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u/DontTedOnMe Jun 02 '23
They say they're conservative but don't care about conservation.
They say they support our troops but block legislation that helps veterans.
They say they care about children but don't want them to have easy access to school lunches.
They say they hate socialism but still deposit their stimulus checks.
They say they hate cancel culture but are always looking for something to cancel.
They say they're patriots but tried to overthrow our government.
They say respect the flag but proudly fly the stars and bars.
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u/AwkwrdPrtMskrt Jun 02 '23
Their Diet Coke deity called vets losers.
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u/damunzie Jun 02 '23
and suckers
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u/Falchion_Alpha Jun 03 '23
And did nothing when Putin put bounties on American troops in Afghanistan
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u/Bearence Jun 02 '23
They say they care about children but don't want them to have easy access to school lunches.
We would have also accepted "They say they care about children but keep getting exposed as CP enthusiasts and/or sexual predators."
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u/Mermaid_Tuna_Lol Jun 02 '23
THIS NEEDS TO BE PRINTED IN A POSTER AND FRAMED!
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u/inhaledcorn Jun 02 '23
They say a lot of things to satisfy their ego. No greater Sin than that of Pride.
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u/horror-pangolin-123 Jun 02 '23
It seems to me that it's more about hate than pride.
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u/NeopiumDaBoss Jun 03 '23
Patriots doesn't mean supporting the government, the fuck are you on about?
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 02 '23
"socialism is when stimulus checks"
- liberals, apparently
Edit: it's extremely funny to see liberals trying to explain to me, a socialist, why I'm wrong about socialism
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u/harvestmanners Jun 02 '23
"Socialism is when government literally anything"
-conservatives in America
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23
Never said that conservatives were better
They're worse, that doesn't make the liberals any less annoying
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u/SLRWard Jun 02 '23
Stimulus checks are a form of socialism. So is Social Security. So is Medicare/Medicaid. So is publicly funded police, fire, and transportation departments. So is public education. We are not a purely capitalist society in the USA and you definitely don't want us to be one.
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u/Send_me_duck-pics Jun 02 '23
Stimulus checks are a form of socialism. So is Social Security. So is Medicare/Medicaid. So is publicly funded police, fire, and transportation departments. So is public education.
Could you please explain how any of that is a form of socialism?
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u/Pizza_in_Space Jun 03 '23
"Socialism is when the government does stuff." - Carl Marks
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23
No, social security isn't socialism, it's social capitalism
What you're advocating for is just mild capitalism, don't pretend to be a socialist you fucking liberal
True socialism is worker ownership of the means of production, true workplace democracy, therefore putting an end to capital and capitalist oppression
(And don't try the "that's communism not socialism", all you would do is prove you don't know what communism is either)
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u/FlynnXa Jun 02 '23
You sound like one of those vegans who try to gatekeeper other vegans.
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23
Ah yes, because wanting to completely abolish the capitalist mode of production is totally just the same thing as welfare capitalism, and I'm just being an evil gatekeeper
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u/FlynnXa Jun 02 '23
Your entire online presence is a massive shitpost, I think you just regurgitate buzzwords from an online summary of Marx’s works and don’t actually know much beyond that. Just a hunch.
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23
Do you have anything other than personal attacks? This entire comment was just making shit up about me
And since you consider yourself the judge of who has truly read Marx, I would assume it would not be too complicated for you to summarize the concept of fictitious capital?
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u/FlynnXa Jun 02 '23
It’s basically stocks and securities, forms of possessing capital without actually relating to the means of production or assets or just actual material capital. This can even include the exchange of titles, claims, and the capitalization of owning property (great for landlords).
But it’s always funny how the people screaming the loudest about Marx fail to ever recognize Engel’s role in these early and more widely recognized works which addresses more important and foundation concepts like consciousness, coerced consent, and structures.
And no, I’m not going to quiz you to “prove it” because I’m not as childish as you. Plus I’m sure you know how to work Google and would hate to point out how it’d take you 30 minutes to work up 3 paragraphs of a response all ripped from Wikipedia explaining each concept.
Edit: Oh, and for context- I’m a sociology major. I literally got paid to read Marx and other works from my academic scholarship.
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23
Oh, so you do know what you're talking about. In which case I don't really get why you called me a "gatekeeper" in this context. You should know that what they advocate for is clearly not part of "socialism'
I don't see where you think I "fail to recognize Engel's role" when there was no reason to bring him up at any point in this comment section, to me it feels like you're trying to show off how much more you know in order to look like you won the debate
Also I literally do not care that you claim to be a sociology major. We're on the internet, anyone can claim to be anything and there would still be no way to prove it
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u/salamander_salad Jun 03 '23
No, because you hijack a comment to bloviate about your own beliefs instead of saying anything relevant to the subject.
You are a bad socialist. You are not here to help, you're here to be the center of attention.
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u/Void1702 Jun 03 '23
The top comment literally had
They say they hate socialism but still deposit their stimulus checks.
How is directly answering a part of the comment "not relevant"???
I'm not here to be the center of attention, I'm here to oppose missinformation
Spreading lies about what socialism is doesn't help socialism
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u/Better-Director-5383 Jun 02 '23
Words mean things.
It's more like you arguing you're a vegan even though you eat meat and operate a slaughterhouse.
Socialism isn't "when the government gives people money"
Its a specific well defined form of government where the workers own the means of production.
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u/SLRWard Jun 02 '23
lol who said I'm trying to claim to be a socialist? All I'm doing is calling you an idiot. Don't have to be any particular kind of governance advocate to do that.
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23
You're calling me an idiot for. . . Using the definition of socialism that has been used by socialist thinkers for all of history since the beginning of socialism?
From Wolff to Luxemburg to Kropotkin, almost all socialist philosophers use the same definition of socialism, no matter what branches of socialism they are part of
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u/Robo_Stalin Jun 02 '23
Government doing things isn't socialist, socialism is an economic system.
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u/SLRWard Jun 02 '23
A socialist action by the government is still a type of socialism. Or do you actually believe that socialist governments can't exist?
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23
Socialism isn't an action, it's an economic system
A "socialist government" is simply a government that exists within a socialist economic system (in the same way that 99% of current governments are capitalist governments)
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u/Robo_Stalin Jun 02 '23
It's not a socialist action, though. Actually read some socialist literature or something.
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u/ScotiaTailwagger Jun 02 '23
What you're advocating for is just mild capitalism, don't pretend to be a socialist you fucking liberal
I never said I was a socialist. I'm very liberal.
Sorry someone shat in your fucking cereal this morning.
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u/Void1702 Jun 02 '23
Then why are you trying to lecture a socialist on what socialism is?
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u/InfernalBrush66 Jun 02 '23
As Marx famously said, socialism is when government gives money. Nothing to do with means of production or economic systems or all of that.
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u/-Quothe- Jun 02 '23
Some people are just scared that as equality settles in they may start being treated they way they treat everyone else.
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u/Kindly-Insurance8595 Jun 02 '23
I can't remember who told me this or if I read it somewhere, but the message was that if you've been on top so long and been treated like you're special for so long when you stop receiving that special treatment it doesn't feel like equality to you, it feels like inequality. So you become resentful of the people who you think are asserting themselves OVER you when in reality they're just fighting for equality.
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u/janhetjoch Jun 02 '23
For some reason I thought they meant veterinarians.
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u/Ricergobrr Jun 02 '23
They probably can’t tell the difference. If they somehow miss an entire month honoring brave servicemen, then they shouldn’t have any right to compare anything military related to anything. Facts straight first.
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u/capskinfan Jun 02 '23
How the commenter said they were celebrating memorial day...
Play some video games on my pc and go work on my show car then probably wash it if the weather is nice then take it out for a spin and see what’s going on around town
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u/exscape Jun 02 '23
Why was there so many sick animals in Vietnam?
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u/Wrenigade Jun 02 '23
On a similar note I've had men gripe "why do women get a whole month? Where's men's month?" And I'm like.... November. It's literally November. But they don't actually care about having a month dedicated to men's health and issues, they just don't want women to have a month about their history.
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It would honestly be kinda nice at this point if they'd just "be a man" and come right out with it. Be real about their feelings towards LGBTQ people. They love to act like they have well justified reasons other than pure simple homophobia and prejudice towards all their recent hysteria. But that's all it is. Yet few will come out with the truth like that. Wonder what they're afraid of.
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u/robb1280 Jun 02 '23
I always say, if you’re going to be a bigot, then just be a fucking bigot. At least be honest about it. Its insane how they come up with all sorts of reasons to justify it, rather than just admitting it. It just shows that they know its wrong, but they’re doing it anyway.
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u/The_Lapsed_Pacifist Jun 02 '23
Oh 100%. There’s a game I play that is giving away a bunch of pride stuff, the thread reminding people is full of people like that. Twisting it every way except saying “I don’t like gay people”. A couple of counter threads saying “why don’t straight people get a bunch of stuff” as well, ignoring (aside from the obvious) the fact that what’s being given away is actually really good and usable by all.
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u/name_first_name_last Jun 02 '23
Well, some do. Remember that speech at CPAC. I forget his name, but one of their speakers said in no uncertain terms that transgender people “should be eradicated from public life.”
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u/sixsixmusic Jun 02 '23
Military appreciation month, Veterans Day, Memorial Day
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u/probablynotaperv Jun 02 '23
As a vet, I don't need military appreciation month or veterans day. We need to get over worshipping military members like they're heroes automatically just for enlisting
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u/ilikemycoffeealatte Jun 02 '23
Plenty of shitbags enlist, and it doesn't cure their shitbaggery. Some become even bigger shitbags for it.
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u/AlColbert Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
Plus the other 332 days where every other commercial is a recruitment ad and everyone around you expects you to fellate soldiers whenever you see them.
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u/wes205 Jun 02 '23
Also November is National Veterans and Military Families Month
So 2 months each with their own specific day of celebration (Memorial Day, Veterans Day)
Also gay veterans/military members exist.
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u/06_TBSS Jun 02 '23
Can't recall seeing a restaurant or business giving 10% off for being a part of the LGBTQ+ community either.
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u/freakrocker Jun 02 '23
People only bring up the military in order to push their political agenda, further exploiting us.
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u/Meepthorp_Zandar Jun 02 '23
And let’s not forget the fact that Memorial Day is an actual federally recognized national holiday, like, you get the day off from work/school. Last I checked, Pride Month isn’t like that
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u/T1mac Jun 02 '23
It's a paid day off to honor their sacrifice.
Nobody gets a paid holiday to celebrate the LGBT+community.
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u/horse_loose_hospital Jun 02 '23
Last I checked, Pride Month isn’t like that.
Tbh the only group that truly benefits from Pride month is retail.
Slap a rainbow on any piece of cheap plastic crap & call it "allyship".
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u/hux Jun 02 '23
Pride month isn’t the same as it once was. When I was a teenager long ago, going to Pride was both a rite of passage and also the one day of the year you got to be somewhere you felt like you really belonged.
For many of us, that was truly a benefit. These days with so much more acceptance, it has lost its meaning in some way, but I think that broad acceptance has been a good trade. I’d rather see the retail version when it also means people have actual rights.
There’s still plenty of way to go, but I’m happy that many of the younger people of today have it a bit easier than we did.
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u/WetLandProphet Jun 02 '23
To be fair, I was in the military for 10 years and didn't know.... or care.
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u/SolomonCRand Jun 02 '23
I love when people say this and out themselves for not giving a shit about vets. Get fucked, you virtue signaling bigot.
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u/Kollin133_ Jun 02 '23
And April is the month of the military child as well, so even more chance for PATRIOTsTM to wave their bullshit around...
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u/PheerthaniteX Jun 02 '23
You know what? I'm sick of pointing out that they don't know when military appreciation month is. I'm gonna go full scorched earth and just start telling them it's because gay people ACTUALLY protect our freedoms
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u/whoozywhatzitnow Jun 02 '23
Not only do we celebrate the military in Military Appreciation Month in May, but we also celebrate veterans in Veteran Appreciation Month in November.
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u/Vaginal_blood_cyst Jun 02 '23
Living in the USA I get two veteran/military holidays a year. Where's my gay day?
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u/omghorussaveusall Jun 02 '23
Dude, Veterans day, memorial day, fourth of July, every fucking outdoor sporting event in our nation is a tribute to the military. Out of the 80+ baseball games at your local MLB stadium, I would guess at least 70 of them have some nod toward the military. I was at the Giants game on memorial day and it was nonstop praise of the military. You would have to be culturally blind to not notice this but notice the one time a year we celebrate our LGBTQ neighbors and community members.
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u/hamiltrash1232 Jun 03 '23
I went to a ballgame in Sacramento when I was 11, I was amazed by the amount of army and navy t shirts, posters, and advertisements there were
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u/T1mac Jun 02 '23
That is a quality murder. The weakassed "our military only gets one day, and the gays get a whole month" has oozed out of the MAGA disinformation bubble like it's a big time gotcha moment.
It's good they get slapped back with the real deets.
By the way, tell me that gay holiday where all of the banks and government offices close and people get a paid day off to go celebrate their gayness.
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u/SonOfRageAndLove26 Jun 02 '23
It's funny how some random idiot came up with that and they all just ran with it, just taking it as gospel and actually thinking it's a great argument, without ever checking if it was true.
But hey, liberals are the brainwashed sheep
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The vets who want an entire month to be celebrated are the vets who served in the galley, supply, or cleaning shitters for the minimum term of enlistment and now feel required to wear at least 4 pieces of military branded clothing every day just so you know they served.
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u/QuietObserver75 Jun 02 '23
Let me know when they have a pride event before major sports games throughout the year otherwise STFU.
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u/StatisticianNew5320 Jun 02 '23
Was I the only one thinking why the vetrinarians were supposed to get an entire month for themselves?
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u/EvlMinion Jun 02 '23
That reminds me of a comment a youtuber I follow received. The commenter was complaining about how LGBT people celebrate loudly for a month, but the people Memorial Day is for are silent 'because of the woke mob'.
The youtuber's response was blunt: The people Memorial Day is for are silent, absolutely. But it's not about the woke mob. It's because they're dead.
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u/yashspartan Jun 02 '23
I didn't even know last month was military appreciation month. I wish it was more.... "marketed" like pride month.
I also love how these companies market themselves for pride month, but if you check their Middle East branch accounts, nothing there. I saw a post showing Lenovo, Cisco, and Bethesda having pride colors globally... except for their Middle East accounts. Ah, capitalism. You conform to societal changes of your region to be "part of the good guys" when all they're doing is maximizing profits.
There are no ethics, just profitability, to these companies.
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u/tyingdanger279 Jun 02 '23
The problem is that not many people know of military appreciation month, much less talk about it
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u/Chillpickle17 Jun 02 '23
Vets get one day, huh. Which one? Memorial Day? Veterans Day? Armed Forces Day? How about Independence Day or Flag Day? Oh wait, I grew up in New England and we had Patriots Day. Maybe all the air and sea shows that are used as recruiting events for the war machine? What about June 6th or Dec 7th? Prolly can add 9/11 to mix now too. I’m sure there are a lot more days of recognition in local municipalities but these are the days I remember we recognized veterans for their service and sacrifices. This guy is living under a rock if he thinks gays get more attention than vets. Oy vey…🤦♂️
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u/thatbushcamper12 Jun 20 '23
There have been so many cases where republicans denied some programs for veterans that help them and yet they claim they care about them
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u/damunzie Jun 02 '23
Fox "News" must have been pushing this "1 day vs. 1 month" talking point, because I've seen so many of these morons quote/paraphrase it.
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u/Brilliant_Jewel1924 Jun 02 '23
The military also gets billions in funding so I think they’re going to be okay.
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u/TheCurls Jun 03 '23
Military people get a 10% discount everywhere they go.
Gay people get beat up.
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u/MessiahOfMetal Jun 03 '23
Imagine living in a country that worships the military so much that it's given an entire month to be celebrated, and that country isn't North Korea, China or Russia.
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u/Peewee_ShermanTank Jun 03 '23
Oh it's more than May!
It's also October, November, and... I think theres two or three days that are dedicated to the military, as well
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u/seg262 Jun 04 '23
And you use this obscure factoid that is neither activly mentioned OR promoted by ANY mass media outlet makes it equal. It doesn't. Anyway, how many people/ businesses REALLY support "pride" month, and how many are there just to make a buck off of it?
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u/bifallacy Jun 05 '23
They would be wrong regardless (assuming they’re from the US), both Memorial Day and Veteran’s Day exist.
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u/mxlblood Jun 02 '23
Was this a sound bite on Fox or something? Why am I seeing so many different posts about people saying this nonsense about vets only getting one day of appreciation?
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u/Whiskey-Jesus Jun 02 '23
The person is correct on calling out the poster for being a bigot. But lets not pretend military appreciation month or whatever it is, is as close to being in the publics mind as pride month.
Hell I'm a vet and had no clue this was military appreciation month until i saw this response spamed over the redundant argument the OP was making.
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u/JesterMarcus Jun 02 '23
Yeah, I'm a vet and I also have never heard of Military Appreciation Month or whatever. Not that I care that much honestly. It would probably just devolve into another month where all I hear is an endless repeating of "Thank you for your service", said with no emotion and no actual thought behind it, followed by troops and veterans being exploited for political or personal gain.
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u/CHAINSAWDELUX Jun 02 '23
And that lies entirely on the people who think it's important to celebrate and honor vets and do nothing to promote the month.
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u/Whiskey-Jesus Jun 02 '23
I don't think most in military would give a shit about a month "celebrating" them, unless it comes with days off or money. Just was making an observation.
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u/xbioxjim Jun 02 '23
But your point is invalid. Pride month is big because the lgbt community celebrated it and treated it like its important. Now company's see it as a chance to make money so they participate. If people want the military month to be important then they need to treat it that way and others will get on board over time. But this whole argument is fucking stupid.
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u/Whiskey-Jesus Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 02 '23
My comment was regarding the general awareness of a dedicated month. Not trying to figure out why one is less popular or the value of said month.
Is one more popular than the other?
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u/xbioxjim Jun 02 '23
Of course one is more popular because the people it's important to actually celebrate it. If these people gave a shit about military appreciation then they would do something with the month. The fact that it's not popular is entirely on them.
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u/Whiskey-Jesus Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
So we agree then. One is more popular than the other, while everything you said is also true.
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u/Imboredsoimhere123 Jun 02 '23
I definitely see your point. I think it's more of a societal issue regardless of political stance. Also I think the reason why pride, black history, Latino, etc months are more talked about and promoted is because those groups of people have and still face a lot of persecution and oppression which unfortunately seems to be growing more and more
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u/Whiskey-Jesus Jun 02 '23
I agree as to why pride, black history, etc. more popular. Just was making an observation as to why i dont think the response is as good of a got you, as the responder thinks it is.
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yeah , and the point is that is they carred as much as they like to pretend they care abotu vet they would organise stuff for it for these month do be less meaningless
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u/Whiskey-Jesus Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 02 '23
I'm well away. It doesn't change anything i said. Simple question:
Is pride month more popular than military appreciation month? Yes or no?
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u/TheHighFlyingElbow Jun 03 '23
Vets fought and died to pioneer freedom. America still hasn't made its people "free" to enjoy recreational drugs, legitimized prostitution, or affordable healthcare. You could argue that the free-est indicator of American Freedom is to be gay or trans.
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u/Cornblaster700 Jun 02 '23
I wonder why that is... couldn't be that pride month has started so LGBTQ issues are on the top of people's minds
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u/saltysaysrelax Jun 02 '23
What did all the corporations change their logos to for military appreciation month? Anyone see?
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u/Cornblaster700 Jun 02 '23
you say that like the pride pfps aren't just to profit off of minorities for a month and pretend to support them
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u/prey4mojo Jun 03 '23
Correct, I have never seen any company use the American military/flag in their advertising... oh wait.
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u/DamagedJefff Jun 02 '23
We should replace “Go fuck yourself” with “Go educate yourself” since it really hits harder
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u/A_Splash_of_Citrus Jun 02 '23
Most people in the military, vets, or are family or anything would actually know this because 500 different organizations and all their points of contact will spam your inbox with emails about events you'll never actually go to because they're all on your off time.
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u/usernameround20 Jun 02 '23
And one day…there’s Memorial Day for our lost brothers and sisters, Armed Forces day, Military Spouses day, July 4th, Patriot day, each service has a day, blah blah blah. These fuckers don’t care about AD or vets, they just want to use us to try to spread their hate and division
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u/Myth_5layer Jun 02 '23
There's a month dedicated to a few ethnicities we don't actively celebrate. Like Jewish heritage month, Mexican heritage month. It's just that Pride and Black history are more well known and actively celebrated.
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u/ApenguinnamedRUA Jun 02 '23
My family has served since WWII, cousin's hubby has a VA facility named after him and this is the first I've heard of Military Appreciation month.
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u/BrowningLoPower Jun 02 '23
I wonder if the bigot OOP is even a veteran, or has family members that are veterans.
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u/daneilthemule Jun 03 '23
Two days to follow their thoughts. Memorial and Veterans Days. What a fool, can’t even hate correctly.
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u/Isteppedinpoopy Jun 02 '23
Gay vet. Two months of solid partying.