r/MurderedByWords May 30 '23

Huh, how strange.

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u/SuicidalTurnip May 30 '23

How is it that LGBT folks expressing themselves freely is somehow walking all over the freedoms the military supposedly fought for?

Surely freedom of expression is a good thing, right?

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u/zarfle2 May 30 '23

No no. Somehow LGBTQ+ people just living their lives makes these regressive shitheads think that their pathetic lives are even more diminished.

It always has to be a null game - someone has to lose so that they (walking hard-ons for authoritarianism) can win. Fuckers like this love the idea of the military and its nod to authority and power and potential for cruelty.

Freedom of expression is only available to the in crowd and they regard themselves as "in".

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u/blaktronium May 30 '23

Standing armies are (and mostly always have been) a socialist jobs program.

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u/TooLazyToBeClever May 30 '23

Shit. I never thought about it but you're right. Gonna use this now lol.

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u/slcrook May 30 '23

IIRC, the Founders didn't support the idea of a standing army (see Franklin's quote on Standing Army = Erect Penis.)

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution was written with this entirely in mind, hence the notion of a "Well-regulated Militia" as a means of national defense in the place of a permanent force.

So, how's all that working out for you guys down there?

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u/blaktronium May 30 '23

I'm Canadian, we have more of a gently sleeping army than a standing one

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u/slcrook May 30 '23

I'm a Canadian Army vet. Our motto could well be: "When is doubt, kip out." (When you don't know what to do, try to get a little sleep.)

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u/psiamnotdrunk May 30 '23

It is VERY Canadian of you to explain the meaning, thank you

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u/editt21_ May 30 '23

To dream of a place where you neighbors don't want to gun you down in the street for driving to the groceries. What a utopia that must be.

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u/Onii-Chan_Itaii May 30 '23

Unless you happen to be an electrician and teaching assistant trying to deal with mould growth in your house :(

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u/AreYouTrying2BeFunny May 30 '23

Do you want to talk about it? Sounds like some shit is brewing...literally and figuratively.

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u/BastardofMelbourne May 31 '23

My grandfather was in the Australian army as a tank engineer. His motto was "she'll be right."

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u/luvadergolder May 30 '23

To be fair, that did keep us out of the Bush war (Iraq I believe)

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u/NeuroCavalry May 30 '23

Oh no no no, you dont get to just throw that Franklin quote reference and dissappear without providing the quote and context. Get back here.

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u/slcrook May 30 '23

First, I mistakenly attributed the quote to Dr. Franklin, but was elsewhere corrected that it was, in fact Elbridge Gerry during the Constitutional Convention (1787) who made the analogy of a standing army being akin to an erect penis as "An excellent assurance of domestic tranquility, but a dangerous temptation to foreign adventure." (cited from Chernow, Ron "Alexander Hamilton" 2004)

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u/AreYouTrying2BeFunny May 30 '23

I'm LOVING this tangent... and a bonus sidebar lesson in history. Well done!!!

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u/Elder_sender May 30 '23

Franklin's quote on Standing Army = Erect Penis.

FWIW, on page 456 of Walter Isaacson's book, Benjamin Franklin, he attributes the statement to Elbridge Gerry.

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u/slcrook May 30 '23

Thank you for the correction.

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u/Elder_sender May 30 '23

Great quote anyway! Not only catchy, but really does drive a point home.

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u/Warhawk137 May 30 '23

Eh, say what you want about how much we spend, but the realities of modern warfare require at least some full-time professionals. We're not in the days that a farmer can just saunter down the road from his farm with his boots and musket and be combat ready.

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u/QualityBurnerAccount May 30 '23

Yeah, that's why the most expensive professional military in the world did so well in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afganistan! Wars against decentralized militant groups made of local residents that the US clearly defeated in each case... oh wait.

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u/Warhawk137 May 30 '23

The US failed there because of unclear objectives and ineffective development of local governance. None of those were failures of combat capability. It's absurd to suggest that the failures of policy makers prove that a less trained, less well equipped military must be better than a better trained and better equipped one.

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u/QualityBurnerAccount May 30 '23

Never said a less equipped/trained/whatever army is inherently better, stop strawmanning. All I did was point out that the better organized and over-funded military doesn't inherently beat out the decentralized militias you're disparaging. Wars are complicated and combat capability is only a fraction of the equation.

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u/AreYouTrying2BeFunny May 30 '23

Plus, you forgot to mention people who have nothing to lose, literally, and will stand in the rain of fire, or blow themselves up, because they have nothing to lose anymore.

Wars ARE complicated. The hate they perpetuate of "us against them" rhetoric is despicable.

Wars suck for the vast majority of us. And most of the wars boil down to a chessboard play by some elite douche fucks trying to be strategic and flexing BDE. So many government contractors get the funding in the process, and in turn, support the leaders who started it. Meanwhile, all of them are making A LOT of fucking money. Meanwhile they're not considering human lives lost, affected, and impacted in the process.

It's just business, right? Fuck that.

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u/AreYouTrying2BeFunny May 30 '23

To be clear, I was agreeing with you

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u/playmaker1209 May 30 '23

Don’t bother with the comments referring to Afghanistan and Vietnam in this argument. Obviously those campaigns’ objectives were just downright messy, but it’s also obvious are military’s power, training, soldiers/specops/combat experience, tech, weaponry, vehicles/ships, intel, etc etc are all the best in the world. If there’s something that’s not the best, it’s still about almost equal. It’s funny how Russia and China basically gave up building their own stuff like aircraft and just steals the U.S. designs.

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u/DPSOnly May 30 '23

They see people getting right as a diminishment of their right to oppress.

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u/Downtown_Leek_1631 May 30 '23

They love that (mostly) poor people get tortured until they trauma bond and then sent to kill a bunch of people. After that, they don't care. If they did, they'd do something to solve systemic problems that cause mental illness, homelessness, and suicide.

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u/A-purple-bird May 30 '23

I know, me just living is shitting on the people who fought for the freedom for me to live /j

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u/geoffbowman May 30 '23

I always wonder who these people think they'll be shooting at if someone "comes for their guns".

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u/nobodyyoullcarefor May 30 '23

This is the funny part. Anytime I've talked to an actual vet about this, they always say, 'I fought for the first amendment' or something similar.

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u/BrookeBaranoff May 30 '23

That’s what my grandpa said about his service, his brother’s service, and his son’s service. Meanwhile my goper coworker wants to be addressed by her husband’s rank and thinks kids today should be forced to serve.

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u/JakeDC May 30 '23

Presumably only the male kids should be forced to serve, right?

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u/BrookeBaranoff May 30 '23

I told her they let women in now but for some reason yeah…

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u/JakeDC May 30 '23

Shocker!

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u/430Richard May 30 '23

“Male”. Heh.

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u/SailingSpark May 30 '23

it's because the far right perceives the world as a "zero sum game". In order for one group to thrive, another must wither. They literally cannot wrap their brains around the idea that "a rising tide raises all boats" but think that for one to float, another must sink.

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u/SLRWard May 30 '23

The far right also ONLY want the military to die for them. If they come back wounded and/or needing help, well fuck them. They didn't die like they were supposed to, so why should we spend a dime supporting them?

Source: Republicans constantly voting against vet care programs.

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u/RogerClyneIsAGod2 May 30 '23

Every time I see that Wounded Warrior commercial I think that I'm glad it exists but how fucked up that it has to exist at all.

If you get your legs blown off by an IED in service you shouldn't have to rely on private donations to help, you should get a free ride from the VA period.

Granted, we aren't drafted any more, but it's pretty fucked up that there's people out there that made that decision & their own representation & govt. won't cover the majority of their medical needs.

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u/SuicidalTurnip May 30 '23

Ironically they think of money in the exact opposite way.

Billionaires "create" wealth rather than the reality of them extracting it from the lower classes.

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u/damunzie May 30 '23

The real murder here should have been: "Then why are you now walking over those freedoms and forgetting them?"

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u/Liet-Kinda May 30 '23

Nobody asked me, but the Stonewall Riots involved a lot more fighting for my goddamn freedoms than anything the military has done since 1945 or so.

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u/Bearence May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23

Stonewall Revolt. A riot is a spontaneous burst of mob violence that may or may not have a purpose. People riot if their sports team wins. they also riot if their sports team loses. What happened at Stonewall was not akin to one's sports team winning or losing.

A revolt, on the other hand, is a spontaneous burst of resistance against oppression or injustice. What happened at Stonewall was a reaction to injustice which was long overdue. It was a revolt, not a riot.

ETA: corrected a typo

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u/Mateorabi May 30 '23

“People riot if their sports team wins. they also riot if their sports team loses.”

Ah, a Maryland fan I see.

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u/Bearence May 30 '23

My favourite part of the College Park riot from the early 2000s was the girl they interviewed who said, "We're just carrying on the tradition of our parents who marched in the 60s."

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u/rorank May 30 '23

But, but the terrorists!!!

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u/KeyanReid May 30 '23

Our military serves corporate interests, not those of our people.

I mean, we’re all thankful for (checks notes) fighting in WW2 but since then, and since that was 80 years ago now, there really isn’t much the average Joe has to thank them for.

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u/ElolvastamEzt May 30 '23

Those soldiers died protecting the American democratic freedom of the people in the lower picture.

Those LGBTQ+ people cherish and utilize those rights defended by the people in the upper pic, and put themselves at significant risk of abuse, assault, and death, to advance American society's power by being the 1st Amendment tide that lifts all boats.

They're both the same picture.

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u/Tr3sp4ss3r May 30 '23

I joined a long time ago, when it was dangerous to come out as gay. My best friend came out and I was the only person in his life who accepted it and did not ostracism him including family. We made a lot progress, and it really pisses me off that if these f$ckers get what they want, our 2 trillion $/year military will be "defending" fascism. Always somewhere else on the globe, of course.

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u/SiMatt May 30 '23

If anything, this just shows the authoritarian mindset of the right. They have to wait for daddy government to give them the recognition and validation they think they deserve. The LGBT+ movement went out and validated themselves for years and years without it being formally recognised until relatively recently.

If this guy cares about veterans so much, there’s nothing to stop him from organising events or parades on every day of the year if he wanted to.

He won’t of course, because this is pretty much the definition of “virtue signalling”.

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u/RetroFox967 May 30 '23

If anything, this just shows the authoritarian mindset of the right. They have to wait for daddy government to give them the recognition and validation they think they deserve."

Yep - right wing ideology is obsessed with the idea of social hierarchy. Everyone who makes the "right choices" in life (being rich, white, cis male) shoots straight to the top, whilst those that make the "incorrect choices" (poor, homeless, LGBTQ, ethnic minority) are to be looked down upon.

They need daddy government (ie, those higher up the hierarchy) to tell them what good boys and girls they're being, because in their mind, that's where validation comes from - other, better, people. In their eyes, conforming to these people, rather than individualism, should be rewarded.

Its why they're all so fucking obsessed with worshiping/emulating Trump, or Musk, or Tate - because they made the "right choices" and maybe, just maybe, if they make the same choices they'll be just like daddy Trump one day - top of the pyramid.

Its why they hate minorities and LGBTQ people so much - because in their eyes, they're on the lower end of society - but they "don't know their place". Just like they want to emulate Trump because he's higher up, they think minorities and LGBTQ should be trying to emulate them in order to get validation that way.

But we don't, so we deserve to be punished, i guess.

So yeah, you're right. its not about him respecting soldiers, its about him disrespecting LGBTQ people for their supposed crime of not trying to be like their superiors (ie - him).

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u/Zegram_Ghart May 30 '23

I mean, daddy government is just another way of saying “the patriarchy”, so yeh- they have a vested interest in nothing changing, because the more things change the more likely it is that the people in charge don’t look and act like them

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u/LucianCanad May 30 '23

I pretty much agree with everything you said, except the "rather than individualism" bit. The US capitalist mentality is profoundly individualistic, hence the obsession of some people with gatekeeping rights.

I'd suggest you use "individuality" instead, because that does imply critical thinking and not just swallowing up what your "betters" tell you.

"Individuality can only flourish when individualism dies."

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u/[deleted] May 30 '23

It's like with March 8th. I'm happy to see much less of dudes going into comment sections on March 8th and ask when men have their international day (Google trends show they still Google it in droves). Women in my group of friends are the best to mark the day and month.

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u/PruneBeneficial44 May 30 '23

Yep, that one always makes me roll my eyes.

If they actually gave a shit about men's day, men would know the date. They wouldn't need to ask. But they don't. The only time they care about men's day is when they think they can pretend to be a victim and claim women have their own 'special day' and they don't.

It's always funny too that the guys ask women to look it up for them rather than do it themselves... oh how times haven't changed...

If a guy said, "I'm going to have an honest chat to my guy friends on men's day about our issues and mental health", I would respect the hell out of him. But nope. Never heard one say anything like this. They only care on women's day.

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u/Aki2403 May 30 '23

November 19th iirc? right?

Honestly, I couldn't really care much, I don't pay much attention to any of these "days"

My first priority is keeping me & mine safe, (family friends, and where possible co-workers), if I see someone being an ass I'll call them on it, but with how crazy the world has got, it's a risk, I've had a knife pulled on me more than once in the course of just doing my job. People are fucking nuts.

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u/spoobles May 30 '23

Let's just face the fact...International Men's "Day" starts Jan. 1 and the celebration ends on midnight Dec 31. Every single year. Across the globe.

Signed -Your local relatively privileged, white, American guy.

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u/Aki2403 May 30 '23

Well yes, but when you get a dick head spouting about how "WiMeN get an international WyMoN day, why don't WE have one?" it's amazing how quickly it shuts them up when you tell them that not only is there one but when it is.

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u/LegacyofLegend May 30 '23

Virtue signaling?

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u/EstorialBeef May 30 '23

Acting like you care about something to look good/further a cause, when in reality you don't actually care that much. He's Acting like he cares about vets and puts down lgbt+ pride, when he not only does nothing for vet appreciation month, he didn't even know it existed.

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u/Hats_back May 30 '23

Yes. Virtue signaling.

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u/Mete11uscimber May 30 '23

The right just can't seem to leave shit alone. How does LGBTQ+ "get" a month? What they mean is, they saw or heard 1 or 2 things promoting pride and decided to be upset. They don't know why they're upset from a logical perspective because they don't take the time to break things down - They just react to an emotion that's usually founded in fallacy.

Everybody wants to have their own agency, but I've noticed that conservatives want to have control over that which does not conform with their own ideals, this extending their agency beyond themselves. I suspect this obsession with control tends to explain why they really like using big machines and guns. I'm not saying I don't enjoy big machines or guns, but where I am it's a way of life for conservatives. Obsessed with extending their control in this world, I'm telling ya.

I believe this also leads to conservatives having less empathy in general because if they empathized with someone who's not just like them, they'd essentially be going against their core of controlling themselves and others - Bending to someone who isn't like them means that those outside forces that they don't understand or agree with are controlling them, and they can't have that. Plus they'd have to actually be humble in real life for a moment, which they don't need to do because they already pray to white baby Jesus every Sunday.

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u/_Glass-_-House_ May 30 '23

What about the members of the military who do drag? Or whom are part of the lgbtq+? Almost like the bigoted idiots don't realise they can't use the military to justify the exclusion of a marginalised group when there are active members of the military whom are part of that group or do they just beleive all military groups are white heteronormative cisgendered racist cunts like they are? Almost like they don't care to actually get to know the members of the military. Furthermore isn't the military fighting to protect freedoms of all Americans not just the ones the right support hmm funny how you can't use the military as a symbol when that symbol is inclusive freedom. Ironically same thing the bible teaches yet not acoording to the right. Hypocrisy breeds hate.

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u/Whiskey-Jesus May 30 '23

There are pictures from WWII when American soliders are performing a drag show and are attacked during it, so they're in fighting positions all cross dressed.

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u/_Glass-_-House_ May 30 '23

Haha lovely bit of history thanks for sharing. You don't fuck with a man in a dress as the saying goes.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '23

Pretty sure those were British servicemen, but otherwise yes.

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u/Tom_Alpha May 30 '23

Wearing a dress is practically compulsory in the royal marines

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u/DutchMaster732 May 30 '23

Those were not American soldiers

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u/Liet-Kinda May 30 '23

Fucking incredible. Love it.

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u/430Richard May 30 '23

Back then weren’t “drag shows” about laughing at the absurdity of a man dressed in a woman’s clothes?

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u/mobilecheese May 30 '23

What about the members of the military who do drag

They get two whole months :o

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u/Would_daver May 30 '23

.....two-hole months? Hmmm 🤷‍♂️

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u/_Glass-_-House_ May 30 '23

Hahahaha I don't have a award to give you but take a ☆ well done.

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u/Would_daver May 30 '23

Lol thanks, it felt dangerous but I giggled so I'm glad someone else liked it!

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u/Zequax May 30 '23

when is drag queen month again ?

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u/T1mac May 30 '23

I'd like to know what LGBT+ holiday there is where all the banks and government offices close to celebrate LGBT+.

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u/RedditOnANapkin May 30 '23

Drag queen month sounds like a lot of fun. Years ago I went to a drag show and it was one of the best times I've ever had and I didn't walk out wanting to "groom" children or whatever bullshit these morons fart out and try to present as fact. I had a great time and was entertained, that was it.

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u/Zequax May 30 '23

''those people '' you mean the people who want to groom kids into there religion/military

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u/Astro_Fizzix May 30 '23

That post would be just a non-sequitur unless the reader is homophobic.

"My obituary was only two paragraphs long but Harry Potter gets 7 books???"

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u/Karl_Havoc2U May 30 '23

Your analogy is perfect. Almost made me spit my cereal out, lmfao.

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u/Astro_Fizzix May 30 '23

lol thanks!

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u/Vaticancameos221 May 30 '23

I remember when Caitlin Jenner was the big story after transitioning my sister posted something about “Why does Caitlin Jenner get to make millions just for being trans when our soldiers make peanuts???”

I asked her “Wait- do you think that the money Caitlin Jenner makes is being taken from soldiers? What’s the connection?”

She got mad and deleted the post lol

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u/Karl_Havoc2U May 30 '23

The vagueness and ambiguity of the word "get" doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

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u/AlColbert May 30 '23
  1. American culture wants you to suck off service members 24/7, they don’t need a day.

  2. Guaranteed the person with their panties in a bunch spent the whole weekend getting drunk and fucking around with the grill they got on sale and didn’t go visit veteran graves.

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u/dennismfrancisart May 30 '23

The rank stupidity of meme making is breaking the minds of people who are too lazy to think through their dopamine high. If you ask any of the people who believe their memes how can we best support our military and their families, you'll come up with a blank stare.

Ask them why they support a political party that continues to gut services for vets, and screw over active military and their families. They'll give you the look of ignorant defiance.

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u/Flowchart83 May 30 '23

Does that guy support LGBT in the military?

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u/toooooold4this May 30 '23

Some of those veterans were LGBTQ and died fighting for your freedom to be a bigot.

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u/X_741 May 30 '23

At this point, the jokes just write themselves.

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u/acciowaves May 30 '23

Honestly, the military haven’t been responsible for any of your freedoms since pretty much the civil war. Maybe WWII. The have been responsible for taking other people’s freedoms away way more often. So I’m down for being part of a culture that celebrates freedom of expression and gender equality, instead of worshiping people who die so that rich people can get richer.

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u/Grogosh May 30 '23

Conservatives value their freedom to take from others.

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u/eastern-skier May 30 '23

I think that last part is a bit in bad taste. I don’t think the soldiers that died in Iraq at the time necessarily knew the full extent of what was actually happening behind the scenes… seems a bit disrespectful to their lives to just call them pawns.

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u/OmegaSapphireFox May 30 '23

If they’re so unhelpful, why don’t we just get rid of the military. That seems like a great idea to me. Abolish the military, and see what happens

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u/essaysmith May 30 '23

The strange thing is that they both have a high chance of being murdered by terrorists.

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u/ImSorry2HearThat May 30 '23

They also get a $800b budget. So kindly fuck off on what is fair and what isn’t fair.

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u/coolgr3g May 30 '23

It's funny when people talk about the decline of society lining up with a lack of respect for military members.

Like didn't everyone join the military for free college? Isn't the military about war and killing people? Shouldn't killing people not be glorified? Talk about the decline of society, this guy thinks killing people for college credit demands respect!

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u/Fisher900 May 30 '23

Vet here. I don't want a day, definitely not a month. Just healthcare...

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u/tjcline09 May 30 '23

Not a vet, but a regular mom wanting the same for everyone. I have Medicare and pay a fortune for it compared to what I'm bringing in. I try really hard not to complain about that because at least I have something. Healthcare IS a necessity in my humble opinion.

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u/Fisher900 May 30 '23

I fully agree. My dad passed a few years back due to complications resulting from agent orange. If we took care of our vets maybe he would have been at my wedding.

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u/Lana_Doing_Stuff May 30 '23

One is a marginalized group of people who are persecuted for who they are, and the other is a force designed to further the US's imperialist agenda.

The US military isn't some defensive force, that protects the citizens. It protects stratigic assets and helps push the US's agenda.

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u/NikFenomeno May 30 '23

When was the last time America actually fought for their country?

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u/[deleted] May 30 '23

I'd say ww2

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u/DaEnderAssassin May 30 '23

Nah, many of their wars were for themselves.

After all, what was once called Operation Iraqi Liberation was totally not about oil right?

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u/Professorplumsgun May 30 '23

Afghanistan was americas most recent war but i might be misunderstanding the question

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u/MeowCat280 May 30 '23

We're talking about wars where there was an active threat to the US inside of an active threat to the US's oil...

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u/lgodsey May 30 '23

I guess I can't be a conservative.

I just don't have the energy to care about so much pointless bullshit.

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u/FlaccidRazor May 30 '23

Wait, the party that voted to cut spending on healthcare for living vets is parading out the dead ones to try to make a point, then failing because it turns out they don't really know shit about vets? Can they get any lower?

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u/Modem_56k May 30 '23

Last time i checked LGBT people aren't committing Genocide

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u/JinkyRain May 30 '23

Yeah? Is June now a national holiday that workers get to take off? No. No it isn't.

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u/MessiahOfMetal May 30 '23

I mean, America has a national anthem that pretty much fellates their military and demands ultimate allegience from children, both happening/playing out on a daily basis.

LGBTQ+ people wanting to live their lives and having a month dedicated to them (just like black and latino people do, to similar hatred from the white supremacists) isn't encroaching on these morons and their freedom to gargle the balls of the military industrial complex.

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u/Cube4Add5 May 30 '23

We can’t appreciate multiple things at once?

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u/IAmGhostrix May 30 '23

i didnt know there was a military appreciation month

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u/misplacedsidekick May 30 '23

Apparently, June is also Candy Month, Great Outdoors Month and National Safety Month.

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u/ZaneTownsend May 30 '23

It's almost like they don't actually care about the military and they're just trying to score points with other lead paint smoothie enthusiasts on the internet.

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u/TKG_Actual May 30 '23

Did this guy forget we have not one but two full on federal holidays that are tied flat out to military history or something? Nevermind that military history month is a thing and that a certain percent of the American population pretty much worships the military like a bunch of lame diggaknobs...

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u/cunt_isnt_sexist May 30 '23

Military member fights and dies for our freedom, right wing shithead honors them by shitting on their sacrifice to take away the freedoms of Americans.

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u/Ol_JanxSpirit May 30 '23

Also, there are no federal holidays for Pride.

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u/CastleGanon May 30 '23

We don’t pay taxes to drag queens

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u/cheezeyballz May 30 '23

You can tell he's a republican... Who vote against veterans at every opportunity.

Look at their voting record and just try to prove me wrong 🤣

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u/Stormwatcher33 May 30 '23

You know NOT sending kids to die and kill would be even cooler still.

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u/whoozywhatzitnow May 30 '23

The military gets 2 months of appreciation. Mat is Military Appreciation Month and November is Veteran Appreciation Month.

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u/bitcheslovemacaque May 30 '23

If you wanna honor your vets, you should consider getting them off the streets instead of sending thoughts and prayers

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u/Akhanyatin May 30 '23

And the kids who get gunned down in numbers they didn't even learn yet get how many days?

And what budget reduction do the vets get because the republicans are holding the economy hostage (yet again)?

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u/jspangles313 May 30 '23

No no, we need to keep needlessly sucking the dicks of service people that haven't fought for our "freedom" in our lifetimes.

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u/FiloBetaRay Jun 01 '23 edited Jun 01 '23

My Uncle and his husband met in Korea during the Korean War.

They had to hide their relationship for years.

My uncle sometimes dressed as a woman and always wore make up.

Also: He was an immigrant who came to this country in 1941 from Lituania.

He died last year(2022) and left our family a trust containing 8 million dollars, real estate holdings in Florida, Las Vegas Nevada and Michigan.

Suck on that Republicans.

I wanted to add we found out after his death he had helped start one of the first clinics in Florida that catered to LGBTQ+

Suck on that Rhonda Santis

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u/bogboom May 30 '23

The US jerks off to the Military 365 days a year.

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u/ConspiracyHypothesis May 30 '23

I wish we'd stop.

"ThAnK YoU fOr YOur SeRviCe!"

It's a job. I did it because it got me out of my hometown.

Source: veteran

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u/KayDizzel May 30 '23

To be fair not many people are aware of National Military Appreciation Month. Though considering there’s Appreciation Months for a lot of things, many people should be.

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u/texas1982 May 30 '23

I've been in the military for 18 years and have never heard of it.

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u/toastman2007 May 30 '23

I am sure that there are hundreds of days throughout the year that are for specific groups of people, such as service members. Yet they do not receive as much attention as they should, most of them do wonderful things for us and society as a whole. However, their needs are wholly under represented, compared to pride month.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '23

Uh, Veterans Day and Memorial Day are two of the biggest American small holidays. Wtf you smoking?

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u/toastman2007 May 30 '23

I live in the UK, we do not really have those days to my knowledge. We do have Armistice Day though, I suppose that quite a few countries have across Europe.

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u/bt_85 May 30 '23

You all call it Rememberence Day. I was over there once for it, seemed like a big deal in the cities I was in.

https://publicholidays.co.uk/remembrance-day/

Edit: nevermind, just remembered armistice day is the same thing as rememberence day. Still, a big holiday on the same vein as the two the u.s. does.

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u/RunaroundX May 30 '23

To be fair your military hasn't been saving everybody else's asses in wars like the US has. (/s)

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u/toxie37 May 30 '23

They’re not aware of it because they don’t actually care about service members, just the idea of using service members as a weapon against things they hate

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u/danielepps May 30 '23

Anyone notice, there's a Military Spouse Day...

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u/zarfle2 May 30 '23

Buh Muh fEeLiNgs doNt caRe BoUt Ur FaX.

Waaahh

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u/rich0338 May 30 '23

You can tell we're in a declining society when practically everyone has access to the entirety of humanity's knowledge at their fingertips yet barely no one bothers to read it.

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u/Hyperpiper1620 May 30 '23

I couldn't imagine being angry at everything like magats are. Get laid, smoke some weed, drink a beer, watch a drag show and enjoy life.

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u/cmokemtl May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23

Wait but Republicans only care about people enlisting, once you're a veteran there no funding for programs that help you because Republicans cut that off because it's socialism. It's the same thing with kids lol

Fucking a

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u/BeatLaboratory May 30 '23

Drag Month is my favorite month.

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u/Fun-Outlandishness35 May 30 '23

Drag Queens don’t murder innocent civilians all over the globe.

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u/Salami__Tsunami May 30 '23

Fuck getting recognition and parades, how about we get some VA healthcare?

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u/Ardibanan May 30 '23

Genuine question to the Americans in here. What exactly are the military protecting you from when they are the ones invading other countries?

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u/redditmansam May 30 '23

To the original persons point “you can tell the decline of a society by what they honor…” attitudes towards military honor has been declined since World War I. We started to stop believing in the old lie, “Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori” over 100 years ago!

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u/Maksa1999 May 30 '23

Same problem as men who ask why they don't have their own day on Women's day. But they already do... They just don't make anything out of it.

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u/JiroKatsutoshi May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23

I've always seen it as "Yes, the day we honor those who died for political games and greed" vs "Hey, people have been fighting to not be beaten and harassed for existing."

I'll never understand the pride in this country, let alone respecting the people signing up for a politician ls gain.

Edit for clarification: I meant pride as in patriotism, not Pride as in the community

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u/MarthaOo May 30 '23

The military is full of LGBTQ+. This person is just spreading hate and using our service people as an excuse to do so. Coming from a family that has every single branch of military and has had a relative who has fought in every war since the founding of our Nation this guy can shove off. Keep your hate out of Memorial Day. What a shame to trample upon this day for the very people who served our nation.

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u/starchildx May 30 '23

I don’t understand how republicans are so jealous of everybody

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u/DaFlyingMagician May 31 '23

Never understood how some people will talk about these sort of things being the causes of "societal decline". They must have a terrible understanding of history.

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u/usingastupidiphone May 31 '23

They should take that energy and work on the politicians to make lives easier for current and retired service members. Especially that party that wants to cut benefits, which one was that?

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u/GenericSpider May 31 '23

If Pride Month was Pride Day, conservatives would still bitch that gays got a whole day; and then demand to know when straight day was.

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u/Spear_Ritual May 31 '23

I’m beginning to believe the harder a person leans into “patriotism,” the dumber they are.

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u/Single-Dark-472 Jun 03 '23

We have a national military appreciation month?!? This is honestly the first time I’ve heard of it

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u/wall-e_dystopia Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23

And earth.. gets a day

(I am an ally of both veterans and the lgbtq+ communities but the rock we are literally standing on should get a bit more credit.)

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u/FrancescoTangredi May 30 '23

US genocidal murderers deserve only mockery and disgust. They go into third world countries, kill children and are venerated at home like heroes

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u/_Glass-_-House_ May 30 '23

Don't forget some are rapists and also the U.S broke Geneva conventions by using cluster bombs in civilian settlements. Oh yes and how the military grooms and indocterates young school children with recruitment contracts as early as 16 in some red states. Good thing tiktok exists to raise awareness to these atrocities for young individuals whom are being taken advantage of and don't know any better. Convenient how Republicans want to ban it because they beleive little timmy is going to leak military secrets or despite the same thing being done on discord and no Republicans are wanting to ban discord interesting almost like there is a different motive with tiktok.

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u/MeowCat280 May 30 '23

It would also be terrible if they specifically targeted minority and low income schools with promises of free college.

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u/_Glass-_-House_ May 30 '23

Great addendum to my point it really is sickening and predatory than again nothing compared to what religion does.

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u/MeowCat280 May 30 '23

Oh well good thing it's not making my mere existence illegal in a country with freedom of religion. Because I'd be terrified if a vast portion of my government ignored medical warnings and advice as they targeted a minority with a alarmingly high suicide rate. someone please help. this is fucking scary.

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u/_Glass-_-House_ May 30 '23

I realise it is horrendous and terrifying my trans bf has been on eggshells adding paranoia to a mind full of dysphoria, depression, and anxiety. Though I remind him everyday that I shall stand by his side and take every snare of resentment society vexes upon him. Waves crash and batter to rubble the walls we build for our protection but as long as we band together we will become an island, a sanctuary where hate is left on the shore. For the biggest waves may crush us the hardest however, they move twice as fast. This too shall pass it's just a matter of being safe, being strong, and remembering to be yourself even if we may not always look it. Because come what may you are a beautiful creature called a human being capable of taming the oceans and conquering the galaxies of imagination itself. You got this I beleive in you. One day at a time and it shall be the day where noone has to live in fear of being themselves soon enough.

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u/MeowCat280 May 30 '23

thank you.

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u/onlyjquinn May 30 '23

Unhappy is the land that needs a hero.

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u/Gabo4321 May 30 '23

also : murica didn't actually fight to protect themself for 200 years, every death their military suffered was involving waging war outside their country for totally unrelated reason, making them the biggest belligerent country in the world for every1 who isn't a total dumb ass

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u/dullship May 30 '23

Also, they CHOSE to be in the military. They weren't BORN into it.

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u/Bumbleclat May 30 '23

Not anti anything but I believe appreciation and memoriam are very different. Everyone have a great day/night

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u/jerryleebee May 31 '23

Maybe if the military dressed more fabulously.

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u/Brass_Ensemble May 30 '23

He didn't die defending democracy; he died invading a country for oil. Sorry, I don't appreciate his sacrifice

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u/mcsonboy May 30 '23

Apologies if I don't honor those fighting illegal wars against countries that never attacked us. Totally my b

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u/Karl_Havoc2U May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23

Is this really a murder? I'm not sure it's fair to say veterans even "get" a military appreciation month just because there's something called that. I mean, would you really feel appreciated or celebrated and respected when half the country is basically bigoted towards you and thinks veterans are sex offenders.

Edit: I'm really sorry guys. The point I thought would be clearly conveyed here is exactly the point being made in the best comments criticizing me.

This was a really poorly executed attempt at satire. I meant this to be in solidarity with the LGTBTQ+ community and mistakenly thought that would be obvious. Again, I'm really sorry.

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u/MonkCherry May 30 '23

Is this really a murder? I'm not sure it's fair to say that the LGBTQ community even "get" a Pride Month just because there's something called that. I mean, would you really feel appreciated or celebrated and respected when half the country is basically bigoted towards you and thinks LGBTQ folks are sex offenders?

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u/Karl_Havoc2U May 30 '23 edited May 30 '23

I 100% agree with you here. In fact, my comment that is being (rightfully) downvoted was meant to be satirical and making this exact very point, lol. I'm really sorry about the confusion.

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u/AlColbert May 30 '23

Do LGBTQIA+ people feel appreciated or celebrated and respected when half the country is basically bigoted towards them and thinks they’re sex offenders?

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u/Karl_Havoc2U May 30 '23

You're completely right. This was actually the exact point I thought I was conveying in what was clearly a very shitty attempt at satire. I'm really sorry.

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u/Zegram_Ghart May 30 '23

I also didn’t understand you were making fun of homophobes/transphobes until you clarified

Upvoted for clarity!

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u/Stabbmaster May 30 '23

I think the better question is why most people go their entire lives not even being told/knowing that month long observation even exists, and starting from June 1st every corporate shill on the planet starts flexing their stolen rainbows until July rolls around (which are then unceremoniously discarded). Or the fact that anyone thought it was a good idea to give any group a month of observation for doing nothing. It would be no different than having a "Kardashian appreciation month".

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u/Cornblaster700 Jun 02 '23

how bout it's about surviving constant oppression and genocide while protesting the bad treatment that some in the community sill face, pride month doesn't "celebrate nothing", it celebrates the continued existence of our community despite all odds

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u/Rmac_496 May 30 '23

How about taxpayer appreciation month? The real people fighting for freedom.

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u/Funny-Pineapple-9448 May 30 '23

No you're wrong, obviously the random meme is a more reliable source /s

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u/The-Old-Prince May 30 '23

Yall thrive on pushing these culture wars. Good grief

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u/ArTiyme May 30 '23

The "Culture war" is a disguise for Class warfare being waged by the elites who keep being elites by making sure there are plenty of idiots who vote against their own best interests because they're outraged that people different from themselves exist. The people fighting against that are fighting for people to be treated like people, because once we have achieved basic human decency, we can unify against the elites who are destroying the planet and society because it makes them a quick buck. But hey, if you prefer being a bootlicker, that's all you.

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u/Jalsonio May 30 '23

The difference is that every company and their mom touts the pride flag, but none of them do American flag variations of their logos for Military Appreciation Month, there are no official announcements and no one incorporates it into their ads. So, hardly anyone actually knows about it

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u/ArTiyme May 30 '23

The difference is the people who claim to "Support the military" fucking don't, and they don't care. Who's problem is it that they don't know about this? Is it...EVERYONE ELSE'S?

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u/Neighborhood_420 May 30 '23

you mean corporations use pride month to make money? benefiting no one but the multi billion dollar companies, you aren’t making the point you think you are

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u/DemonKai7 May 30 '23

Indeed.

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u/ryanh424 May 30 '23

To be fair, it isn't marketed as heavily as pride month, although I do agree that a small bit of research would have solved this easily.

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u/Neighborhood_420 May 30 '23

the only reason pride is more known about is bc companies use to to try and make money, they turn all their advertisements into rainbow just hoping to get money

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u/dylaneffinbunch May 30 '23

The difference being, one of those groups did absolutely nothing to deserve any recognition.

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u/humanzRtrash May 30 '23

One group has fought for the freedoms of others. The other group has had their freedoms denied or stripped, plus rejected by family/society. Also a person can be in both groups.

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u/dylaneffinbunch May 30 '23

They were not stripped of any rights lmaooooo you’re delusional

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u/humanzRtrash May 30 '23

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u/dylaneffinbunch May 30 '23

Nothing you referenced is anything other than what should be the norm.

Strange you think this is violating some form of rights that likely never existed, and never should exist.

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u/humanzRtrash May 30 '23

That's your opinion. You think people shouldn't have the right to be who they are and freely express themselves but I'm the strange one. It's still illegal in some countries to even be LGBTQ, it's punishable by death. I guess those people should never exist?

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