r/facepalm • u/iFoegot • 15d ago
A passenger opened the emergency door of Flight OZ8124 carrying 194 passengers when it was in midair. Some passengers fainted and some experienced breathing difficulties, but all survived. The man was arrested after plane landed safely. šµāš·āš“āš¹āšŖāšøāš¹ā
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u/SingleSpeed27 15d ago
Iād assume this man wonāt be allowed on the airplane next time.
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u/wbsgrepit 14d ago
Flight attendant: āSir are you willing and able to operate the door in case of an emergency?ā
Passenger: āmore than willing and ableā
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u/313802 14d ago
YOU WANT I SHOULD OPERATE IT NOW
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u/NsDoValkyrie 14d ago
I really like that this is just a definitive statement and not a question.
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u/Assortedark74 14d ago
Guy: Iām self taught in passenger door opening
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u/coconuty04 14d ago
"Self trained in the proper use and handling of emergency avionics equipment, resulting in a 0% loss of life or equipment during critical operations
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u/HavingNotAttained 15d ago
He might be, if he sends a box of pears and a really heartfelt-sounding note to the airline's CEO.
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u/MoistyWiener 15d ago
Speaking from experience? (Unless itās a reference I donāt get)
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u/RaisingCanes4POTUS 15d ago
Itās a Korean culture thing. We send boxes of pears as gifts
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u/sweetwilds 15d ago
We need to extend this to America. I would love to get a box of pears as a gift!!
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u/Alan_Smithee_ 15d ago
You have to fuck up a plane first.
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u/jophats 15d ago
āI didnāt do anything, bro! No one died, bro. Donāt touch me, Iām not arrested, bro, I didnāt do anything! It was a joke!ā
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u/Alan_Smithee_ 14d ago
āBrandon, Hillary, and Obama did it!ā
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u/spillblood 14d ago
You forgot Hunter lol.
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u/Alan_Smithee_ 14d ago
No, Hunter doesnāt do anything. Itās his laptop, and his monster Dong.
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u/bdbdbd99 15d ago
I've fucked up a plane's bathroom pretty badly... does that count?
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u/alargersmallhelping 15d ago
Itās a thing for me Harry and Davidās.
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u/Kindly_Bored 14d ago
Ngl, I'm a sucker for some Harry and David's. Will 100% accept apology.
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u/AzraelChaosEater 14d ago
Is the fruit interchangeable though? Don't get me wrong pears are nice but have y'all considered plums recently?
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u/supresmooth 15d ago
We got some of the best pears of my life as a Christmas gift from a regular customer at the coffee shop I worked at. That lead me to gifting those same pears to a friend for Christmas years later.
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u/PossessedToSkate 15d ago
those same pears ... years later
Eww.
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u/supresmooth 14d ago
Yes, we pooped them out and shaped the poop into pear-shapes and gifted the poop pears.
They were Harry & David pears and you can order them online
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u/TheGuyYouHeardAbout 15d ago
I've given and received a box of pears as an American. Though it isn't a common thing.
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u/ManicPixieOldMaid 15d ago
What about dried persimmons? I saw that in a kdrama once and I really want to try one!
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u/RisingPhoenix5271 14d ago
Yes people do this. Any table fruit really. Grapefruit, oranges, those are good as well. Itās even better when you grew the fruit tree yourself in your yard and you give the best ones to the person.
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u/bobarley 14d ago
I assume that every person on that plan got to punch him in the face as they left.
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u/sanddryer 15d ago
Well have to sit in the middle seat of the exit row instead of the window as his penalty
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Lmao assuming he isn't charged with terrorism or something and thrown in a jail for the rest of his life.
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u/OrionTales1 14d ago
Did anyone thought, the pressure would have sucked people out of the plane?
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u/mo-noob 14d ago
The plane was close to landing so the outside pressure was not so different from cabin pressure. That is why the door opened. If it was above 10,000 feet it would have not opened without depressurizing the cabin.
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u/bubblesound_modular 14d ago
also above 10K ft and the door would not have been able to be opened at all. they can only open when the air pressure in and out is fairly equal
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u/TheCosmicPopcorn 14d ago
Ah that was my doubt, I was like, this man is superhuman, how on earth did he achieve that
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u/Rdan5112 14d ago
They were within a few thousand feet off the ground. There was no pressure difference. That's why he was able to open the door.
It was windy and loud; but that's it.
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u/iFoegot 15d ago
This happened in South Korea earlier today. The flight was from Jeju airport to Daegu airport. News report: BBC.
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u/snakepatay 15d ago
I thought it was impossible because of the pressure while in the air?! this is crazy!!
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u/Mean_Baker9931 15d ago
At altitude sure.
But this was at 250M. So pressure was equalized between the outside and the interior.290
u/dumpmaster42069 15d ago
The cabin prepessurizes .5 psi when the power comes up for takeoff. Should still be quite difficult. Half pound doesnāt sound like much, but itās ~1200 square inches
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u/olivegardengambler 15d ago
Wait, I thought that the emergency exit doors on an airplane open outwards. That means if you pull the latch, you have an extra 600 lb of force wanting to push that door out.
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u/No-Significance1488 15d ago
Most of the time they open inwards first, even if they go up or out.
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u/HighAltitudeBrake 15d ago
depends on the manufacturer. Boeing is like that with their plug style doors, but the airbus a319/320 is not, those doors just hinge out if memory serves, its been a while. worked as an A&P mech for a few years in my 20s
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u/LtVich 14d ago
It's a common misconception that Airbus and B777/787 doors aren't plug type, but they actually are. They open upwards then outwards which still achieves the same goal but without the whole inward moving part.
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u/Snapstromegon 15d ago
Yes and no. You always have to pull them in a little bit, but then they shift and move outwards. This is for the door mechanism to "fail safe" which in case of an airplane at altitude is to keep the door shut. You can see it in this training video https://youtu.be/IB8Ne3Vq-2c That short moment of lever pulling has a very minimal inward movement. It's even more clear here: https://youtu.be/VOb3RojhHkU
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u/Honest-Mall-8721 15d ago
No, in general emergency exits open inward. Partially a safety feature to stop things like this.
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u/trimbandit 15d ago
Some passengers fainted and some experienced breathing difficulties
If that is the case (250m), why would this happen? I have been in small planes at 10000 feet or less with the door open and there should be no issue with breathing unless I am missing something.
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u/Matsisuu 15d ago
Maybe got scared, panic attack etc., or speed affected pressure.
Edit: Or health issues.
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u/TN_Runner 15d ago
yeah, someone opens the door on my plane in flight I'm absolutely going to have breathing difficulties and/or faint lol.
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u/Words_are_Windy 14d ago
Especially because most of the people in the plane won't be able to immediately identify what happened, just that there's currently a large hole in the fuselage that shouldn't be there and wind whipping around at a couple hundred mph.
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u/OddResponsibility565 15d ago
You ever blow across the top of a water bottle and the water comes up and out? This action, same with that door, creates a vacuum in the enclosed space so it is very likely the occupants were struggling to breathe with the vacuum created by air rushing past the opening at 300mph
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u/ErieSpirit 14d ago
the occupants were struggling to breathe with the vacuum created by air rushing past the opening at 300mph.
I don't mean to quibble here, but they were 700 feet up about to land, so their air speed would have been about half that. I mean, that is still like a CAT 5 hurricane though, pretty violent. Still, it would not have created a vacuum in the plane enough to cause difficulty breathing.
Now, on to your water bottle analogy relative to a vacuum being created in the plane. That might have an effect with a water bottle because you are accelerating the air with your mouth relative to the surrounding air. What was going on outside the plane door would be very complex based on diverted airflow around the plane. The effective air pressure outside that door could have been higher than inside the plane. We don't know. Extending your theory would mean a car driving down say the Autobahn with a window open would suffocate the driver.
Another note, the SOP for evacuating smoke from an airplane cabin involves opening a door. The procedure is to make sure the fire is out, descend below 10,000ft, equalize cabin pressure, disarm emergency slide, Crack open a door or two. Obviously if this would cause enough of a vacuum to hurt people, it would not be an SOP. Also, I don't recall the crew of the DB Cooper plane having breathing issues, or skydivers.
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u/FantasticPear 15d ago
I most certainly would have fainted and/or had a massive panic attack.
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u/Tay74 14d ago
You know when you're in a car with the window open, and you're going fast down a motorway or whatever, and you get absolutely blasted in the face by the wind coming in? Imaging that but waaaayyyy worse. If you were right in the blast zone breathing that high velocity air would be pretty difficult
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u/LostWorldliness9664 15d ago
You're missing the fact people come in all shapes, sizes and .. importantly .. ages. Just within 20-30 people you're likely to find one with asthma for example. CLPD. An elderly person on oxygen. There is huge variety in human life bub.
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u/thenightgaunt 15d ago
The plane was only 250m from ground and was slowing to land. I wonder if that's why it worked? Commercial jets are usually at 500+ MPH, but they drop down to only 150 MPH when landing.
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u/BastardsCryinInnit 15d ago
It was only 250m from the ground coming into land so not a 35,000ft type pressurised situation, and this Airbus has semi plug doors.
With a strong rotation of the door handle in the direction of the arrow, yeah, you prolly could open it.
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u/navigationallyaided 15d ago
The emergency slides would have deployed almost instaneously as well. Airbuses have a separate mechanism to arm the slides. But the Boeing 737 - itās the only plane where the cabin crew needs to manually operate a firing pin to arm/disarm the slides before opening/after closing the doors.
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u/ParamedicCareful3840 15d ago
They were nearly landed, so no pressurization at such a low altitude
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u/entredeuxeaux 15d ago
New fear unlocked
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u/CurlyJester23 15d ago
And another reminder to keep my seatbelt on even if itās āsafeā to be off. You just donāt know what will happen.
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u/DoggishPrince 14d ago
The door wonāt be able to open if youāre at altitude, this was very low
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u/dakkadakkapewpewboom 14d ago
"Wear your seat belt, even when the sign is not lit"
Going to side eye all the door passengers now.
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u/HolographicMochi 15d ago
Same, I liked picking the emergency row for the extra leg room and no one reclining into my face. I would not want a front row seat to doom.
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u/Human_Fucker69420 15d ago
Gladly no one got thrown out. How tf did he managed to open it
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u/HeroDoge154 15d ago
The plane was only 250m off the ground. Planes cruise around 10,000 meters off the ground. When at cruising altitudes, the pressure difference from outside the plane would make it virtually impossible to open the door. For the same reason, no one was sucked out of the plane here due to the lack of pressure difference.
Have a feeling this passenger wont be on another plane anytime soon...
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u/coffeepizzacake 14d ago
Do the cabinās emergency doors open inward instead of outward? Iām trying but I canāt imagine why else it wouldnāt be easy to open the door into the lower pressure air
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u/testicularmeningitis 14d ago
They fully open outward, but the doors are designed in such a way that they must be pulled slightly inward before they will release and open outward. This makes opening them mid flight impossible (except in a case such as this when the plane hasn't reached a sufficient altitude)
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u/Smrtypntz 14d ago
Exactly. This ^ Outward, but slightly inward first. Pressure at 30,000 ft makes it impossible to get that "slightly inward first."
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u/JimmyThang5 14d ago
As a nervous flyer (that still has to fly all the time) thank you for explaining this <3
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u/Ajwuvsu 14d ago
Well, if it's any consolation, you only need to clench your cheeks at take off and landing. Most catastrophic failures happen at those times. As you can see, this bs happened at a lower altitude. Once she's cruising miles high, you're golden.
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u/Dragon6172 14d ago
The clenching helps suck the airplane into the air. If something bad happens, not enough passengers were clenching.
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u/SlowlyICouldDie 14d ago
Accurate āļøāļøslightly in, then open outward, but you canāt do that initial pull inward at high altitudes because of the pressure.
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u/bolpo33 14d ago
Comment above is correct. The doors are pulled in then pushed out, but pressure prevents the pull
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u/huertamatt 14d ago
Also depending on the aircraft, the overwing exit doors lock in flight. On the 737 they lock as power is applied for takeoff and unlock once the aircraft is on the ground.
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u/cuber_and_gamer 14d ago
Thank you for clarifying that the plane was only 250m off the ground. I was also confused because I know that at altitude, those doors have multiple tons of pressure holding them shut.
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u/Mr_HPpavilion 15d ago
The power of Idiocy has no boundaries
It can overcome any obstacle
Have you seen the 2008 movie "The Simpsons" where the mayor made Lake Springfield idiot proof by putting hard blockage around it?
Homer Simpson is that idiot who opened the plane door
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u/prickles_and_goo 14d ago
Have you seen the 2008 movie "The Simpsons"
never heard of it.
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Not how you deal with a fart on the plane.
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u/theeimage 15d ago
If you've got a better idea, I'd like to hear it.
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u/steelkamote 15d ago
Channel your inner Shaggy, and say "it wasn't me" no matter what
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u/CowboyfromHell4Life 15d ago
Man right, and pray no one had you on video. Be like all I did was lean against it to take a nap š³ who you gonna believe me or their lying eyes
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u/I_Fux_Hard 15d ago edited 14d ago
During pilot training there is a chamber where they slowly drop the pressure and you get to experience the joys of losing your vision and not being able to think correctly. There is like a group of four or six people in the chamber. Everyone farts so hard as they drop the pressure. It's so smelly. I can still remember the taste like 20 years later.
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u/boston_2004 15d ago
Caught me fartin on the counter.
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u/stinkypants_andy 15d ago
Wasnāt me.
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u/Far-Education5778 15d ago
Saw the marks on my undies
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u/boston_2004 15d ago
Wasn't me.
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u/shockmaster5000 15d ago
Heard the farts getting louder
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u/nj23dublin 15d ago
1) Cough really loud to mask the sound 2) look to your right or behind you with disgust in case the smell is bad to divert attention 3) if needed⦠say āsome people are just unbelievableā
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u/mai_tai87 15d ago
When I was 8, my favoritest great aunt told me that almost verbatim during a Thanksgiving get together. She was one of the only ones who got my sense of humor (wry and dry). She passed a few years ago and I miss her every day. Thank you for the lovely reminder (not sarcasm).
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u/IndependentFace5949 15d ago
Blame your wife, husband, signification other, or support animal in a louder than normal and surprised voice.
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u/Interesting-Law-5880 15d ago
Bro fell to the intrusive thoughts
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u/yourgifmademesignup 15d ago
Exactly what I thought. We all think it, this bastard acted on it! Tf smh
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u/yourgifmademesignup 15d ago
Exactly what I thought. We all think it, this bastard acted on it! Tf smh
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u/YZane3 15d ago
That's exactly what it was too. I'll bet there was no malice, no intent to do harm. Dummy just let the intrusive thoughts win
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u/DealingwithDisorder 14d ago
Wouldnāt that then be impulsive thoughts? Just acting without thinking⦠intrusive thoughts, we know what the repercussions would be, thatās why they are so stressful to have.
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u/bgravato 15d ago
Why did he do it?
Has he given any explanation?
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u/ajs20555 15d ago edited 14d ago
Panic disorder (according to Korea News Outlet)
Edit: https://youtu.be/LNsz7zXfPhw (suspect escorted from police station)
Another Edit: A suspect testified to police that he opened the door cause of the frustration from losing his job and breaking up with his girlfriendā¦.so apparently it had nothing to do with his mental disorder
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u/czerniana 15d ago
Iām pretty sure this would make my panic disorder five thousand times worse. He let the intrusive thoughts win, and tried to take others down with him. Makes zero sense, but then again, neither does any of the shit that makes me panic so thereās that.
Is he Korean? Or foreign?
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u/WellyRuru 15d ago
How?
Aren't those doors basically impossible to open at altitude?
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u/Mysterious-Drop1155 15d ago
The plane was at 700 ft when this happened
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u/nobodyisonething 15d ago
You can step out at a few hundred feet? I did not know this and I'm not sure I feel good thinking now lots of internet people with intrusive thoughts know it too.
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u/thatgoodcush 15d ago
Today I learned that itās possible to open the door at lower altitudes but you wonāt get sucked out like in the movies. The pressure is pretty much equal at lower altitudes. At high altitudes, the door wonāt open because it has to be pulled in before it can be pushed open and the pressure pushing against the door wonāt allow it to be pulled in first.
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u/kytheon 15d ago
Literally thousands of people in these threads are learning today that airplane doors open inside first.
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u/jon110334 15d ago
It was less than 1000 feet off the ground. The cabin doesn't really start pressurizing until around 8000 feet, so the "too much pressure difference to open the door" hadn't kicked in, yet.
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u/AffectElectrical9709 15d ago
That passenger who did that deserves attempted murder charges for every customer on that plane āļø and the staff included. He risked all those lives. Life no parole.
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u/Christovski 15d ago
Korea is pretty hot on crime so I can imagine an example being made
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u/Comfortable_Text 15d ago
Can the punishment to be yelling, this is Sparta and then kicking them out the door
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u/parkylondon 15d ago
As noted in the article, the airplane was only 250m off the ground. So yeah, dangerous and stupid but not the catastrophe it could have been. Also, airplanes have fail safes which prevent opening at altitude.
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u/kaehvogel 15d ago
Not exactly "fail safes", more like...physics. You can't really open the doors at high altitudes because the pressure difference prevents you from pulling them inwards, which you have to do.
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u/ShinyBronzeArse 15d ago
Physics is the best failsafe
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u/BeFastDW 15d ago
I failed physics, but physics never fails me
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u/theeimage 15d ago
Homer : I never passed Remedial Science 1A.
Marge Simpson : And you're a nuclear technician?
Homer : Marge, ixnay on the uclear-nay echnician-tay.
Marge Simpson : What did you say?
Homer : [ashamed] I don't know. I flunked Latin, too.
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u/YetAnotherBee 15d ago
The design requiring doors to be pulled in sounds exactly like a failsafe.
On a related note, airplanes donāt exactly fly because they have wings, itās more like⦠physics.
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u/parkylondon 15d ago
Ah yes, my mistake. As noted below, the laws of physics are the best failsafe!
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u/YetAnotherBee 15d ago
No, you were correct, the door design is in fact a failsafe. The fact that it along with most everything else on an aircraft functions because of physics doesnāt change that.
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u/phixer00 15d ago
He should be made to stand up in the first seat of the plane. As each passenger exits they get to punch him in the balls. Then take him to jail.
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u/Peskycat42 15d ago
I feel like the pilot needs some plaudits. Even at only 250m wouldn't this have caused stability issues as he landed?
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u/Saidear 15d ago
Nothing that can't be trimmed out with some rudder and asymmetric thrust - it's not that difficult. The biggest concern is avoiding making any banking turns to the left, as that risks things falling out of the aircraft. The door the passenger was aft of the engines, which is a blessing.
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u/dumpmaster42069 15d ago
No, it wouldnāt. The bigger concern is where the door goes. Outside the fuselage? Wind could remove it and then it could hit wing, tail, engines. Thatās a bigger problem.
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u/alittlesliceofhell2 15d ago
No, not really. This is done on purpose in quite a few aircraft platforms. The computer will resolve any instabilities generated by an increase in drag on one side.
Planes really like to fly and are quite hard to make not fly.
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u/2broke2smoke1 15d ago
One can only assume the pilot too lists to the left, hence the drag was something acceptable
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u/Sea_Dust895 15d ago
How did the guy who opened the door not get sucked out?
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u/Distwalker 15d ago
They were at 700 feet. As a former paratrooper who has 72 jumps between 800 feet and 1,100 feet, I can tell you that you don't get sucked out. You have to go out the door under your own power. As a former jumpmaster who has hung outside the aircraft doing outside air safety checks, I can tell you that feels more like it wants to push you in than pull you out.
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u/Marwott 15d ago
How many jumps before it stopped being scary? lol
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u/Distwalker 15d ago
In addition to those jumps, I have 113 sport parachute jumps. Honestly. It was never not scary.
52 of my military jumps were night jumps.
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u/Super_Preference_733 15d ago
True, and when loaded down with a ruck and other equipment, it's easy to bounce off the side of the door due to air blasts as you waddle out the door. Well, in my case. /s
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u/plasteroid 15d ago
they need to start putting emergency overrides on those.
people are not stable
everywhere we go
there is some person who does not know how to deal with their pain
a lot of times a cry for attention
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u/buttsparkley 15d ago
The whole point is that they should not be difficult to open , because in an emergency most ppl have idiot brain and that door needs to come off....
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u/nobodyisonething 15d ago
Would more guns help here? Arm everyone because you don't know who is crazy. Wait, perhaps my reasoning is not sound.
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u/Particular_Group_295 15d ago
I would personally get something and beat d shit out of him
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u/mmps901 15d ago edited 14d ago
Donāt act a fool on a plane. After 9/11 people should assume passengers will act to protect themselves and others on the ground. Your nonsense whether from being suicidal, making a political statement, a complete moron or dealing with a mental break doesnāt matter AT ALL while weāre in the air.
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u/Red__M_M 15d ago
Nah, he wanted to step out for a smoke. The door is open, so you might as well help him step out.
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u/Phill_is_Legend 15d ago
Yeah when we land and I can unbuckle my seat belt, dude is gonna have a bad time.
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u/fruitgamingspacstuff 15d ago
I can guarantee this sparks off a chain reaction to other lunitics that will start opening doors mid flight. I did always wonder how and why general public are trusted to sit next to those.
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u/bepr20 15d ago
I thought this was impossible to do because of the pressure diff... wtf, now I'm terrified.
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u/Trepide 15d ago
If sitting next to someone that does this, is the appropriate response to help him or her unbuckle?
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u/BourbonFueledDreams 15d ago
He let the intrusive thoughts win. Now heās going to prison and getting out on the no fly list.
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u/Cute_fluffy_kitten 15d ago
I heard that this was during landing. He probably had a connecting flight he was about to miss. Totally understandable
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u/zippy251 15d ago
The flight must not have been at a very high altitude if explosive decompression or at least cabin wide hypoxia didn't result from this.
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u/toooooold4this 15d ago
Who cares how high it was? If you've ever traveled by air, even when the wheels are on the ground, as long as the plane is moving, it's dangerous to open the door. The plane was landing and is traveling at really high speeds. I'd be freaked out if someone opened my car door while taking an off-ramp coming down from only 70 mph.
People are idiots. Glad this lunatic was arrested.
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u/spooninacerealbowl 15d ago
I think the higher it is, the greater the pressure differential is and therefore the more significant the impact on people inside the plane from depressurization would be. If I were in the plane, I would really care how high it is when the door is opened.
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u/Distwalker 15d ago
Why was no one stomping his guts out, that's what I'd like to know.
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u/BailoutBill 15d ago
Perhaps you would be fine with unfastening your seatbelt and wandering over near the open door 250m above the ground to engage in fisticuffs with a crazy person, but I think I speak for most people when I say, "No, I think I'll pass."
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u/R0Y-BATTY 15d ago
I assume āmid airā to be cruising altitude but even at 250m/800 ft this would be absolutely terrifying and Iād imagine I was going to die.
How was he not sucked out?
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u/bradbutterfilms 15d ago
How did the person who opened it at least not fly out immediately?
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