Blatant transphobia

[u/ErectSemifinal]

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[u/NahOPwasrightfuckthis-ModTeam]

Nuh Uh

[u/No_Mammoth_4945]

They didn’t even screenshot the “OP”. They are the OP. How is it memes OP didn’t like if they’re not posting a reaction from another poster

[u/Savings-Horror-8395 → u/No_Mammoth_4945]

Memes some hypothetical poster wouldn't like

[u/Professional-Arm3610 → u/Savings-Horror-8395]

I love this, so many time the “they” is a complete fabrication

[u/SuperDuzie → u/Professional-Arm3610]

Phobes have no problem invoking pronouns when talking about a hypothetical person. They.

But a real person? No, now we need to be ultra, offensively specific.

[u/FishingAgitated2789 → u/No_Mammoth_4945]

Sometimes you gotta play both sides

[u/PrinceZuzu09 → u/No_Mammoth_4945]

Memes op didnt like is code for memes those damn commie gays don’t like

[u/Wisley185 → u/No_Mammoth_4945]

I was so fricking confused on what any of this means. So it’s a person reposting a meme another person posted or reposting that repost and saying they liked it or saying the other person didn’t like it or saying they were wrong for liking it or not liking it, but then why did they post it in the first place, so who was it that’s disagreeing with the meme, the poster, or re-poster, or re-re-poster or whatever or whoever the heck else. Bro, what is going on with any of this =_=

[u/VegitoFusion → u/No_Mammoth_4945]

Very often this sub makes no sense because people (often me included) don’t understand what OP Vs OOP Vs OOOP is trying to relay as their message

[u/Tooma8_]

Now do one about circumcision

[u/smolgote → u/Tooma8_]

I want my foreskin back

[u/Professional-Arm3610 → u/smolgote]

I made a Mongolian dude laugh because I was ranting about circumcision and ended it with “I miss my foreskin bro”

[u/RammyJammy07 → u/smolgote]

Sorry mate, needed a midnight snack

[u/Talidel → u/RammyJammy07]

Grandad?

[u/qqapplestr → u/smolgote]

I want you to have your foreskin back.

[u/G3n3ricOne → u/smolgote]

I do too, pretty mad at my dad for getting it removed 😢

[u/RealChialike → u/smolgote]

i don’t

[u/Some1inreallife → u/Tooma8_]

Also, circumcision hurts way more than getting a tattoo. Even though they are both permanent, society has an age limit for one, but not the other. We need an age limit for both.

[u/mantisimmortal → u/Some1inreallife]

It shouldn't happen unless it's a medical condition. Removing foreskin removed THOUSANDS of nerves. Sex won't be nearly as good. Slept with both and uncut guys just are way more vocal.

[u/ShortThisFucker → u/mantisimmortal]

I’m circumcised and still very vocal. Some men are just quieter.

[u/-_nope_- → u/mantisimmortal]

Studies show that there's no difference in sensation. Anecdotally, as someone who had it done later in life for medical reasons, I also noticed no differnece in sensation.

Im not saying that circumcision should happen for non medical purposes, I dont think it should, but use real arguments, bodily autonomy, risk of infection etc. Not made up ones.

[u/Expendable_Red_Shirt → u/-_nope_-]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-male-circumcision/male-circumcision-tied-to-less-sexual-pleasure-idUSBRE91D1CO20130214

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17155977/

[u/TAPriceCTR → u/Tooma8_]

Happily! Minors (including infants) shouldn't be having their genitals mutilated.

[u/Objective-Sport-711 → u/Tooma8_]

[u/PointlessSpikeZero → u/Tooma8_]

I'm confused, is that supposed to be a retort? It's not like surgery is being done on children.

[u/Some_Hat-Wearing_Kid]

Truly an r/memesopdidnotlike moment

[u/Sad_Ad5368 → u/Some_Hat-Wearing_Kid]

Both of these subs suck. Fight me.

[u/sealionfriendrequiem → u/Sad_Ad5368]

"They're the same!" God I'm so fuckin tired of people saying dumb shit like this when comparing progressivism to nazism. FUCK OFF!!

[u/Sad_Ad5368 → u/sealionfriendrequiem]

I hate it when people use the term nazism to describe anything that isn’t left-wing. They just don’t want their kids to regret a lifelong and permanent decision. The problem is that they’re hypocrites and most of them go against their original words in different situations.

[u/TheRoyalKT → u/Sad_Ad5368]

You realize Nazis didn’t go straight from zero to gas chambers, right? They started with a lot of shouting in the streets, banning books (often about LGBT people specifically), and failing to violently overthrow the government. There are enough similarities to be worth pointing out. Think of it like saying “Hey, maybe you should stop walking toward that cliff before you go over the edge.”

[u/El-Carone-707 → u/Sad_Ad5368]

Tbf Republicans are currently using a lot of strategies from the fascism playbook

[u/HentaiEquality6 → u/Sad_Ad5368]

Then surely you can pull up articles or cases where children have not only regretted their decision but couldn’t transition back after gender affirming surgery instead of taking the moral high ground that doesn’t even exist for you, yes?

[u/HentaiEquality6 → u/Sad_Ad5368]

Lol bigotry funny haha vs. (coming off aggressively sometimes) don’t make jokes about bigotry,

Yes sure these are the same, well fucking done enlightened centrist

[u/burntgrilledcheese43]

Moral of story: give tattoos to children.

Edit: I'm not a transphobe. People of all ages deserve gender-affirming care.

[u/orangeibook → u/burntgrilledcheese43]

I mean, if we saw a mass trend of kids taking their own lives and/or committing self harm because they couldn’t get tattoos you bet they’d be lowering the age of it

Edit: also, in my country there’s not even a set law for minimum tattoo age, so you can totally get a tattoo at 14 as long as mom and dad take you

[u/HillarysBleachedBits → u/orangeibook]

Not if the kids are trans. I'm pretty sure right-wingers want trans kids to self-harm, that's why they're fighting so hard against giving them treatment.

[u/No_Wallaby_9464 → u/HillarysBleachedBits]

When I connected to the trans community the second time, the general thought was that if you made it to 30 years old, it was a significant achievement.

I'd been battling suicidal ideation for years, since being denied access to testosterone. I was no longer able to feel anything but pain. I knew I wouldn't make it to 28 without treating the gender dysphoria.

The first time I wanted to kill myself was 2nd grade. We were studying sea anemones, cursive, and subtraction...and I was trying to treat being queer with prayer. I heard if you kill yourself you can't be buried inside the church graveyard and couldn't imagine adding that shame to my parents' grief.

[u/Halcyon_Rein → u/burntgrilledcheese43]

Idk..

[u/King_Killem_Jr → u/burntgrilledcheese43]

If we're being logically consistent with circumcision and gender affirming care then parents should be allowed to give kids tattoos. The real problem is that people have inconsistent ethics based on how they feel. (I'm in no way claiming to be totally immune to this)

[u/No_Wallaby_9464 → u/King_Killem_Jr]

The real problem is that people believe you can get surgery to transition as a child. You can only get hormone blockers.

If you're looking at it from the standpoint of being able to do whatever the hell you want with your body, yes. But if you're looking at it from the standpoint of what is healthy and medically necessary, circumcision is justifiable to treat medical conditions and so are gender reassignment surgeries and so is medical tattooing.

Let's be honest though, none of this is about that.

It's about using the ick feeling people get thinking about trans people to get them to vote.

[u/dayfreeguy]

Thank you for reposting this post for 20th time

[u/[deleted] → u/dayfreeguy]

Is that why it’s getting ratioed so hard or is Reddit starting to become a little more normal?

[u/smoldeer9810]

That's anti tattoo

[u/Nex-o]

Bro almost NOBODY does this, nobody has a 3 year old and just forces them to change their gender, schizo conservatives at their finest

[u/DwarvenSupremacist → u/Nex-o]

It’s not supposed to be a 3 yo, it’s supposed to be a child. People absolutely do make 12 yo hop on fertility blockers and HRT and permanently fuck up their hormonal development

[u/chasetheball7 → u/DwarvenSupremacist]

Puberty blockers don't permanently fuck up anything, and no child as young as 12 is undergoing HRT.

[u/Relative-Mistake-527 → u/chasetheball7]

yeah like what do these people think happens when you unblock the puberty blockers lmao

[u/PockyPunk → u/Relative-Mistake-527]

That is precisely why having a “conversation” with people like this is pointless. We all know they’re just transphobic. The two options are you know you’re trans so start HRT or you’re cis an just go with the flow. Ether way you’re going through puberty eventually an some cis kids hit puberty late anyway. The real reason is they just don’t what trans kid and adult to exist. Well we do and we have for as long as recorded history, so deal with it.

[u/Mountain-Most8186 → u/PockyPunk]

Their media has convinced them of so much crazy shit.

[u/HalogenReddit → u/chasetheball7]

Actually, you’d be wrong on that. There are plenty of people who get on puberty blockers as early as age 8 or 9. This still doesn’t change the fact that puberty blockers don’t fuck up anything, and the vast majority of these children continue to transition all the way into adulthood with no regrets. But nobody’s forcing kids to do HRT.

I’d like to mention that I know someone who’s been transitioning since age 9. They are 17 now, and still committed to the transition.

[u/chasetheball7 → u/HalogenReddit]

I... said that kids AREN'T being forced into HRT. You're telling me I'm wrong and then saying the exact same thing I said back at me lmao.

[u/HalogenReddit → u/chasetheball7]

no child as young as young as 12 is undergoing HRT.

That was the focus of my response. Sorry for the misunderstanding

[u/Kaiju_Cat → u/DwarvenSupremacist]

Look I know someone told you that but literally nothing you just said is true.

[u/DeltaZ33 → u/DwarvenSupremacist]

They don’t “make” them, it’s a treatment suggested only in severe cases at the recommendation of a qualified medical professional. No kid is getting dragged into the gender clinic like it’s a haircut they don’t wan’t, its the final step in an often years-long medical evaluation.

[u/PoemDapper7551 → u/Nex-o]

You can't say nobody because there are documented cases of people doing this shit to small children.

It's like a right winger saying nobody is a Nazi. Yes, there are some and a few rotten eggs ruin the bunch.

Leftists are now associated with chopping off prepubescent weiners. Enjoy

[u/SukiGD → u/PoemDapper7551]

How many people do you think (successfully or not because there’s no way any clinic would do that) got their kid to go in for SRS because they thought or wanted the kid to be trans?

And how many people, comparatively are nazis or like nazi ideals?

…and why are an equal amount of political comics made about each topic?

[u/Nex-o → u/PoemDapper7551]

Because of your delusional agenda, nazism is significantly more common in the right than trans people giving children HRT. You simply find one strawman and run with it when there are literally nazi protests in florida.

[u/The_Sherminator_850 → u/PoemDapper7551]

By that logic, would you say all right wingers are associated with Nazis?

[u/grundlefuck → u/PoemDapper7551]

Link or just we call bullshit. The cases where this happen are because there are medical abnormalities OR botched circumsisions (sp?).

[u/Shelfurkill → u/PoemDapper7551]

Why are you so fixated on prepubescent genitalia?

[u/DestinySimpsAreSoy → u/PoemDapper7551]

Ah, the classic dumbfuck centrist take. Never gets old.

Aaand he blocked me after saying some stupid shit about genital manipulation. These phobes have paper-thin skin.

[u/Cela_Rifi → u/PoemDapper7551]

Share 10 cases of that happening.

LOL getting blocked for asking for a source is hilarious.

[u/PointlessSpikeZero → u/PoemDapper7551]

The only prepubescent weiners being mutilated are because of right wingers doing circumcision.

[u/I_Put_Soap_Up_My_Ass → u/PoemDapper7551]

https://preview.redd.it/q4h47gjql8pb1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73f8ef6f0944f23b9311ff6c580baf46c363baa4

[u/incumseiveable → u/PoemDapper7551]

Lmao, it's crazy how rightie whackos like you don't understand what gender affirming care is.

Easily verifiable information loser.

[u/caseycubs098 → u/PoemDapper7551]

Actually literally nobody does this. There is not a single case of prepubescent weiner chopping.

[u/MrGoatReal]

Could I get the number for that gender affirming clinic, I need to confirm some things

[u/NightShadow2001 → u/MrGoatReal]

Uhhh i don’t have the number but trust me it exists and uhhh stop grooming my kids!

[u/Useful_radio2 → u/NightShadow2001]

better hide yo kids

[u/ambroseblackwood]

You do know that kids under a certain age can only transition socially and maybe get hormone blockers (which are reversible). No one's performing any surgeries on minors, not until they're around the age of 18. Stop making shit up

[u/Additional-Grand9089 → u/ambroseblackwood]

Fake news: " AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The map shows which states have passed or are considering anti-transgender laws. Children as young as 3 are not qualified to undergo operations to change their gender, medical experts say. Nationally-recognized medical guidelines recommend patients be at least 15 years old to receive the surgeries, and only then in special circumstances. "

Toddlers can’t get gender-affirming surgeries, despite claims | AP News

[u/KinkyBoots120 → u/ambroseblackwood]

Just how reversible are those hormone blockers bud

[u/C4rnivous_C0rvus → u/KinkyBoots120]

They pause hormones not stop them entirely ☠️

[u/ambroseblackwood → u/KinkyBoots120]

you stop taking them and everything starts working how it used to, simple right

[u/UneSoggyCroissant → u/ambroseblackwood]

You can 100% permanently fuck your hormones up with them.

[u/caseycubs098 → u/UneSoggyCroissant]

People have been using them for a long time to stop early puberty in children and nobody cared. But as soon as trans people used them they became extremely dangerous and irreversible

[u/rohtvak → u/ambroseblackwood]

They are not reversible. If you don’t believe me, look at the cases of chronic man-face of the f-to-m who regret it and become detransitioners. I’m certain if they could reverse it or do anything about it they would lmao.

[u/ambroseblackwood → u/rohtvak]

i think you're confusing hrt with puberty blockers

[u/LocalGothTwink → u/ambroseblackwood]

This is what happens when someone doesn't bother to research something for themself and just relies on whatever people tell them.

"Trans bad? Oh shit, trans must be bad then."

[u/Meandthebois0]

You guys do know they are doing this on purpose to spark your posts right?

[u/Bonded_With_CumSpren → u/Meandthebois0]

And? Isn't /r/nahOPwasrightfuckthis about making fun of stupid people? This post is about making fun of stupid people. So it fits? If people upvote it, people upvote it.

Being intentionally stupid, is still being stupid.

[u/Bladeofwar94 → u/Bonded_With_CumSpren]

Awww man they really got us with the lols by being the most reprehensible people possible.

[u/KingQdawg1995]

I think someone should post this again next week

[u/owlBdarned → u/KingQdawg1995]

Why wait so long?

[u/nernnnnnne]

My favorite thing about all this is that even the YOUNGEST people getting gender affirming are still closer to preteen and its puberty blockers. I know girls who got boob jobs at 14. I am not even shitting you.

[u/WM-010]

Naturally, even in this focken comment section there are people who do no know what "gender affirming care" means.

Let me focken explain it for the really slow mfs who are being deliberately obtuse.

Jess (formerly Jeff) wears skirts now, Jack (formerly Jill) has short hair now. That's it. Trying to make this out as the collapse of society by being deliberately obtuse and merely serves to show that you're a bigoted fuckwit.

[u/RandomCheeseThing]

We’ve already seen this meme on this subreddit get a new one

[u/Plopop87]

Transphobia? On r/memesopdidntlike? Surely you jest, I've never seen that before

[u/cold_blue_light_]

The meme is about a straw man argument that a lot of people don’t realize is a straw man. That’s why we don’t like it.

[u/No_Wallaby_9464 → u/cold_blue_light_]

What? Are you kidding? By age 6 I had transitioned to male and back to female and back to male 15 times! I've had hundreds of gender reassignment surgeries. Also, I don't use birth control. I just have abortions. I've had about 5,000 abortions.

[u/Spicey_dicey_Artist]

I thought gender reassignment treatment doesn’t start till puberty since before that time kids, girl or boy, develop almost the same? And if it’s just hormone therapy and blockers then it’s completely reversible?

[u/hokie4566 → u/Spicey_dicey_Artist]

That's correct, but anti-trans extremists won't leave the kids alone. Some states have even banned gender affirming care for minors despite the fact that denying children medically essential healthcare is child abuse

[u/Spicey_dicey_Artist → u/hokie4566]

I have read about that unfortunately. Anti-trans extremists really do seem to want to kill trans-kids, though a lot of the same people seem to also just want to kill kids in general too.

[u/DrManntisToboggan]

Conservative ideology is quite literally making shit up

[u/Anxiety-Queen69]

Could be the parent getting the care, or that kid is just very short and like 16

[u/Dorigan23]

you dont have to platform transphobia

[u/aninsomniac_]

OP is a repost bot

[u/EvilNoobHacker]

Can we stop reposting the same shit

[u/HillarysBleachedBits]

Tattoos are too permanent for right-wingers to allow for children.
Su-cide is fine though.

[u/wastinglittletime]

Classic conservatives.

Blood red-faced screaming about made up situations that never happen and never will.

Being conservative basically means rejecting all of reality and accepting a constant barrage of lies.

[u/RosietintGlasses]

Jesus Christ. Not this meme again... tbh, the character design is pretty fab if a bit simple, too bad it's a hate comic...

[u/SeraphsWrath → u/RosietintGlasses]

I wanna see someone draw the woman bashing a transphobe over the head.

Make it even more iconic, have her bashing a NeoCon transphobe over the head with an American flag with, "Death to Traitors" written on it in Trans-flag colored letters.

[u/RosietintGlasses → u/SeraphsWrath]

If I can muster up the energy, I might do something like that. Although I been having a hard time finishing any art as of late.

[u/Fatefire]

Since when are liberals against tattoos

[u/ThyOfThee_]

It’s people who have no idea was being trans is like make these, prolly never even met a trans person/kid

[u/SteveTheManager]

Damn, another transphobic meme from r/memesopdidntlike. I wonder if they are gonna ever stop posting those memes.

[u/supersecret75]

a person that age would be able to reverse both. Cause this comic is a falsehood.

[u/Bardivan]

i have never gotten a tattoo or have changed my gender. You know what i do about it? i don’t harass people about it, because someone getting a tattoo or changing their gender has nothing to do with my decision to not do those things.

[u/Stoutyeoman]

The one thing I've noticed all people who are against gender affirming care is that none of them actually know what it is.

[u/LiciniusRex]

I duck ng I ish it was that easy. 9 year waiting list

[u/FutureFool]

Do they not know what “affirming” means?

[u/Daryno90 → u/FutureFool]

They probably do but most of them don’t want trans people to become more socially acceptable so they poison the well with terms like castration to invoke disgust on people

[u/JSmith666 → u/Daryno90]

Thats no different than using the word affirming. People do it all the time with agendas/ Pro-Choice/Pro-life is a perfect example. The phrase things in a way to evoke an emotion.

[u/[deleted]]

Reddit is becoming a right wing cesspool real quickly

[u/The1stHorsemanX → u/[deleted]]

Reddit is a lot of things, but "right-wing cesspool" is not one of them lol. Saying something even mildly right-wing almost anywhere gets you downvoted into oblivion and possibly banned. Yes right-wing people exist on the platform, but reddit is and always will be extremely and overwhelmingly left-wing.

[u/AdamNoKnee]

You know your target audience is full of room temp IQ troglodytes when you have to explain the joke by putting “Your life changing care!” Sign so that the slow people understand what’s being said and can be outraged by it

[u/oh_diggity → u/AdamNoKnee]

IQ doesn’t have anything to do with willful ignorance and this kind of “conservative dumb” hubris always makes me roll my eyes.

[u/CamyBoy10833]

Also tattoos aren’t even permanent so not only are they transphobic but they’re stupid too.

[u/Cjs_Coop_YT]

I like how the meme doesn't even work. You can stop hrt pretty painlessly, can't really undo a tattoo that easily.

Unless they're implying that you can just get walk in srs

[u/lifth3avy84]

How the fuck are we supposed to have a civil discourse with these fuckheads? All I hear are a bunch of centrists saying we need to meet in the middle, but I want to be so much farther from the middle of these greasy doorknobs. This is the shit that moves me further and further left.

[u/butternut-soup]

Don’t people realize that “gender affirming care” also extends to counseling, suicide prevention, diagnostic testing (physical and mental), mental health treatment, safety for abused children, contraceptive care, sexual healthcare, advocacy services, etc. etc. etc.

[u/Optimal_Temporary_19]

Someone once observed "they attack transpeople because they know that transpeople cannot just stop being trans". Sort of like being attacked for an immutable characteristic. I think about this a lot. And this meme did a good job reminding me of it.

[u/Daryno90]

How are people stupid enough to believe that this is how it works. From my understanding, it involves a lot of psychological evaluations and talking to plenty of doctors to make sure that this is the appropriate course of action. Also no kid that young is getting surgery done on them, at most they just socially transition (basically wearing clothes that match their gender identity and changing their name and using their preferred pronouns)

[u/DrAstralis → u/Daryno90]

see covid: thousands of people who barely got out of high school (assuming they even maanged that) trying to tell everyone else what "the truth" is regardless of actual trained professionals disagreeing with them at every level.

"well I think..." who fucking cares you're not qualified to have an opinion on other peoples medical care....

[u/ET_Phone_Homer_Simp]

This meme is transphobic.

Several trans advocates agree that gender affirmation surgery should take place when the child’s amygdala and frontal lobe is developed enough to make peace and not regret the decision of what’s usually an irreversible gender affirming operation for trans-women.

[u/No_Wallaby_9464 → u/ET_Phone_Homer_Simp]

I listen to doctors and scientists. Not people ("trans advocates" lol) who are paid by Republicans to pretend to care about trans people.

Research shows that children who identify as a different gender at an early age and consistently identify as that gender over time will still have that gender in adulthood.

At present, you cannot transition medically until you are an adult. If you are legally able to vote and go to war at 18, you sure as hell are capable of deciding whether you can take estrogen or testosterone.

Trans advocates. What a joke.

[u/Blue_Moon913]

Brainwashed right wingers buying into the fearmongering propaganda that “gender-affirming care” is interchangeable with “sex-reassignment surgery.” The surgery is only one possible form of GA care.

Wearing different clothes, going by a new name, or even just calling someone by their preferred pronouns are all forms of gender-affirming care that are 100% reversible if the person later on realizes they’re not actually trans.

“But doctors are pushing kids to jump straight to the surgeries!” Gee, I wonder why (a small handful of) doctors in a capitalist society would be pushing patients to go for the most expensive option…

[u/LocalGothTwink]

Blockers and hormones are not the same thing

Blockers don't do long term damage in most cases.

This is the reality of the situation. Let me repeat: general speaking, BLOCKERS ARE NOT DANGEROUS.

[u/voluptuous_component]

The republican party is a fascist death cult.

[u/Gnomepill]

This subreddit is terrible

[u/Sunyata8thousand]

Tattoos are literally less reversible than puberty blockers

[u/KazeoLion]

In what fucking world are there gender affirming care clinics just out in the open on the street where you can walk right in

[u/GoldEstablishment393]

It's so weird how they make shit up just to try and justify their bigotry.

[u/julius711]

Not this round of ping pong again

[u/crazygamer4life]

I don't get the transphobia? I mean is it not irreversible and are there not tons of people on YouTube with their stories of regret? Detransitioners exist ya know.

[u/Newgidoz → u/crazygamer4life]

Healthcare isn't comparable to tattoos, and nobody that young is getting irreversible treatment

[u/montex66]

I'd like conservatives interview the mommy that took her 5 year old son in for gender assignment surgery. Of course, such a person does not exist but finding an actor to pretend to have done so would be entertaining.

[u/Kycklinggull1]

This isn’t even transphobia this is just straight up wrong

[u/bluefishegg → u/Kycklinggull1]

How is spreading false narratives about trans people to vilify them and diminishing their existence not transphobia?

[u/FreelancerMO]

No it isn’t.

[u/blessyourheart16]

If you think this is “transphobia” you’re literally a groomer dude, parents who let their young child transition have a special place in hell. Kids under 16-18 should be far away from any of this shit and be socialized normally until they’re somewhat sound in their actual identity and can make the decision themselves. Playing around with a persons extremely malleable developmental psychology and acting like its going to be completely harmless is either incredibly stupid or incredibly evil.

[u/CobraColin]

Nah man. Letting a child get gender care is insane.

[u/Purple-Caps → u/CobraColin]

Do you know how it works?

[u/Bdilla810]

You can remove a tattoo.

[u/No_Wallaby_9464 → u/Bdilla810]

You can change your name back. You can buy a different wardrobe. You can go back to living like the gender you were assigned at birth. You can stop taking hormone blockers.

Children don't get cross sex hormones or surgery. They don't even need hormone blockers until they begin to hit puberty.

[u/Ok_Suggestion_9561]

I regret my tattoos not transitioning hahaha

[u/Golden_Evelyn]

Most hrt is completely reversible though 💀

[u/Anna-mator]

Really glad to see people calling this out for what it is

[u/FBI_surveillances]

Tell that to a girl who made the wrong choice at 13 and now has a beard and can't reproduce. Many who had surgeries done started out with just puberty blockers and hormones. The point is that a kid is not intelligent enough to make these decisions. If they mature enough, many will be spared from permanent physical and psychological damage.

[u/Newgidoz → u/FBI_surveillances]

Can you describe the permanent damage a trans person might experience if denied gender affirming care during their adolescence?

[u/HMNI_Adam]

Ok can I ask how this is trans phobia? Genuinely. All I see is a criticism of the young kids thing, which I get is something the movement doesn’t want criticized, but how is it blatant transphobia? It seems like… something you can disagree with, but how is it actual phobia?

[u/Newgidoz → u/HMNI_Adam]

Conservatives fearmonger about young kids being coerced into transition as a means to intentionally misrepresent what gender affirming care for minors is so they can get it banned altogether

[u/strayvolting]

I swear, Conservatives favorite pasttime is imagining scenarios that never happen and then getting frothingly angry about them.

[u/bigbootylover786]

I mean pumping a child full of hormones is pretty permanent

[u/DominilocO]

I only see hypocrisy

[u/DrunkandKrunk]

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[u/TAPriceCTR]

Based on the people who think this is transphobic, I proudly identify as a misoistaphobe... based on definitions, not so much.

[u/TheCuriousReaper]

To be fair, I do think there should be a minimum age limit on when these types of procedures can be done. Kind of like tattoos and drinking age limits. Allow a person get to an adult state of mind where they can rationally make the decision to transition.

[u/Newgidoz → u/TheCuriousReaper]

What "procedures"? Gender affirming care is a ton of different things that are appropriate at different ages

There's no medical transition available to someone before the onset of puberty

And once you reach that point, you might only get blockers to delay irreversible changes and buy more time to understand yourself

Hormone therapy would only come in mid to late adolescence

[u/KinkyBoots120]

I don’t see a problem with this one

[u/Electronic_Fly_8008]

Eh as a trans person I kinda agree that gender affirming care should be done as an adult . Atleast 16 with parent supervision

[u/Newgidoz → u/Electronic_Fly_8008]

As a trans person , trans youth should be able to avoid going through unwanted irreversible changes that make gender dysphoria far worse and far harder to treat

[u/Electronic_Fly_8008 → u/Newgidoz]

I said what I said, 16 more than adequate to reverse effects and transition successfully.

[u/snowyfemboy]

it's not "transphobic" to acknowledge that kids should not be going and having transgender surgery/procedures or have that pushed on them , that is not something a kid even actually comprehends , especially when they have not developed sexually , how could they even comprehend that

[u/Newgidoz → u/snowyfemboy]

It's transphobic to conflate age appropriate gender affirming care with things like surgery, and act like it's pushed on kids when in reality it's the opposite and parents try their hardest to deny trans kids the care they need

[u/Medicine_Man86]

Based.

[u/Open_Cheek6074]

Good

[u/Keeter_Skeeter]

Nah OP was right, fuck this

[u/Desperadorder99]

Blatant *joke" * bro

It's fucking political humor, move past it or I'm just gonna funfollow, that's to say unfollow you and find something more fun to do.

No one appreciates being gaslighted or strawmanned lmao, you just either start and/or keep a chain of bullshit posts going, which now that I think about it, was the entire point of making this subreddit in the first place. Why was I following you again? I think I saw something funny, but I regret it after too many posts like this one. Kekw.

[u/asjitshot]

It's right though.

[u/globglothrowawayabor]

How is it blatant transphobia? It's the same thing... permanently changing one's body that someone may regret later...

[u/Newgidoz → u/globglothrowawayabor]

Because healthcare isn't comparable to tattoos

Hope that helps

[u/YOREUGLEH]

but its right tho

[u/Newgidoz → u/YOREUGLEH]

Healthcare isn't comparable to a tattoo, actually

[u/FBI_surveillances]

By the time someone wants to stop taking hormone therapy, much of the damage has already been done. And why would you be allowed to take that risk at many times such a young age? The answer is that kids (especially those who come from an unstable upbringing) are impressionable, and the surgeries are expensive. Once you've destroyed your body you are screwed for the rest of your life, and the docters get paid. Gender "affirmation" as as much Healthcare as the East is the West.

[u/Purple-Caps → u/FBI_surveillances]

The effects of puberty blockers can be reversed by literally just taking the puberty blockers away. This step is used way before the child is put on hormone therapy and isn't even the first step in the process. The number of people who go through the entire transitioning process and then regret it is tiny. More people end up regretting elective plastic surgery than transitioning. Why is this an issue?

[u/--_enzo542_--]

How is this transphobia?

[u/ApprehensiveIce4810]

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[u/Barack-0b4ma]

That is a child. “Changing” their gender at a young age is literal abuse

[u/shikajaru]

daily reminder there is no such thing as trans youth 😂

[u/Upset_Grade_4271]

Any criticism of trans movement just gets regarded as transphobic. It's like watching the medevil practice of punishing blasphemers get revived. You can't say anything negative whatsoever about any of the lefts policies without getting accused of just outright hating whatever group. The meme makes a good point

[u/Newgidoz → u/Upset_Grade_4271]

Can you describe any other necessary medical treatment you would equate with tattoos?

[u/Upset_Grade_4271 → u/Newgidoz]

Its not a necessary medical treatment to chop your balls off. Just like getting fake breast implants isnt a necessary medical treatment. Tattoos is a 1 to 1 comparison. Just because your child feels like a person who should have 666 tatted on his forehead doesn't mean that your minor child has the capacity to make decisions like that.

[u/Newgidoz → u/Upset_Grade_4271]

You think young trans people are getting their balls chopped off??

[u/Toobsnake]

I feel bad for anyone who finds this offensive or controversial

[u/DalinarsDingleberry]

Not transphobia.

[u/DM_Me_Ur_Roms → u/DalinarsDingleberry]

It's clearly agaisnt trans people. It's not even hiding it. Just say you hate trans people.

[u/MasterPunmanship → u/DM_Me_Ur_Roms]

It's only against trans people if the creator thought overall that gender affirming care = any type of specialized support for trans people. A lot of people don't know that gender affirming care can also mean positive exploration of identity without hormones or even necessarily transitioning socially. There can be a broad range of supports. It is quite possible (and my bias to see the best in others is to add "and most likely") that the poster doesn't know that there is a broad spectrum of gender affirming care and that it's harmful to outright reject any such care. Instead, I imagine they are specifically targeting hormone treatment, which is a more nuanced debate and it's worth having discussions about what a teen can consent to when there is limited data on the risks and some medical associations have not approved some hormone treatment because of the lack of sufficient data to date.

I think it's more important to engage in a discussion than label others prematurely. Otherwise, nobody will actually want to listen and people who label others prematurely actually contribute to the problem through their impact.

[u/RawPersona]

This isn't transphobia, it's the truth. Just because it's exposing a truth you don't want to admit doesn't mean you can attempt to label it as something negative and get others riled up against it. You eventually have to grow up and learn to accept reality.

[u/Newgidoz → u/RawPersona]

It's not exposing any truth, it's trivializing necessary healthcare for gender dysphoria as being as unnecessary as a tattoo, and something people push on children on a whim

[u/Raphael_Stormer → u/RawPersona]

This is transphobia. The message and intention being transphobic. You just believe transphobic is right and justified, and your free to think it’s the truth.

[u/DM_Me_Ur_Roms → u/RawPersona]

Getting a hair cut, changing clothes, and going by a different name isn't permanent. Just a heads up.

[u/MasterPunmanship → u/RawPersona]

I think there might be a miscommunication of what gender affirming care is here. What is your definition?

[u/Kind_Tie8349]

I mean it’s not trans phobic tho it’s pointing out that some people are quick to label a child as transgender and put them through permanent transitioning when the kid could just be interested in things outside of their gender norm which is a real thing happening in our society that nobody wants to talk about

and before you try to label me as trans phobic or homophobic or whatever I’m bisexual I’ve dated trans people my best friend was trans and my other best friend is also dating a trans person and even some of them admit this is a real trend in our society now

[u/Newgidoz → u/Kind_Tie8349]

it’s pointing out that some people are quick to label a child as transgender and put them through permanent transitioning

This is transphobic fearmongering

[u/Kind_Tie8349 → u/Newgidoz]

It’s not though ? If that’s the case then stranger danger is teaching your kid to be afraid of the world i’m not trying to specify a specific group as doing it

Pointing out an actual issue is not me trying to fear monger

[u/_Zodex_ → u/Newgidoz]

But it’s literally happened.

[u/Kmart_Stalin → u/Newgidoz]

Pretty sure r/whitepeopletwitter wants this.

[u/OM3-]

blatant child abuse.