, I'd like to recommend the documentary Death Zone: Cleaning Mount Everest. Its a dramatic, self-documented story of 20 elite Nepali climbers who venture into the "Death Zone" of Mount Everest to restore their sacred mountain and the contaminated water source of 1.3 billion people. It's really terrifying to learn that some of this rubbish is left there because the hikers who brought it up never made it down.

[u/gullyterrier → u/Best_Poetry_5722]

Thanks for the idea. It's available on streaming. Tubi and Pluto.

[u/halfeclipsed → u/gullyterrier]

Available a few places *

*I'm in the US

[u/[deleted] → u/halfeclipsed]

Found a dailymotion link im sure the quality isnt as good but if you cant view it in specific countries its better then nothing.

[u/lushico → u/[deleted]]

Thanks, mate! Couldn’t find it on streaming in Japan and it sounds really interesting

[u/randalltown → u/gullyterrier]

What about on Corncob TV?

[u/fungusalungous → u/randalltown]

They're saying Death Zone's not a show!

It's just real-time footage of body after body busting out of shit tents and hitting glaciers

[u/1stinertiac → u/randalltown]

"there's too much fcking sht on me" - Mt. Everest

[u/Seafoamed → u/1stinertiac]

“I don’t want to be around anymore” -trash

[u/Random_Name_Whoa → u/Seafoamed]

“I’ll kill you” - Everest

[u/captrespect → u/randalltown]

Unfortunately Spectrum cable wants to drop that channel.

[u/psyki → u/randalltown]

They think I'm just some dumb hick

[u/CMDRBowie → u/psyki]

They told me that at a dinner!

[u/randalltown → u/psyki]

I’m not worried about it! I’m not worried about any of this!

[u/strongholdbk_78 → u/randalltown]

You sure about that?

[u/Fearless_Chipmunk_45 → u/randalltown]

New season comes out tomorrow 👍

[u/GrindinMolcajete → u/Best_Poetry_5722]

Yes! I often think of one scene where they pull out a gallon of maple syrup when cleaning up around 2nd base. Who in the world thinks to pack a huge ass gallon of maple syrup on one of the deadliest hikes??!

[u/JcakSnigelton → u/[deleted]]

Yep, that's Tom.

By the way, Jenny from Saskatoon says hi.

[u/trplOG → u/JcakSnigelton]

What a hoser

[u/Herself99900 → u/trplOG]

Take off.

[u/MRA1022 → u/[deleted]]

Nah I bet it was either Gordie or Darcy

[u/just-another-post → u/GrindinMolcajete]

Not condoning the litter, but maple syrup is a super common trail food, it’s not like they were up there making pancakes.

Maple syrup contains calcium, riboflavin, manganese, zinc, potassium and other electrolytes. These inherent components of maple syrup promote energy production, muscle recovery, and help prevent cramping.

[u/KeeperOfTheGood → u/just-another-post]

Yes but we all saw on Supertroopers how antsy those boys go when they get that maple syrup into them.

[u/Hob_O_Rarison → u/KeeperOfTheGood]

Ah, waiter. There you are. I will have the enchilada platter with two tacos and no guacamole

[u/Frikinik → u/Hob_O_Rarison]

Yeah, chief. I'll take a chinchilla!

[u/Equivalent_Science85 → u/just-another-post]

I'm guessing it's also very calorie dense.

[u/Primitive_Teabagger → u/Equivalent_Science85]

I packed mollases bars for my backpacking trip in the Tetons. Absolutely disgusting. Should have opted for a gallon of maple syrup instead.

[u/jkwrangl3r → u/Best_Poetry_5722]

Sir Patrick Stewart is the narrator!

[u/msm007 → u/Best_Poetry_5722]

One dead person's trash is another person's treasure?

[u/wisperino345 → u/msm007]

You loot the corpse of the unprepared adventurer, you find a bottle of frozen maple syrup.

[u/pork_fried_christ → u/Best_Poetry_5722]

A lot more of it comes from lazy entitled cows that just didn’t give a shit to bring it back down.

I’ve done it, twice. No oxygen. Once in winter.

[u/can-opener-in-a-can → u/pork_fried_christ]

Funny and a bit ironic that they have the energy and initiative to climb Mt. Everest, but can’t be bothered to clean up after themselves.

[u/[deleted] → u/pork_fried_christ]

Glad I am not that lazy to climb Mt. Everest.

[u/Tackleberry06 → u/[deleted]]

I say no to stairs most days…too dangerous.

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Mt. Upstairs

[u/EatPie_NotWAr → u/[deleted]]

I’m reading this from my living room floor because getting onto the couch after playing with my kid seemed like too much work.

[u/[deleted] → u/EatPie_NotWAr]

Mt. Immarest

[u/YouToot → u/[deleted]]

Regulatoooooooooooooooors

Mt. Up

[u/winowmak3r → u/pork_fried_christ]

I think so too. If you have the time and money to hike Mount Everest a 4,000 USD deposit is probably not going to stop you from just leaving your shit there and just walking away when you're done, literally.

[u/PM_ME_UR_HASHTABLES → u/BeachWalker9]

4k sounds like a joke knowing how much the expedition costs

[u/allaboutmojitos → u/PM_ME_UR_HASHTABLES]

But it will go a longer way to fund the clean up if it’s forfeited

[u/DigNitty → u/allaboutmojitos]

That's true.

I too was annoyed at this tactic. Many of the climbers are rich and wouldn't care about 4k. At least the money can be used to further the cause.

[u/TheNumber42Rocks → u/DigNitty]

Might be a little macabre, but they should also have a deposit in case someone dies on the trek and their body has to be retrieved. I’m sure retrieving those would be a lot harder and more expensive than $4K.

[u/FictionalTrebek → u/TheNumber42Rocks]

Most of the people that die on Everest simply remain on Everest. There is, to my knowledge, not a lot of retrieving of bodies that goes on. Or at least that's not the norm for when a person doesn't make it off the mountain

[u/PossumCock → u/FictionalTrebek]

It takes a lot, but bodies have been recovered from Everest. I know I've seen where the infamous "Green Boots" who's body was used as a marker because of their bright boots was finally retrieved after many years

[u/FictionalTrebek → u/PossumCock]

Oh I know it happens on occasion. There was a whole Hulu documentary recently about this British (I think) guy who went to Everest to retrieve his brother's body after it had been on the mountain for years and years.

What I was trying to convey with my comment was that I thought that typically people's bodies were simply left on Everest if they perished while up there - not that it was impossible for them to be retrieved or that that doesn't ever happen.

[u/beautifulgirl789 → u/FictionalTrebek]

The corpses become waypoints. Old "greenboots" is the most famous one I think.

[u/eneumeyer1010 → u/allaboutmojitos]

Step 1. Just sign up to clean the very top part

Step 2. Climb it for free

Step 3. ???

Step 4. Profit

[u/ZealousidealThanks51 → u/eneumeyer1010]

Step 3. Die

[u/ColonelCrackle → u/PM_ME_UR_HASHTABLES]

25 cents sounds like a joke compared to my grocery shopping bill, but I always return my cart at Aldi.

(Bad example. I always return my cart no matter where I shop).

[u/FizixMan → u/ColonelCrackle]

https://i.redd.it/m8651wcilcy41.jpg

[u/YouToot → u/FizixMan]

I like this because I always return my cart. I even push together all the other carts that are out of place.

The rest of my life is a god damned mess but if we only consider the carts, I'm fucking awesome.

[u/sweet_home_Valyria → u/YouToot]

I have this same problem. If only I could file the rest of my life in the cart return category, I'd be winning.

[u/Ice_Swallow4u → u/FizixMan]

Love that post.

[u/bplboston17 → u/PM_ME_UR_HASHTABLES]

How much does it cost?

[u/helpful__explorer → u/bplboston17]

Average is apparently 58k.

[u/SluttyGandhi → u/PM_ME_UR_HASHTABLES]

4K is 4K, baby! Rich people can be stingier than one might expect.

[u/Past_Search7241 → u/SluttyGandhi]

You don't tend to get rich by being a spendthrift wastrel.

That's how you get poor.

[u/SluttyGandhi → u/BeachWalker9]

which refunds a climbers’ required $4,000 deposit when they return with their 18 pounds of generated garbage.

Hella clever!

Living in an urban area that is known for being plagued with trash issues, I have long hoped that someone would devise a financial incentive for people to pick up trash for profit.

[u/HibachiFlamethrower → u/BeachWalker9]

Thank god. I want my title back as highest garbage dump but I can’t afford more weed.

[u/load_more_comets → u/BeachWalker9]

At this point the Nepalese government should just build a lodge at that base camp and prohibit the 'climbers' from bringing tents and shit. Charge them like $10,000 a night. Only rich assholes go up there anyways.

[u/OkCutIt → u/load_more_comets]

This isn't base camp. I believe it's camp 3.

[u/Frankeh1 → u/OkCutIt]

Make every climber carry up a portion of building materials so a lodge can be created at these points

[u/Ciff_ → u/BeachWalker9]

How do they verify the garbage comes from the summit / hike

[u/Gravejuice2022 → u/Ciff_]

there is a number of check point in trekking routes to keep track how many hikers went or came back.

[u/TimmyMojo → u/Gravejuice2022]

... the hikers are the garbage?

[u/LogicalMeerkat → u/TimmyMojo]

They mostly carry the same kit, a lot of it is provided for you by the various companies running trips up. You know what most people had when they left, you can account for it when they return.

[u/[deleted] → u/TimmyMojo]

Yep.

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[u/Evantaur → u/[deleted]]

You mean Corpsicles?

[u/Dismal-Grapefruit966 → u/Evantaur]

Beautiful

[u/FallDelta → u/Evantaur]

r/CursedComments

[u/Desperate_Function87 → u/[deleted]]

take a left at sleeping beauty

[u/[deleted] → u/Desperate_Function87]

Is she still there? I thought I read an article about groups going out to retrieve or at least move the bodies away from the trails. Like green boots was a good example.

[u/Desperate_Function87 → u/[deleted]]

Couldn't tell you. Green boots and sleeping beauty were mentioned on a video I recently watched

[u/Lazerhawk_x → u/[deleted]]

I heard there was a surge in deaths on Everest recently too, only getting worse.

[u/firstcoastyakker]

What happened to take nothing but pictures and leave nothing but footprints...

[u/lemonsweetsrevenge → u/firstcoastyakker]

Footprints? That’s not very dedicated; some people leave their whole body.

[u/Suojelusperkele → u/lemonsweetsrevenge]

They can't charge you at the base camp for throwing trash if you never come back from the mountain.

Big brain

[u/Antonioooooo0 → u/Suojelusperkele]

We don't need money where we're going!

[u/MyLadyBits → u/firstcoastyakker]

Rich people paying poor people to drag them up a mountain so they can take pictures.

[u/[deleted] → u/MyLadyBits]

Facts.

[u/existentialzebra → u/MyLadyBits]

Yup, entitled rich people. They’re not responsible for their actions.

[u/KoolWitaK → u/existentialzebra]

It's not my fault, it's the affluenza!

^/s

[u/MalcolmSolo → u/firstcoastyakker]

That’s for the casuals, not Everest. Everest has a nasty habit of killing lots of people, and even simple tasks are incredibly difficult at altitude. I don’t know which camp this is, but it’s not Base Camp, which means it’s at least 21,000 feet altitude. You can even hear him breathing hard just standing there. Until recently it’s just been accepted that most of what goes up beyond Base Camp, stays up, to include dead bodies and empty O2 bottles by the thousands. Every year or two a big storm or avalanche (sometimes both) will come along and push/blow most of the trash down into one of the many massive crevasses never to be seen again. It’s not eco friendly, but until recently no one cared and nothing on Everest is typical.

[u/orthopod → u/MalcolmSolo]

Roughly 5 people for each year trying to summit, out of 800 .

This year it's 10+ already. Going to be a record year!

[u/MalcolmSolo → u/orthopod]

out of 800.

That’s crazy. I know 20 years ago it was around 100 climbers per year and it cost well over $100k. Now it’s down to less than $60k, that’s why there’s to many.

[u/Ghostblade913 → u/orthopod]

Wikipedia says that the most recent years when nobody died climbing Everest were 1977, where only 2 people went to the summit, and 2020, where nobody was even allowed to climb thanks to Covid

[u/sirletssdance2 → u/Ghostblade913]

Wouldn’t want to risk getting Covid while climbing the largest mountain in the world

[u/TetsuoS2 → u/sirletssdance2]

Getting covid from base camp and showing symptoms by 20kft would be a death sentence that's for sure.

[u/Professional_Emu3041 → u/TetsuoS2]

That’s probably happened at this point. That is quite the nightmare scenario. It’s like the worst possible disease to have at that altitude, when you’re already prone to pulmonary edema if you’re HEALTHY.

[u/Mundane-Mechanic-547 → u/firstcoastyakker]

It's a bit hard to bring your stuff back if you die.

[u/fatogato → u/firstcoastyakker]

Can’t pack it out if you never make it out ☠️

[u/bacon_farts_420 → u/firstcoastyakker]

Sometimes it’s a matter of life and death. Weather can change drastically, injury at the top, etc etc. not saying that’s always the case, but Everest isn’t and “easy” climb even with the added help from sherpas.

[u/Candid_Bullfrog6274 → u/firstcoastyakker]

They disappeared along with spend nothing but time.

[u/[deleted]]

The place is littered with actual human corpses as well, some of whom were still living as other climbers passed them by.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/mount-everest-bodies

[u/DL1943 → u/[deleted]]

weird everest climbing shit is a legit rabithole

[u/Erekai → u/DL1943]

I first saw this linked article some 8+ years ago and, can confirm, it is a major rabbit hole. I think I spent nearly 6 hours just reading and watching videos about bodies on Everest before I finally snapped out of it. It was fascinating but very time consuming, haha.

[u/[deleted] → u/Erekai]

thanks for your research

[u/Lotus_Blossom_ → u/Erekai]

I fell down that hole once, too. When I snapped out of it, I remember being a little dazed about how that even happened, since I don't like hiking, mountains, snow, garbage, people, or frozen corpses. And yet...

Mt Everest has got to be one of the slipperiest rabbit holes known to man.

[u/PotentiallyExplosive → u/DL1943]

god damn it i just fell into it

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Thank you, that is both fascinating and horrible.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Seriously. If I ever have $35-50k to blow on a vacation, it's not going to be to some cold and rocky place where the air is too thin to breather.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Agreed, I’d be renting a cabin with a hot tub out in the mountains here in Canada and spending a week or two in a cloud of cannabis with a few of my closest friends.

Forget adding my corpse to the pile of once highly motivated individuals.

[u/exileosi_ → u/[deleted]]

Hell for that much money you could probably do that for like six months.

[u/Bert_1990 → u/[deleted]]

Right? I'm one of those guys who loves challenges that's other people think is slightly crazy but after reading Into Thin Air, climbing Everest sounded like literal hell on earth. I'll stick with 14ers 🤣🤣

[u/shalafi71 → u/Bert_1990]

Easily the wildest non-fiction book I've ever read. These people are damned near walking in space. I had a mildly hard time breathing just reading that madness.

[u/DrAniB20 → u/[deleted]]

It’s a very sad reality that while they may have been alive at that moment and in the process of dying, the chances of them being saved if someone stopped and managed to help them down, is extremely slim. By the time they needed that level of help, it’s too late. The conditions are too brutal, the oxygen too thin, and the temperature too cold to save them.

It’s called the death zone for a reason, and if those passing don’t get out with the resources they do have to get THEMSELVES out in the time they need to, then they will be another body added to the mountain. It’s not about ruining a vacation or bragging rights, it’s about making it past a literal graveyard that is actively collecting bodies with one misstep.

[u/rookie1609x]

Back in my post secondary days, I had a super rich friend who climbed up one of the basecamps with his father. Neither of them had any climbing experience whatsoever. I imagine most of the climbers today are just rich tourists like my friend. A lot of them are wasteful people in general. This doesn't change when in nature. Side note: my friend died in his sleep a few weeks after his climb, as his body didn't acclimate properly to the change in elevation and it caused his lungs to fill up with fluid and drown. Crazy stuff.

[u/Samzorr69 → u/rookie1609x]

You don't need to be rich to climb to basecamp, thousands of backpackers do it every year. I'm sorry to hear about your friend

[u/mzmammy → u/Samzorr69]

Yeah my mom and I did it in 2011. It’s wayyyy cheaper than people trying to climb.

Also Nepal is pretty polluted and trashed every where we went and base camp was no different.

[u/Samzorr69 → u/mzmammy]

I didn't really experience all the pollution (we did the Annapurna Circuit), but maybe I blocked it from memory. Also I came from India, which was way more polluted.

[u/AmmitEternal → u/rookie1609x]

That isn’t a side note at all. How is his father doing?

[u/RoyalRootersRallyCry]

If it can be fucked up people *will* fuck it up.

[u/shakesula9 → u/RoyalRootersRallyCry]

Truer words have probably never been spoken maybe ever

[u/Sexbomomb]

I’d be the dude with the Amazon Basics tent

[u/DammitDad420 → u/Sexbomomb]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ we bought this for our kids to climb Everest, and it's so cute we got ourselves one too!

[u/lesterburnhamm66]

Depressing and disgusting.

[u/flannelmaster9]

From my understanding you need to pay X amount to climb the mountain. You are to pay X amount to haul your trash and poop down. Or you can pay a fine. The fine is basically free if you have the money to climb everest your not worried about a petty fine

[u/pigsgetfathogsdie]

Waste removal logistics must be challenging…

But, this is beyond disgusting.

This is disrespectful.

Likely, 99% of the people that pay to climb aren’t locals.

Clean your 💩…

[u/washingtonandmead → u/pigsgetfathogsdie]

Yeah, what happened to that outdoorsy/mountaineering ‘leave no trace.’ Respect your surroundings

[u/BirdieshooterinMX → u/washingtonandmead]

I mean, have you seen people?

[u/Suitable_Nec → u/washingtonandmead]

Outdoorsy and mountaineering used to be a poor persons hobby but with all the new tech it has become a rich person hobby.

Probably very few of these people actually enjoy or care about the nature. They just need something to talk about at corporate dinners so their lives seem interesting.

[u/MuleRobber → u/pigsgetfathogsdie]

The sad part is, most of the trash left behind isn’t challenging to remove. It’s just that people don’t want to pack it out.

A significant amount of the “climbers” on Everest leave their entire base camp behind because they are simply lazy clout chasers who have money to waste and don’t care about the locals or the environment.

[u/Rise-O-Matic → u/MuleRobber]

Everyone involved in the Everest expeditions, from climbers to Sherpas to tour organizers, should share in the accountability for the trash left behind. It's not just about profiting from the experience but also about preserving the environment for future generations. Including a fee for cleanup as part of the climbing package could be a starting point.

[u/DragonsClaw2334 → u/pigsgetfathogsdie]

If you can carry it in, you can carry it out.

Mostly what you would be leaving with would weigh less since you consumed the food stuffs. So in theory you should be easier to pack out than in.

[u/purrcthrowa → u/pigsgetfathogsdie]

And presumably there are also a few tons of literal crap (frozen) as well.

[u/WaubesaWarriors]

Rich assholes

[u/chochinator]

Send em to k2

[u/thatloudfrost → u/chochinator]

Everest is a walk in the park compared to the volatility of K2.. ive never done either only watched documentaries and first hand accounts of climbers but man K2 seems like its actively trying to kill you everyday..

[u/hydrogenbound → u/thatloudfrost]

Can you recommend any K2 documentaries?

[u/thatloudfrost → u/hydrogenbound]

K2: Fatal altitude on youtube was a very good one tells the story of an ice cliff i believe? That fell and killed 12 climbers from somebody who was there and saw it happen first hand

[u/hydrogenbound → u/thatloudfrost]

Wow that was really powerful and well done, thank you.

[u/goodbehaviorsam → u/thatloudfrost]

K2 grows taller from human sacrifice.

It hungers.

[u/MoneyPresentation610]

You have the privilege of climbing the highest mountain on earth, and that’s how you treat it? That’s reprehensible.

[u/[deleted] → u/MoneyPresentation610]

I imagine most of the people who attempt Everest haven’t ever been plussed to clean up their own shit. This is inexcusable.

[u/porterramses]

Death count for this climbing season is north of 20....

[u/[deleted] → u/porterramses]

The real explorers are knee deep in debt. What’s left are rich folk pretending to be brave while the locals jump their gear up and down off camera.

[u/Historical0racle]

Wealthy people don't give a shit. Have we not learned this?

[u/Salumanu]

Not surprising considering anybody with enough money can go there and get lifetime achievement on Instagram.

People climbing used to be passionate and respectful. Now they do it for clout.

[u/buddhistbulgyo → u/Salumanu]

They always did it for ego and clout

[u/NaClslug → u/buddhistbulgyo]

It was difficult before there were three Sherpas to every climber. They basically haul rich people up, not real mountaineers.

[u/Ok-Comfortable313 → u/Salumanu]

Ego

[u/FeedingCoxeysArmy]

Damn, I guess the normal rules of backpacking (leave no trace) doesn’t applied to them?! I can’t imagine climbing up Everest, seeing that mess, and then adding to it.

[u/[deleted] → u/FeedingCoxeysArmy]

Can you imagine climbing everest and dying in the process?

It's hard to compel dead people to leave no trace

[u/Quackcook]

They should weigh you going in and going out and if they don’t match, make you take your ass back up the hill and collect garbage.

[u/StuartGotz → u/Quackcook]

They do now. And there's a $4000 deposit.

[u/lucy_valiant → u/Quackcook]

They charge a fee for expeditions who don’t bring their trash back, but a lot of expedition companies just figure that into the cost of operation. You’re already paying for the permits, it’s just a write-off for the people who can afford this.

[u/fracturedtoe]

Humans are parasites.

[u/MT_Flesch]

we are the filthiest monkeys on this rock

[u/Distinct-Quantity-35]

Ahhhhhh humans <3 aren’t we just amazing creatures

[u/Desperate_Function87]

what if a condition of the climb was to bring down one or two items left up there. I don't know what percentage of people leave shit so would that even clear it up eventually?

[u/Delicious_Throat_377 → u/Desperate_Function87]

That is the condition by the way. Or you pay 4k fine. People just chose to pay the fine because they're exhausted during the climb down. The fine should be set at much higher.

[u/Desperate_Function87 → u/Delicious_Throat_377]

yeah it's all relative isn't it. A fine's primary function is to deter a behaviour. People who have the ability to climb everest are most likely already wealthy so they'll simply factor that into the climb cost. Just like when you see nice cars parked on double yellows cos it doesn't matter to them

[u/zoomiepaws]

What is the count so far this year? I think 13 now they didn't find the Hungarian man that insisted on no Oxygen or Sherpa. Gone now and he was an extremely experienced climber. Many pay a large amount to companies but have no or little experience. I think to get a ticket you must show papers of experience. Will that cut nack on deaths?

[u/[deleted] → u/zoomiepaws]

Good way to fake your death.

[u/sbrown23c → u/zoomiepaws]

Papers? What papers exactly?

[u/MRicho]

Utterly disgusting. We insist that when we visit national parks, we leave only footprints and take only photo. I now refuse to celebrate any nonce that climbs this mountain. Maybe now the 'challenge' is to remove this filth. And boycot all sponsors. The excuse of it is too dangerous to remove, should mean 'then you can't climb'.