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u/_NamasteMF_ Jun 08 '23
To be fair- she apologized, and he accepted.
Nice opportunity to remember that our heroes and idols are also people- and sometimes their lives aren’t perfect either.
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u/WIN_WITH_VOLUME Jun 08 '23
To be fair- she apologized, and he accepted.
That’s why you gotta be careful, that apology will never go as viral as the original comment and response.
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u/DarkKnightJin Jul 20 '23
Reminded of that bogus "Alpha wolf" study, now.
The original researcher put out something that called his earlier work bullshit that nobody should take seriously.
But wouldn't you know it, hardly anybody knows about THAT particular bit. But everybody still 'knows' about the "Alpha" being the leader of the pack...38
u/colieolieravioli Jun 08 '23
I guess but to come at him like that over HOF nonsense? Not like a doctor didn't show up to surgery
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u/Brilliant_Jewel1924 Jun 08 '23
He didn’t do anything wrong, though.
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u/_NamasteMF_ Jun 08 '23
Nope- he didn’t. That’s why she apologized.
Being a human with a not perfect life isn’t ‘wrong’. It’s just normal. Our expectations of other humans, that because they are rich, successful, whatever- that they don’t also deal with losing a parent or caring for a sick relative are the ‘wrong’.
His response had a bunch of typos that aren’t normal for him. Why? Because he was going through a bunch of real life shit and a shitty internet comment brought that all too the front. His dad died. His wife’s mother is suffering. Their kid needs care that requires a parent/ loved one. He’s struggling with his own grief and gets a sarcastic comment- and responds. Because even though he is an incredible athlete, he’s also a human.
The person who originally commented realized that she forgot he was a real live person with feelings and a family. She apologized (she could have worded her apology better). He is over his immediate emotions, accepts her apology.
This is, should be, human life. Assume there is a real person when you comment or post- and that can be hard. I fail at it, a lot. My imaginary image of a person I like or dislike tends to be pretty shallow.
I think the Kardashians are trash- are they? I honestly couldn’t divide them and assign their correct names. Even if I disagree with a bunch of what I think they project- they are still real people. I can just not watch their videos or buy their products. I might write a blog about how my perception of their projection of women as sauce sellers of women as sexual products is really anti-feminist. I will also grant that they have created a lot of financial independence for themselves (way more than me!). What I shouldn’t do, and I hope I would be aware enough to apologize if I do, is make them a product- Make them inhuman. “If I am cut, do I not bleed?” Disagree with choices and presentations, whatever. Just remember that their are ( more often than not) real people on the other side.
I try to think- would I say this to a person if they were standing in front of me? And that goes to all levels of gossip and bullshit. Would I feel comfortable saying it to their face? And that’s how I try to gauge myself (and I have failed my own test, repeatedly).
She did an off hand, sarcastic post.
He responded, hurt and real.
She apologized.
He accepted her apology.
We are the outsiders who just got a reminder- there are real people on the other side of our keyboard.
❤️
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u/spacestationkru Jun 08 '23
She should have apologised for thinking that before she hit send.
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u/Justsomeonebored04 Jun 09 '23
She just made a mistake, a very stupid and unfunny one, but a mistake after all. I'm sure everyone fucked up on something and since we don't have time machines yet, it's better to apologize rather than continue being an a-hole
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u/mongolsruledchina Jun 09 '23
Yeah lets see if she actually learns from her arrogance.
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u/BarfMenagerie Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23
Someone who apologizes online shows they have the integrity to not only admit they were wrong, but do so in front of a public audience. That’s not easy and the fact they did so in the first place already shows that they learned from that experience. So yeah, the only arrogance here seems to be in your reply.
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u/mongolsruledchina Jun 11 '23
Yeah so many people apologize online. Then go on to make the same kind of remarks again and again.
Is this your first day on social media?
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u/BarfMenagerie Jun 12 '23
If you don’t give someone one chance at redemption for making a small mistake, it’s you who’s the problem. Look at you, you’re practically ready to crucify this person you don’t even know for such a tiny transgression that has nothing to do with you. You should probably see a therapist about your anger issues.
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u/DarkKnightJin Jul 20 '23
"The greatest teacher, failure is."
Making a mistake, and owning up to it to do better next time, is a great learning experience.
Just a shame that there seems to be a lot of folks with the impression that they can do no wrong, ever...
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u/illegallysmolkate Jun 08 '23
It’s kind of baffling that so many forget that people (particularly famous people) have lives outside of work and social media.
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u/jeffweet Jun 08 '23
A better question is who the fuck is Emily that she thinks anyone is beholden to her for anything
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u/BringBackTheBeat716 Jun 08 '23
RIP Emily Goren
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u/morningfrost86 Jun 08 '23
In pieces, maybe. Deservedly, too.
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u/Wolfwoods_Sister Jun 08 '23
Her apology wasn’t very good imo.
She did sound sorry at the beginning and “promised to do better”, but then she complimented herself (judging is a strong trait for her, she said) and then ended with “let’s see if they and you accept my apology…” which is just really strange and unnecessary.
He was gracious about it both times.
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Jun 08 '23
Obviously being the Hall would be a great honor, but no way I would go back every year for new players being inducted. Maybe every 5-10 years.
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u/beka13 Jun 08 '23
Probably just a chance to meet up with old buddies and catch up. Once a year seems about right.
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u/dmlfan928 Jun 08 '23
A lot of these guys are also friends but live in different parts of the country. It's just as much a chance to catch up with your buddies for a weekend as it is to honor the new inductees.
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u/geoffbowman Jun 08 '23
Honestly... the only answer he needed to give is "I didn't feel like it". It's fucking baseball... ask your elected congresspeople why they regularly skip out on sessions of congress you elected them to attend to represent you. Who gives a fuck about a retired pitcher not going to a thing?
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u/LieutenantWeinberg Jun 08 '23
Why is she even bothered by him not attending?
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u/RudeAmount9607 Jun 11 '23
Why is he even bothered by her comment? I love that he mentioned memorial/autism/memory care. Is he that sensitive that he needs to air all of his family’s private issues to defend himself from some random person? Lmao
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u/Aer0uAntG3alach Jun 08 '23
Emily still has copies of Palmer’s underwear ads that she takes out now and then for … inspiration.
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u/ItisyouwhosaythatIam Jun 09 '23
He could have left off the jab at the end. He wants to be given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he should have just explained why he didn't go and assumed she was just giving him the business and hadn't thought of his reasons. She probably still would have apologized and learned a lesson.
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u/lionbryce Jun 18 '23
Who cares about the mlb hof? Lol
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u/zyzzogeton Jun 08 '23
Imagine being so self involved that you think Jim Palmer gives a shit about your opinion... and then getting that reinforced when it turns out he does.
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u/maryfrancesannhon Jun 08 '23
Lately Jim Palmer has been getting a lot of crap from so many people,
I can see if you don’t like his broadcasting which I feel the opposite, I think he’s great, but the personal stuff, he was accuse of looking like stroke victim, he had cancer in his eye which was fixed which he explained What is it with people? It’s none of our business with someone’s personal life, just cruwl
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u/CopyAltruistic3307 Jun 08 '23
lol no idea who either of these people are or why they matter to anyone not related to them.
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u/sthetic Jun 08 '23
And you're proud of yourself for not taking the time to look it up?
Or you couldn't appreciate the exchange at face value without knowing their identities?
Or it's so rare that you see something on the internet that doesn't directly cater to you as an audience that you thought the rest of us should be made aware?
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u/squishysalmon Jun 08 '23
I feel like I should submit this to this sub.
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u/sthetic Jun 08 '23
Aww, thanks. Maybe if you did, some further murdering by words would occur in the comments for that post. And so on, until this sub is just recursive word-murdering in an unbroken chain.
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u/CopyAltruistic3307 Jun 11 '23
I am honored that my lack of giving a shit about 2 morons in an internet battle is sponsoring a murder.
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u/Smooth-Corrector Jun 08 '23
Why do stupid people like you have to exist.
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u/Maximum_Musician Jun 08 '23
I was just telling my wife the same thing about you.
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u/CopyAltruistic3307 Jun 11 '23
Well what do you know, I apparently matter to someone who doesn't know me or isn't related to me. Kudos to me.
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u/SarahphimArt Jun 08 '23
I get that he's upset, but, and this is just a guess to be fair, I think she might not have known this information prior.
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u/TheLastLivingBuffalo Jun 08 '23
That's the whole point. You don't know other people's lives, don't try to shame them on a public platform if you don't have the whole picture.
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Jun 08 '23
And yet she felt comfortable enough to assume he didn't have obligations that supercede an awards ceremony and blast that assumption on social media.
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u/SarahphimArt Jun 08 '23
that's not what she said. you're assuming what her assumptions are now. funny how that goes.
for allw e know she means ''bad look'' to be that the award ceremony should have invited him because she thinks he wasn't.
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u/The_Quot3r Jun 08 '23
Considering she put "great" in quotation marks, and only the word "Great", as in she's quoting someone else's opinion of the guy, which implies she doesn't think he's that great (cause is she did, why not just use great without the quotation marks).
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u/SarahphimArt Jun 08 '23
''thanks'' for explaining it like I'm 5
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u/The_Quot3r Jun 08 '23
See, you get it: Quotation marks around single works tend to be used to emphasize said word and often communicate insincerity. I could tell that you're not actually thanking me, and that you think I'm not being geuine.
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u/SarahphimArt Jun 08 '23
see, you don't get it. I don't know if you're being genuine, but I have no reason to doubt it. even more, the quotations were a typo, see I'm almost entirely blind so typing and reading is understandably difficult and sometimes unfortunate typos happen.
it's almost like you not knowing certain context you could not have known leads to an assumption...reminds me of something.
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u/The_Quot3r Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
So you didn't understand the explanation? Typo or not, that is the impression given off and that is what I was able to gather, both from the tone of your first comment and the short response. I was responding to the information I was given. I made no assumptions about you other than what you wrote: if you made a typo, it's not on me know that as I respond to you.
Edit: You know what's a bad look? Writing a comment that sounds like you intend for someone to respond and then blocking them.
wow...it's like you ALMOST get it. reread your last sentence untill you figure it out.
oh and you're not using the word impression correctly, what you mean to say is intepretation, you interpreted it in a way I didn't intent, some people might make the argument my intent in saying something matters, someone like you might even...oh wait that's what you said in the last comment actually. interesting how that works. but I'm willing to bet you have no clue what my actual intent was, nor what I was trying to convey directly correclating to the impression that gives. I swear there's a word for that too, maybe you can help me remember what it is? something starting with ass.
My words apply to the issue we are having: the assumption is that Emily was already aware of Paul being invited to the HOF, and that Emily is trying to communicate her scrutiny of why Paul didn't appear. That's the information being worked off of. More info being added doesn't dispute the impression that information had, just adds context. You're not working off information: you are working off a fantasy you thought up, kind of like how you're supposedly blind and able recreate characters with specific visual features that come from animated media.
And Impression is being used properly, because "an idea, feeling, or opinion about something or someone, especially one formed without conscious thought or on the basis of little evidence." Is exactly I was using the word for.
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u/SarahphimArt Jun 08 '23
wow...it's like you ALMOST get it. reread your last sentence untill you figure it out.
oh and you're not using the word impression correctly, what you mean to say is intepretation, you interpreted it in a way I didn't intent, some people might make the argument my intent in saying something matters, someone like you might even...oh wait that's what you said in the last comment actually. interesting how that works. but I'm willing to bet you have no clue what my actual intent was, nor what I was trying to convey directly correclating to the impression that gives. I swear there's a word for that too, maybe you can help me remember what it is? something starting with ass.
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u/Justsomeonebored04 Jun 09 '23
How do you know those were typos tho? That's an assumption too(seriously, how can that happen even if you are almost blind? You have to mistakenly type it twice in the correct order an place). She also said "bad look..." at the end, so the scenario that the other guy suggests is much more likely
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u/Far_Side_8324 Jun 08 '23
"How dare such-and-such celebrity have a life of their own! Don't they know they're a public utility?"
The correct answer is no, they're not public property, they're people like us with the right to have their own lives, and if more people remembered that, there would be fewer tragedies like Princess Diana getting killed by paparazzi or celebs feeling they need to punch out photographers literally stalking them for a good tabloid picture.
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u/shaden_knight Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23
Can someone please explain what HOF is?
Edit: For all who answered this, thanks.