r/MurderedByWords • u/whenitpours3 • Jun 07 '23
Martha, who lives in glass house paused her cooking show to throw some stones
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u/openly_gray Jun 07 '23
You assume that she actually thinks of ordinary people as peers with the same rights
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u/RandyDinglefart Jun 07 '23
I'm not even sure why Martha Stewart gives a shit about this at all or why anyone cares what she has to say. We're so fucking obsessed with celebrity hot takes. Quick someone ask Ja Rule what he thinks about minimum wage.
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u/yoyoadrienne Jun 08 '23
She and everyone else making these comments are freaking out because their investments in commercial real are tanking
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u/thefrostmakesaflower Jun 08 '23
I assume she has some investment in commercial properties. Any take I hear from celebrities or politicians about remote work is because their investment isn’t doing well. Tough shite
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u/Justcouldnthlpmyslf Jun 07 '23
I'm going to have "I'm Real" stuck in my head for the rest of the day and I'm not sure I appreciate that.
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u/betterwoke Jun 07 '23
Martha should shut her pie hole.
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u/bobbybox Jun 07 '23
She should smoke more weed with snoop dog
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u/Grumplogic Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23
Smoking weed with Snoop Dogg doesn't make Martha Stewart cooler it makes Snoop less cool.
Edit: personally I don't think Snoop has been cool since Drop it Like it's Hot. And that was like 15-20 years ago because Key and Peele did a parody of the song on MadTV
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u/LittleRickyPemba Jun 07 '23
She probably thinks that there are people who bitch about rights and wait to be saved by others, and people like her who do whatever it takes to get ahead.
People like her tend to have a profoundly Manichean view of life.
The reality is that whole there are people who just wait to be saved, and there are sharks, most of us are somewhere in between the two extremes.
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u/Data-Suspicious Jun 08 '23
My life's motto is "I will save myself until it is absolutely necessary to ask for help, and I will save others if I'm able to"
Basically a more wordy "place your oxygen mask on before others"
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u/1980techguy Jun 07 '23
I'll take "people who have millions tied up in commercial real-estate" for $500 Alex.
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u/cptnobveus Jun 07 '23
Yup. My significant other works for a national insurance company that is about to make everyone that lives within 50 miles of an office, spend 3 days a week in the office. No assigned desks/cubicles, you reserve a desk everyday and have a locker. Luckily we are too far for her to have to go in.
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u/NitroHyperGo Jun 08 '23
My company is doing this too; two days for now and then eventually back to five. The kicker is they're a consulting company and the client I work for, as well as my entire team, is based in a totally different state. I now have to drive 45 minutes one way to sit in what's basically a classroom just to do the same work I've been doing fine at home for the past two years. They refuse to budge on this.
I have an interview for another job lined up already and will be leaving as soon as possible.
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u/Skolvikesallday Jun 08 '23
That's the funniest part. 5 years from now these companies will have only the dumbest, least talented people in their industries. Everyone with talent will be at the companies that still allow remote.
The smart companies are absolutely loving the prospect having this massive advantage. The dumb companies are too dumb to even realize all the talent they're serving up to their competition on a silver platter.
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u/yoyoadrienne Jun 08 '23
One company I interviewed for wanted 100% on site. They told me they’d interviewed 50 people and offered it to two other people who promptly went back to their full time REMOTE employers and negotiated a better salary then turned down the offer. They asked me if there’s any chance I would do the same . “No absolutely not”.
They did not take it well when I turned down their offer later. And now my salary is almost 50% higher at my remote job.
No one in that office that I met in the interview process was under 50
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u/tchiseen Jun 08 '23
That's the funniest part. 5 years from now these companies will have only the dumbest, least talented people in their industries. Everyone with talent will be at the companies that still allow remote.
That's not all they'll have, they'll also have mostly worthless corporate realestate they have to manage!
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u/cptnobveus Jun 08 '23
Non talent is cheaper
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u/Skolvikesallday Jun 08 '23
Yea that's the point. If you race to the bottom, guess where you end up?
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u/MyFeetLookLikeHands Jun 08 '23
We are Farmers, bum, de bum-bum, bum bum
Have they officially said what will happen to employees outside the radius?
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u/padishaihulud Jun 08 '23
Probably the same as American Family, just keep working remotely. They don't need everyone to come back, just a certain number of butts in seats to satisfy tax requirements.
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u/appraisersRdum Jun 08 '23
Why? Only a few of those companies own the buildings they work out of. Most are leased.
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u/kookyabird Jun 08 '23
Commercial leases tend to be multi-year things, with harsh penalties for backing out of it. Companies that have their space via a lease are trying to justify contractual obligations.
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u/Daddygamer84 Jun 07 '23
Maybe the people that go to jail for having a shitty work ethic shouldn't judge other peoples' work ethic.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PMs_187 Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23
It isn’t about work ethic. Rich people like her don’t have their millions in savings accounts, they store their fortunes in historically “safe” investments such as corporate real estate. The commercial real estate market is on the verge of collapse, which means they have very strong incentive to get the worker bees back into the office to protect their money.
We’re all just pawns to the investor class, the bullshit rationale about productivity is just to shame us into doing things that make zero sense.
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u/BellacosePlayer Jun 07 '23
The commercial real estate market is on the verge of collapse
What if, and hear me out, they stopped building office/retail locations there's no demand for, and instead just built more residential housing? 🤔
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u/Uncreative-Name Jun 08 '23
But then how are you going to charge people $2,500 a month for a tiny one bedroom apartment?
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u/Cosmicdusterian Jun 08 '23
This. Read today that it's probably going to be a drawn out collapse over years, but it is coming. Saw her quote and thought, "Oh, are we freaking out because we have extensive investment in commercial properties?". The investor class owned media is doing all they can to spread Martha's word. Because they also have commercial property investments.
I snorted when I read what she said. Martha Stewart is not my go-to for business/life advice, hyperbolic, or otherwise.
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u/xero_peace Jun 07 '23
I thought she went to jail over not outing her source on her insider trading?
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u/Daddygamer84 Jun 07 '23
No, she went to jail for insider trading
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u/BernieTheDachshund Jun 07 '23
She went to prison for lying about her insider trading.
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u/Daddygamer84 Jun 07 '23
Which is a crime. Folks don't go to prison for lying about murder, it's the murder that does it.
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u/LoveItLateInSummer Jun 08 '23
She was charged and convicted on 18 USC § 1001 which is not insider trading. She lied to the federal government while they were investigating her for possible insider trading.
The crime she was charged with gets charged all the time, or is used to leverage people into cooperation as a threat.
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u/Moose135A Jun 07 '23
The best reply I saw to that tweet was:
She worked remotely from prison for about 18 months and the company was fine.
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u/jeffweet Jun 07 '23
Except it wasn’t They fired a bunch of people, the stock price plummeted, companies that depended on the company lost tons of business. I worked there before and during the investigation.
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u/backstageninja Jun 07 '23
Was that because she was working remotely or due to the scandal of her getting busted?
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u/jeffweet Jun 07 '23
The CEO of a publicly traded company was convicted of a securities crime. She had to step down and was banned from serving on public boards.
I’m not saying she wasn’t wrong. I’m just saying that the company wasn’t fine.
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u/Don_Gato1 Jun 07 '23
That's fair, though it doesn't have anything to do with her working remotely.
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u/ohno Jun 07 '23
Haven't the majority of studies shown workers are more productive working from home? I know I get more done on my WFH days than I do in the office.
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u/backstageninja Jun 07 '23
Just like workers were more productive with an 8 hour work day vs 12, 5 day weeks vs 7, and most of the things workers have been fighting for this whole time. And that's because "happy workers work harder"
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u/Jackm941 Jun 08 '23
Also why can't you get ever done in 5 days ? Maybe your being asked to do to much. How much is enough? Why is it all about work and productivity and not just a healthy balance.
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u/backstageninja Jun 08 '23
Because the machine of capitalism doesn't give a fuck about your healthy work/life balance. No one sees beyond a quarterly balance sheet so workers are resources to be squeezed for all their juice and discarded. Thank Jack Welch for steering the slow turning barge of capitalism from the compassionate path right into the rock of vulture capitalism
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u/SocialDistanceMedia Jun 07 '23
I've been working from home since August 2011. I may need to visit my eye doctor soon because I've hurt myself rolling my eyes over headlines lately.
This has absolutely nothing to do with productivity (because the pandemic proved people get stuff done from a working internet connection) but instead the potentially bleak future of commercial real estate. I'd be curious to see what sort of commercial real estate holdings Stewart has to see if that is motivating her rant.
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u/Whateveryouwantitobe Jun 07 '23
I'm basically the same. But it's a lot more laid back working from home and I don't have to drive to the office each day. I'm so much happier than I was before and I would quit if they forced us back.
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u/Odd-Phrase5808 Jun 08 '23
Totally! The 3+ hours a day I'm saving by NOT being stuck in traffic each day (or getting queasy on a bus stuck in traffic) are usually split between more work hours and more personal time (usually a run or gym session). So I'm more productive and less stressed and healthier and definitely happier. Whereas days in the office are about as unproductive as they get - people want to stop to chat, folks inevitably delayed by traffic congestion, people are stressed and make stupid mistakes...
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u/TheWriteOwl Jun 08 '23
I’ve worked remotely since I started working 20 years ago. Only 3 years of my career were in an office full time. Guess which years were most productive?
I can’t fucking stand people like this who think having your ass in an office chair = better work. What a small minded, micromanaging way to think.
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u/Morgen019 Jun 07 '23
Seriously. I have a significantly better work life balance w hybrid work. She’s was making money having a show “working from home” (not sure we truly were watching her cook from home). She needs to sit down and hush. She has no idea what it’s like to have to live within a paycheck these days.(if ever)
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u/Disney_World_Native Jun 07 '23
My servers work from home. Why the fuck should I go into the office, take up space, and then remote into them while they are somewhere else.
Same for my team. We only go into the office if we are throwing a party and want it catered.
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u/optimaloutcome Jun 07 '23
I started working from home when I was a manager in 2015. All of our work was "in the cloud" so there was no physical infrastructure. Three of my employees were in different states, and the other two wanted to work from home. I'd drive to an office and get connected to cloud instances, join meetings via meeting software and/or phone. I called my boss and asked why I needed to spend an hour a day in my car when I have a phone and internet at home with full VPN access to everything I needed. Been working from home ever since.
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u/Disney_World_Native Jun 07 '23
Ive had people who work for me that I have never met in real life. They work from home and get their stuff done.
We had to move people off our floor and I found out each cube was about $10k in month once you added up rent, cleaning, supplies, power, hvac, etc…
White collar working from home is a huge cost savings.
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u/degoba Jun 07 '23
The most used piece of software in the world is developed and coordinated via email and version control since the early 90s.
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u/Tyrant1919 Jun 08 '23
What software is that?
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u/degoba Jun 08 '23
The Linux kernel. Its in every android phone, google and amazon device, networking gear, servers, mainframes, infotainment systems, pretty much anything you can think of.
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u/holeeray Jun 07 '23
She's probably got a lot of money invested in commercial real estate in one way or the other. They make it look like the banking crisis is over, but banks weighted in commercial real estate are about to get a reality check.
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u/ZweitenMal Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23
Here's a fun fact. Martha Stewart Omnimedia was (is?) headquartered at the Starrett-Lehigh Building in Manhattan, between 11th Ave and the riverfront between 26th and 27th Streets. It's nearly a mile from the nearest subway stop, and let me tell you it's hard to find a building with a worse location for commuting. I used to work in that building, and a few years later I turned down a job solely because it was in that building and I didn't want that commute again. But Martha--she had a car and driver. What did she care? Ordinary workers care, and we're not going to back to spending 45 minutes on a stuffy train smelling each others' armpits and farts, and then trotting a mile in the hot sun or freezing winds off the river, when there is no good reason we should.
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u/NessieReddit Jun 07 '23
Fun fact: Martha had her chaeffeur move in with her during Covid lockdown. Where the fuck was she going so often to need a driver living with her? Who knows. But she's clearly a very out of touch, old, rich, white woman who doesn't know when to not run her mouth.
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u/QuietObserver75 Jun 07 '23
I mean, I'll happily show up to the office for the kind of money MS makes.
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u/StressedCephalopod Jun 07 '23
This is so unbelievably dissonant and illogical that it's making my brain freeze up. What in the living hell does she know about it?
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u/xwt-timster Jun 07 '23
What in the living hell does she know about it?
Insider trading and talking down to people.
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u/FuzzyBacon Jun 07 '23
She's really much more experienced at lying to the FBI about insider trading than she is at doing it.
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u/Luke90210 Jun 07 '23
Way back when she was a young stockbroker in Manhattan, she took the subway. What she knows about modern working life in 2023 is another subject.
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u/WebbityWebbs Jun 07 '23
Did Martha happen to connect the dots on that one? JFC, rich people are all fucking insane. If the office portion of the commercial real estate market collapses, it would be a big deal. Convert offices to housing you dumbass rich bitches. I’m pretty sure that 40-60% of work done on offices doesn’t even need to happen at all, much less in an office.
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u/xwt-timster Jun 07 '23
Did Martha happen to connect the dots on that one?
She likely pays someone to do that for her.
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u/Pansonic_ Jun 07 '23
Ahhh yes, someone who has no idea what real life is like, is telling us what to do, got yah. Just shut up Martha.
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u/FoxyInTheSnow Jun 07 '23
Martha's correct. I am a corporate real estate broker. Some of my biggest clients have let their office leases expire because they claim that work-from-home arrangements work for them and they no longer need the space, which is woke bolshy nonsense.
As a result, my commissions have plummeted, I had to take my kids out of Eton and dump them off at fucking Highgate, and I struggled to replace me eldest's McLaren when she wrapped it around a homeless person in Fitzrovia after having one too many Pimms Cups at the polo.
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u/nappycatt Jun 07 '23
I've been finding out a lot lately most of the celebrities I thought I liked, are garbage humans.
Glad the masks are flying off
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u/creesto Jun 07 '23
She's dead wrong. My boss runs metrics on productivity and my wfh days are 20% more productive. My boss, she laughed and said "Probably because no one wastes your time with inane chat." I laughed
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u/Narfubel Jun 07 '23
What I find funny is my coworkers and I chat about inane shit all day but it's easy to work at the same time since it's on slack.
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u/RumblefudDoohicky21 Jun 07 '23
Me getting a certification in data analytics while reading all these articles about how working from home is already dying out 🫠
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u/Bisping Jun 07 '23
I turned down a job opportunity because it wasn't fully remote. Stay the course!
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u/Maximum_Musician Jun 07 '23
This the same 80 year old that put herself on the cover of the SI swimsuit edition? 😂
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u/dandrevee Jun 07 '23
Shes right.
I can get everything plus some if im fully remote. Call me into the office and thats gonna drop to precovid levels
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u/OcelotWolf Jun 07 '23
Literally what the fuck is she talking about? I went into the office today and probably lost 3 hours of productivity just bullshitting with my coworkers
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u/Graphitetshirt Jun 07 '23
I don't have anything against Martha personally but come on had she ever done "real work"?
Like I'm sure she'd worked hard on her shows and books but does she have the first clue about what an IT or accounting department actually does all day? I'm in sales and our in-office days might be great for team building but they're absolutely the least productive days each week
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u/Bearence Jun 07 '23
Martha's right; you can't possibly get everything done working three days in the office and two at home. But she comes to the wrong conclusion. If something can be completed WFH, there's no reason to require people to come into the office at all, let alone three days a week.
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u/Themfruckus Jun 07 '23
Martha Stewart, who also isn’t aware of the innovation of computers and telephones.
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u/Weaselpanties Jun 07 '23
How is Martha Stewart an expert on jobs? Like how does she even come to position herself as a person who knows ANYTHING about the work other people do? I'm an epidemiological data analyst; is she really going to tell me that where I'm at when I set up my data and write code for my analytical software matters? How could she even BEGIN to know that?
This is clearly one of those cases wherein someone thinks that being rich and famous for doing one thing magically makes them an expert in other things.
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u/trollking66 Jun 07 '23
Fuck this insufferable billionare cunt! Like Musk she just want to load offices to slave drive employees so she might scrape off another billion. Im glad you millenials are waking up to this dumb shit the rest of us had to eat all these years.
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u/Boo_Guy Jun 07 '23
How would she know what does and doesn't work in an office?
When was the last time she worked in one, if ever?
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u/Spocks_viewer Jun 07 '23
To add to some of the other comments I've made about Martha's statements my bosses who are not pro WFH work from home for reasons like
My dog is having puppies.
Someone is coming to look at the puppies.
My back hurts.
I have a long term illness (while they make anyone else use unpaid FMLA)
I have a package being delivered.
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u/SarumanTheSack Jun 07 '23
I dont care how many dumb fuck celebrities chime in on this issue im not going back
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u/Cosmicdusterian Jun 08 '23
How to tell the world you have extensive investments in commercial properties without actually saying you have extensive investments in commercial properties. Suck it, Stewart. Maybe you can do a little more insider trading to make up the shortfall.
A little hyperbolic there, aren't we, Martha?
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u/Rynex Jun 07 '23
It's all about the tax credit at the end of the day. Martha Stewart can't be trusted for shite, so it wouldn't surprise me if she stepped up to say something because her friends want her to give her some of it.
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u/polgara_buttercup Jun 07 '23
I’ve been work at home for 16 years. I most definitely get more done working at home than I ever did at the office, plus I was available to pick up sick kids and not have to take off, or be home for repairmen etc. in the office I was constantly interrupted by people stopping by my desk or having to participate in stupid food days or pointless meetings.
I wonder how much corporate real estate she has in her portfolio
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u/SedimentSock82 Jun 08 '23
Well I guess joke’s on her. I get plenty done and I work 100% remote.
Aside from occasionally having to answer to the boss of me and my house… my husky
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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 Jun 08 '23
I'd ask why we're getting quotes on work ethics and balance from convicted felons, but given who was president...
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u/Spankydolittle Jun 08 '23
I personally get more done when I don't have people randomly entering my workspace to disrupt me.
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u/butter4dippin Jun 08 '23
It's people working from home that will do the country in ... Not the insider trading and corporate welfare?
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u/kimapesan Jun 09 '23
Well now we know about how much money Ms. Stewart has tied up in commercial real estate.
Cry me a river.
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u/damunzie Jun 07 '23
She has either lost her damned mind, or is looking for some negative attention. The comment is stupid on its face.
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u/Spurnout Jun 08 '23
she needs to shut the fuck up, what does she know about every day people's struggles or working in an office? fuck martha stewart, ya dumb cunt!
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u/HiitlerDicks Jun 08 '23
She probably own a bunch of corporate real estate.
The only people crying go back to work are the industries and spaces that are becoming obsolete.
You’d kick and scream too while you melted
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u/The_Blendernaut Jun 08 '23
So, let me get this straight. A criminal, convicted of insider trading and sent to prison, is giving the world advice on how we should conduct ourselves on a professional level. Do I have that correct?
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u/Justin_A1112 Jun 08 '23
I truly don’t get the anti work from home. It’s actually showed most people are MORE productive. Less stress with travel, and more freedom causes happiness, which then causes appreciation, which then raises productivity. Not rocket science.
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u/Brak-23 Jun 08 '23
My entire organization (less a few) of thousands of people work at a national healthcare company remotely with zero interruption of work efficiency. If anything, we’ve gotten more productive working remote…
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u/WSDGuy Jun 08 '23
Broad generalizations like that are so stupid. There are absolutely people with jobs that can't be performed effectively from home. But there are absolutely those with jobs that can.
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u/Bacontoad Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23
"Former federal prison inmate and convicted felon Martha Stewart says -"...
DGAF about her opinions on anything outside of cookie recipes.
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u/DifficultyWithMyLife Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23
Well, it's all in what she says. She says "YOU can't." It's perfectly fine for her, but the moment other people get the opportunity, all of a sudden, she's not okay with that. Rich people are not okay with the working class not only surviving, but thriving.
We all see the hypocrisy, but in their minds, it's not hypocrisy. They think they're just better and thus deserve more, when that's not the case. They justify their obscene riches; they justify inequality; they justify our suffering so they can have more - always more - and it will never be enough for them.
The rich must be made to remember that the social contract between workers and owners was an alternative we all agreed to so that nobody got hurt. There was a time when people rebelled against the tyranny of the rich. Perhaps they must be made to remember why they agreed to the alternative in the first place.
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u/mcman12 Jun 08 '23
Always good to have an 81 year old’s input on the state of the modern workforce.
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u/LeMans1217 Jun 07 '23
Earlier versions...
"You can't possibly get everything done working only 8 hours a day."
"You can't possibly get everything done working only 5 days a week."
"You can't possibly get everything done taking time off to eat lunch."