r/MurderedByWords • u/[deleted] • Jun 01 '23
Yea I wonder why they stopped talking about it
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u/WinstonRandy Jun 01 '23
Matt doesn't understand big words like cooperation.
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u/Intelligent_Berry_18 Jun 01 '23 edited Jun 01 '23
He just knows he hates it. Sounds like commie stuff!
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u/Tdanger78 Jun 01 '23
Could’ve just stopped at Matt doesn’t understand. That pretty well sums up Matt Walsh.
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u/EnderCorePL Jun 01 '23
People like Matt Walsh mostly know they're spewing bullshit, but they do it anyway because it helps with luring in folk who truly don't know better to then spread hate and misinformation.
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u/dabestinzeworld Jun 02 '23
Kids learning "sharing is caring" in school? SOUNDS LIKE GODDAMN COMMUNISM TO ME!
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u/chinesetakeout91 Jun 02 '23
I think he’s capable of it, he’s just to busy “thinking about children”.
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u/Yeastyboy104 Jun 02 '23
It’s honestly really creepy how often and how much Matt Walsh thinks about other people’s genitals. It’s mega fucking creepy. Maybe I should say MAGA fucking creepy.
Every fucking guy knows when you pee at a public/work space urinal you always leave a one urinal distance between you and the other guys peeing unless there are no other options and you never, ever under any circumstance make eye contact.
Matt Walsh seems like a prying eye dick investigator at the urinal. Fucking bigoted weirdo.
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u/PhrixAnt Jun 09 '23
He thinks about genitals because they are being chopped off of young girls and boys.
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u/Yeastyboy104 Jun 09 '23
Ok weirdo. Stay at least 1000 ft from all schools
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u/PhrixAnt Jun 09 '23
Real funny, as I am attending one, and am at the age where these people are getting their genitals mutilated. And a word of advice, maybe you should stop just attacking people personally in arguments, and at least try and come up with a counterpoint, instead of just calling everyone who disagrees w you a pedophile.
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u/Yeastyboy104 Jun 09 '23
Cool story, bro. I didn’t read a word of it. “Off” is the general direction to fornicate yourself.
You bring nothing of value to humanity.
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u/PhrixAnt Jun 09 '23
Your really representing your ideology well
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u/Yeastyboy104 Jun 09 '23
It’s spelled “you’re.” You are. Learn to speak English, jackwagon.
You’re a representative of your ideology poorly.
There’s a correlation between dumbasses and conservatives.
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u/PhrixAnt Jun 09 '23
I think that telling someone to kill themself and accidentally using your instead of you’re aren’t equal.
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u/Yeastyboy104 Jun 09 '23
You’re too stupid to understand “fornicate” isn’t telling someone to kill themselves.
I’m out. Dumb simpleton.
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u/BringBackTheBeat716 Jun 01 '23
Matt Walsh is over here wondering why nobody's sending him faxes
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u/xsgtdeathx Jun 01 '23
His Internet Explorer still letting him down
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u/RampSkater Jun 02 '23
Everyone is too busy asking why the media isn't worried about the Y2K bug anymore.
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u/Legal-Software Jun 02 '23
Without thermal paper on the receiving end, two pieces of black construction paper and a bit of tape just doesn’t hit the same anymore.
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u/530SSState Jun 01 '23
If they tried that nowadays, the MAGAts would purposely spray CFCs into the air to "own the libs".
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u/Intelligent_Berry_18 Jun 01 '23
When truly pressed, most of their objections to anything comes down to being told to do, or not do something
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u/530SSState Jun 01 '23
ESPECIALLY something that benefits others.
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u/Intelligent_Berry_18 Jun 01 '23
Oh, the very idea of altruism is like pouring water on a cat
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u/TheLostonline Jun 02 '23
but when they need anything socialism is like catnip to them and they can't get enough
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u/Intelligent_Berry_18 Jun 02 '23
When it happens to them, it's because of circumstances. When it happens to others, it's because of their personal failings. Something, something boot straps, etc.
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u/bobbybox Jun 01 '23
And for some reason they think that “they” are telling us to panic, while in reality “they” just want us to give a damn, about our lives and longevity on this planet
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u/Whatever-ItsFine Jun 02 '23
Which I can understand. It's no fun to feel like you don't have control.
HOWEVER...
A couple of seconds worth of critical thinking should get them to the next step:
"Man, I hate being told what to do BUT they're trying to make the air cleaner so that my dumbass kids can breathe, so maybe I'll go along because that's a good reason."
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u/Intelligent_Berry_18 Jun 02 '23
They are VEHEMENTLY opposed to the critical thinking, no matter how many seconds.
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u/phantomreader42 Jun 02 '23
Yes, back when the GQP had a written platform, it was officially opposed to critical thinking. Not a joke, the actual quote is at the top of this page
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u/Whatever-ItsFine Jun 04 '23
They've got the critical part down. They are just missing the thinking part.
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u/beka13 Jun 02 '23
Most of us got over that when we were toddlers. Teenaged for the slow learners.
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u/Intelligent_Berry_18 Jun 02 '23
Middle aged or later for the dedicated contrarians, which is somewhat unfair; many contrarians are benign.
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u/Intelligent_Berry_18 Jun 01 '23
When truly pressed, most of their objections to anything comes down to being told to do, or not do something
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u/Nunyabiz8107 Jun 01 '23
But then they tell you what to do and get angry angry and threaten you when you don't comply.
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u/Intelligent_Berry_18 Jun 01 '23
Well, that's the thing at the heart of the ideology: hierarchy. They strongly believe in hierarchy. Their talk about freedom is part of this. And in their notions of rightful hierarchy, there are those authority/law protects but does not bind, and those it binds but does not protect. Being told to do stuff, that undermines their concept of their standing in that hierarchy. Experiencing being in the "out group", nothing upsets them more. This isn't the same thing as their persecution complex because that also reinforces their social position within their own peer group.
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u/Face__Hugger Jun 01 '23
TL;DR: The people who insist, "You should have just complied," are the same people who scream, "I pAy YoUr SaLaRy!" when they get pulled over for a traffic violation.
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u/dalr3th1n Jun 02 '23
Trump is on record saying he thinks hairspray wouldn’t hurt the ozone if used indoors.
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u/b1ack1323 Jun 02 '23
I wish I had that kind of influence.
“We should own the libs by picking up garbage on the side of the road and helping the homeless”
“We should own the libs by buying fuel efficient cars, you know, ironically”
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Jun 01 '23
I've seen this so many times by climate change deniers. I get finding data on climate science is a bit of work in the sea of denial, but this is like one Google search away.
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u/Canucklehead-519 Jun 01 '23
Which is funny because conservatives were in power in Canada and the United States when the Montreal Protocol was signed and came into place. You think they would want to highlight that fact instead, but nope...
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u/deg0ey Jun 01 '23
It has also undergone multiple revisions over the years and the US continues to ratify the changes despite the need for a 2/3 majority of the Senate to support it due to it being an international treaty. Most recently the Kigali Amendment in September of last year.
It’s quite literally one of the few things Congress can muster up bipartisan support for anymore and idiots like Matt Walsh want to just pretend it’s not happening.
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u/Idiot_Savant_Tinker Jun 01 '23
As someone who has worked on a couple of different kinds of refrigeration systems, and who grew up with someone who used to work on them, it's particularly annoying. Look under the hood of any car made before 1993-1994 and what refrigerant does it use? R-12, which is the nasty ozone depleting stuff. After that nearly everything in refrigeration that wasn't permanently bolted to the ground went to R-134a, and not long after that even R-22 started to go away. This is why it's difficult (not impossible) to get the A/C on older cars to work again, you either have to find some old cans of R12 for $$$$ per pound, or convert it to R134a.
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u/Whatever-ItsFine Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
Maybe the answer is that we shouldn't stop talking about it. "Hey, remember when we fixed the hole in the ozone layer? That was great!"
EDIT: It wasn't fixed, but it's not growing anymore. Thanks to u/nathanv221 for that important context.
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u/nathanv221 Jun 02 '23
*stopped it from growing
2/3 Australians (under the hole) will be diagnosed with some form of skin cancer by the age of 70
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u/Ariadnepyanfar Jun 02 '23
People Do Not Get The Same Google Results
At all.
It’s called a ‘google bubble’.
The algorithm is designed to find results that you will ‘find relevant’ that is, that you will click on. It is not designed to rank results by fact-fullness or truthfulness. It’s not smart enough to find factual information that is at your comprehension level and at a length you’ll find interesting instead of too long, dense, and intimidating, or longer than a click bait headline.
Your past browsing history is the biggest determinant of the results google will give you.
For example, if you have clicked on Christian websites hosted in the USA in the past, if you ask google how old the universe is, your top 3 pages will be wall to wall with ‘scientific’ answers that it is roughly 6,000 old, accompanied by scientific tear downs of the science of Carbon-dating, and debunking the Big Bang theory.
Google will give you the result you want to see. It’s not designed to be nefarious. This is an accident of programmes being too stupid for our needs. It’s an accident of no one paying for fact-checking the internet.
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Jun 02 '23
I know, that's why I said what I said. As far as I've seen the ozone hole case is such a done deal that there isn't droves of misinformation about it wherever your search history is from. And even if you believe whatever ozone conspiracy is out there, you can search what they believe "fake" scientists claim we did to solve it. This is clearly a case of not searching at all, and believing since we never heard about it at all, nothing was ever done about it.
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u/Lcatg Jun 02 '23
Also, people do not have the same level of information literacy. Even if we did get the same fixed search results, it requires some understanding of what a legitimate source is. Are they going to choose an academic paper by an expert in the field or a scammy political shill?
This doesn’t necessarily apply to this example. No one is really fighting to get CFC’s back (it wouldn’t be profitable), so most people will actually get the same results.) In general though, people get results based on what they think is legit from previous selections, how they search, & what their search engine is paid to present/highlight.9
u/Tdanger78 Jun 01 '23
It won’t matter. Presentation of data contradictory to their thinking is met with harder denial.
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u/JudeanPF Jun 01 '23
Perfect example of the Preparedness Paradox
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u/Pawneewafflesarelife Jun 02 '23
I've noticed mocking Y2K has become more common. People are dumb.
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u/Iguana-Gaming Jun 01 '23
Matt Walsh has traded any sort of intelligence for money and infame.
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u/DAduckTROOPER Jun 01 '23
What exactly does he do, I have not heard of him before
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u/Iguana-Gaming Jun 02 '23
He goes on podcasts and talks about 12 y/o being in their most fertile age.
Also writes books about it.
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u/Silly_Strike_949 Jun 02 '23
Also he made a documentary called ( what is a woaman) where he goes around asking experts the question.
The answers (or lack there of) are pretty shocking.
It's really interesting you should check it out
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u/sadendingmassage Jun 01 '23
Maybe you stopped talking about it, but in those countries under it, we still die of skin cancer at 3x the international rate even today because the damage was already done. Spent my childhood getting detention for forgetting my sun hat, watching ads about how to protect yourself and attending mandatory school health programs on managing sun exposure.
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u/Twistedjustice Jun 02 '23
My doctor once told me that everyone in Melbourne is vitamin D deficient- it’s either too cold to go outside, or if the sun’s out, you get cancer
I couldn’t believe when I travelled to the northern hemisphere- you can go outside and the sun doesn’t hurt your skin
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u/Pawneewafflesarelife Jun 02 '23
Yeah, moved to Oz and actually developed a vitamin D deficiency because I avoid the sun so much. It feels differently than it did in California, much harsher. The giant UV index signs were something I've never seen before but I love that they exist! Going to get a skin check thanks to Medicare in a few weeks.
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u/DreadedSpoon Jun 02 '23
So actually in latitudes above or below 37° north or south, it's functionally impossible for your skin to generate the necessary precursors to create vitamin D in the winter periods.
Endogenous production is essentially zero during winter months, so you have to get it from your diet almost entirely.
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u/northwesthonkey Jun 02 '23
The nice thing about being a Matt Walsh is that you can say whatever stupid shit you like and your fans will indiscriminately eat it up.
If someone calls you on anything, they’re a godless liberal America-hating fascist.
It’s so easy
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u/AwkwrdPrtMskrt Jun 04 '23
The ozone is recovering and by 2066 it will be back to how it was in 1980. Assuming the climate change we have right now hasn't drowned us.
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u/Stabbmaster Jun 01 '23
Matt's not wrong, though. They did stop talking about it, when they should regularly be bringing up the fact that we as a collective can and have in the past did something that not only was not detrimental to the environment, but actually was able to reverse an affect that we caused. Why aren't we talking about that more? Oh, right, there's an entire industry whose business model it is to sell us the bad news for outrage profit.
This isn't a murder, this is accidently confirming what someone said.
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u/Castod28183 Jun 02 '23
He was 100% trying to imply that we were being lied to and the problem never existed. No matter how hard you try to spin it.
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u/Stabbmaster Jun 02 '23
Actually, seems more like he was trying to point out how ridiculous extremists are in attempting to whip people up into a frenzy over anything while using any excuse at hand. Then, once the problem was solved, they didn't talk about it anymore. Because now It can't be used as a cudgel to bully people into something. But make of it what you will.
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u/Castod28183 Jun 02 '23
Cause it's so normal to continue to talk about problems after they have been fixed? Nobody was "whipped into a frenzy" over anything.
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u/Stabbmaster Jun 02 '23
Yes, we call that " history". You talk about the problems, how they were solved, and hopefully you actually learn a lesson without repeating the same mistake.
"Not whipped into a frenzy", somebody wasn't paying attention in the '90s 😂
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u/Castod28183 Jun 02 '23
How often do you bring up King George in daily conversation? Or civil rights. Or women voting? Or acid rain? We don't talk about these things on a daily basis because generations before us solved them, for the most part...
Jesus...How hard are you planning to shill for that cunt? We don't talk about the hole in the ozone because we figured out that problem 34 years ago...Are you seriously suggesting we have regular discussions about a problem that hasn't been a problem for over 3 decades?
I can't, for the life of me, believe that you are being serious. You have to be a fucking troll. For my own sanity, I can't believe that a human could be that fucking ignorant.
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u/Stabbmaster Jun 02 '23
I love how you keep shifting insults and goal posts, like that actually makes you correct. And maybe because I find things outside of pop culture entertaining, but those subjects actually do come up with more regularity than you think. Of course, I'm also someone who believes there is a world outside of politics and Twitter. You clearly don't.
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u/KaijyuAboutTown Jun 01 '23
This posting pops up every so often. I always like it because it’s a great reminder that we, collectively, can get our shit together.
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u/Rolandscythe Jun 01 '23
It's almost like people stop worrying about a problem once it's been solved.
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u/Spike3220 Jun 02 '23
"Remember when there was a problem, then we fixed the problem, now there's no problem any more?"
Goddamn this guy is a moron.
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u/ohheyitslaila Jun 02 '23
This gets reposted a lot, but I’m actually really glad. It can hopefully teach people about something meaningful.
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u/Sartres_Roommate Jun 04 '23
All the more impressive we got this done considering Big Hair was fighting for our beauty rights to punch a hole in the ozone layer.
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u/ravengenesis1 Jun 01 '23
Same thing with COVID, it was like such a crazy 2 years and now no one is talking about it.
Oh vaccines...
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u/PsychologicalPace762 Jun 01 '23
Matt Walsh is a corporate fascist and should be dealt with accordingly.
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u/Zakkana Jun 01 '23
Having Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro in this sub reddit is like drugging up an animal to shoot it and call it "hunting". These two lead paint chip gourmands don't get murdered, they slit their own wrists figuratively.
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u/Simmons2pntO Jun 01 '23
Don't forget when we had that global pandemic a few years ago, and everyone was "locked in their homes" because of the "liberal hoax virus".... well, because everyone was at home and not driving their cars, the ozone layer actually replenished and almost completely fixed itself.... but Matt Walsh won't tell you that cause he's a twat.
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u/Loose_Sun_169 Jun 01 '23
Ozone is still missing over Australia. Hence the world leading rate of skin cancer
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u/ChiefBroady Jun 01 '23
What this post demonstrates is, that Matt Walsh, whoever that is, is and idiot.
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u/davechri Jun 02 '23
Is Matt Walsh the guy caught on video being abusive to his pregnant wife?
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u/RedditIsForRedditYo Jun 02 '23
That was Stephen Crowder, a different conservative bigot and hate-filled person.
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u/that_one_author Jun 02 '23
The only greater one was the eradication of many tropical parasites in South America.
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u/Useful-Perspective Jun 02 '23
Even though this has been reposted a thousand times, I will always upvote it. It's a shining example of how things should be done in our global geopolitical landscape.
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u/hubaloza Jun 02 '23
Another great example of global co-operation is the eradication of smallpox.
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u/infinitemonkeytyping Jun 02 '23
And then look at Polio.
We got it down to a few countries, then the CIA go and use a polio vaccination program as cover to spy on bin Laden, which caused conspiracies about the vaccination program to spread in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Today, Pakistan and Afghanistan are the only two countries to still have wild polio.
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u/FoxtrotGolfSierra16 Jun 02 '23
God I wish we could go back to the time when people listened to scientists/experts. That would be so nice.
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u/obog Jun 02 '23
Was cool but there were greater examples of international cooperation. My mind goes to the eradication of smallpox.
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u/AirForceRabies Jun 02 '23
No, no, no--it must be evidence of a conspiracy! A conspiracy to...uh...let me get back to you on that. /s
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u/DrBraniac Jun 02 '23
It's mind blowing how people think climate change isn't real. And then they say schools suck.
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u/heftyspork Jun 02 '23
Imagine the wealth of information they have at their fingertips with the device they used to make this post and still said this ignorant shit for all to see
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u/Lord_Mormont Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 02 '23
Same fucking morons who believe we don’t need the Clean Water Act anymore because the water is clean now. Gee I wonder how it got that way?
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u/robjapan Jun 02 '23
The hole is still there btw but it immediately stopped getting bigger and has over time gotten smaller and smaller.
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u/th30be Jun 02 '23
Always considered the eradication of small pox thr best example but this is a great second.
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u/Crooked_Cock Jun 02 '23
Thomas Midgley has probably caused the most damage to the environment of any one singular human being in the history of mankind
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u/losethefuckingtail Jun 02 '23
“See kids this is what happens when you are proud of not getting educated”
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u/Brendo-Dodo9382 Jun 02 '23
Just because 1 dumbass didn’t research why an issue stopped being talked about doesn’t mean it never existed goddamn
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u/wanderinggoat Jun 02 '23
I want these people to come to the southern hemisphere during summer and get terrible sunburn because of the home in the ozone layer
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u/Horsepipe Jun 02 '23
The ozone layer is only part of why the southern hemisphere has a higher UV index in the summer than the north.
The biggest factor is that summer in the southern hemisphere is the Earth's perihelion where the Earth is 3 million miles closer to the sun in January than it is in July.
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u/wanderinggoat Jun 03 '23
So what is your point? Are you saying that the hole in the ozone layer makes no difference? Have skin cancer levels been the same for the last 100 years in the southern hemisphere?
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u/Horsepipe Jun 03 '23
I stated my point in the first sentence of my post. The ozone layer is not the only factor here and treating it as if it were is disingenuous when there are unquestionably other factors to consider.
Since you're wanting to bring up historical data I will first ask you if the population of the southern hemisphere has been consistent for the last 100 years and has cancer diagnosis stayed the same or improved in those 100 years as well?
There's no debating that chlorofluorocarbons contribute to ozone depletion. That is settled science. There's also no debating that the inverse square law being what it is the planet will receive a measurable amount more solar flux at its perihelion than it does during its aphelion.
https://sky-lights.org/2012/01/30/earth-at-perihelion/
https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/videos/87-why-are-uv-levels-high-in-new-zealand-summer
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u/infinitemonkeytyping Jun 02 '23
We also figured out that the replacement refrigerants (hydrochlorofluorocarbons) had ozone depletion potential, so we phased those out as well - virgin HCFC use is now banned in developed countries (reclaimed HCFC can still be used to service existing machines), but is still being phased down in developing countries until 2030.
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u/btween3And20chrcters Jun 02 '23
It's true, although I wouldn't call it "the greatest example of global cooperation in history".
For me that would be the eradication of smallpox. It seems really wild that the Soviet Union went one day to the UN and just said "what if we eradicated this disease that burdened humanity for many centuries?", and all the countries agreed and actually designed plans to end it in countries that didn't have the resources to do it themselves
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u/Salami__Tsunami Jun 02 '23
To be fair, I just leaned about this today.
Maybe that would have been a useful thing to learn about in school, instead of making me memorize the date of Oliver Cromwell’s confirmation as lord protector of England.
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u/gobbledegookmalarkey Jun 02 '23
Matt walsh seriously acting like the hole in the ozone layer is his quicksand or bermuda triangle
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u/LarsArvid Jun 02 '23
It’s that easy, if you want us to stop talking about things that affect climate change just fix it
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u/phantomreader42 Jun 02 '23
You have to remember, Matt Walsh is a conservative, and conservatives are fundamentally incapable of even imagining the possibility of solving a problem. All they can do is lie, redirect blame, and commit terrorism.
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u/edingerc Jun 01 '23
Midgley even knew that CFC's were bad for the Ozone, when he created them. But he said that since CFC's are heavier than air, no concentrations would get that high (forgetting that Earth has wind).