r/facepalm • u/Silent_Assasin14 • 9d ago
How is a praise from a non vegan compared to Hitler? 🇲🇮🇸🇨
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u/Taru-Shinkicker 9d ago
That went from great publicity to an instantaneous "well I'm never going to eat there" type of interaction.
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u/thecravenone 9d ago
Updates review to "Food good but the owner publicily compared me to Hitler and Jeffrey Dahmer. Would not go back."
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u/kor34l 9d ago
or "I was considering eating vegan more often and saving some animals but now I'm going to eat more animals and maybe some small children too because the owner named me Bloodmouth and I want to live up to this awesome title"
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u/Witty217 9d ago
My first thought was "fuck, what a metal thing to be called".
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u/Kcidobor 9d ago
I can only hear Bloodmouth in Nathan’s voice now. This did make me laugh out loud when I was scrolling silently
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u/Timithios 9d ago
Such a fun show.🤘
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u/driving_andflying 9d ago
Such a fun show.🤘
I saw the live tour. Worth every cent paid for the ticket.
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u/BearfangTheGamer 9d ago
Ragnar Bloodmouth, Scourge of the English Coast, Burner of Cities, Seducer of Queens.
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u/SeniorBeing 9d ago
This is the first thing I noticed. Owner is more interested in having some moral superiority than helping animal rights.
He is actively working to keep veganism small.
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u/kor34l 9d ago
yeah I guess if you're not vegan you must eat animals with every meal or this guy will be offended 🙃
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u/Collective-Bee 9d ago
Better to leave the review as is, otherwise it hides how crazy the owner was actually being.
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u/JockBbcBoy 9d ago
It's like the vegans who stage "radical protests" in restaurants by pouring blood on the floor or spraying customers with red paint. As long as they have the high ground, who cares if they dissuade others and look crazy?
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u/AdfatCrabbest 9d ago
They don’t want everyone to be vegan. If everyone was vegan, they wouldn’t be morally superior anymore.
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u/Professional-Fee-957 9d ago
They'd just move on to better extremes, "plants have feelings too. You vegans are plant murderers. Breatharianism is the true way!"
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u/Wolfhound1142 8d ago
"Bananas have 50% of the same DNA as humans. If you eat them, you're basically half cannibal."
Btw, the 50% matching DNA thing is true, and not limited to bananas but includes most multicellular life. A lot of DNA is just the encoding of proteins and cell division processes that plants, animals, and fungus all share.
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u/Pale_Swimming_303 9d ago
I know one angry vegan out of several vegans I know and she does not like animals… 🤷♂️
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u/Quirky-Skin 9d ago
I used to think the stories were overblown until I saw one in the wild. Friends party, cousin was vegan. She was asked to hand someone a sealed package of meats and cheeses (your Costco party plate variety)
She refused and the aunt had to physically get up to get the platter. The aunt was the host of the party I'll add and had done everything to this point.
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u/wehrmann_tx 9d ago
Spray my family or me with red paint and everyone gets a bloodmouth.
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u/Spindelhalla_xb 9d ago
Which is handy because they’ll have no teeth left to eat meat anyway!
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u/MmmPeopleBacon 9d ago
That's because the person who owns the restaurant isn't vegan for ethical or moral reasons. They agree vegan because they want to feel superior to other people in their own minds
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u/SomaforIndra 9d ago
I don't know what's going on, but malignant narcissism is at pandemic levels in all areas of life, ruining every positive movement and development that might make the world better, or maybe people have always been like this and I just didn't realize.
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u/Moon_Atomizer 9d ago
Social media, the lack of third places, increasing isolation, decreasing means of living. Something's got to break
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u/dogemikka 9d ago
That's because the person who owns the restaurant is a dick head. Zero sensibility, no empathy, and a poor business person.
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u/Grouchy-Engine1584 9d ago
Please, on a going forward basis, please refer to me only as Bloodmouth. Gawd that’s badass.
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u/ResponsibleMilk7620 9d ago
I sense someone is going to use that name for their thrash metal band.
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u/OhItsJustJosh 9d ago
Only if it's in German: "Blutmund!"
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u/Vendemmian 9d ago
I think I saw them at Wacken.
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u/Various_Froyo9860 9d ago edited 9d ago
Was that right after Smashmouth?
Because that kinda makes sense.
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u/Elliotlewish 9d ago
There is a band called Bloodmouth of Spotify, but they seem to be metalcore rather than thrash. I'm really digging them.
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u/tiggermenow 9d ago
I wonder if there will be enough of an uptick in listens that the band will be curious as to how people suddenly found their stuff, lol.
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u/Moonrajah 9d ago
Or a guy who drunkenly ate out his gf on period.
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u/ZenSpaceOdyssey 9d ago
My first thought too. Bloodmouth, that's what your Mom called me last time she was on the rag. Zing.
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u/DogWallop 9d ago
I'm just imagining the dude waking up the next day, hazily and heavily tromping to the bathroom mirror and the first thing he sees when he manages to fully open his eyes is... well... that...
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u/Rhesusmonkeydave 9d ago
BlööDMoüTh THE CRIMSON MAW
DEVOURING ORIFICE OF EXSANGUINATION /double kick drums fly into action
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u/Heisenburgo 9d ago
BlööDMoüTh THE CRIMSON MAW
DEVOURING ORIFICE OF EXSANGUINATION
Sounds like a Bloodborne/Dark souls boss or some shit
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u/Daedric_Spite 9d ago
Please to see this is the top comment when I clicked on the post. I read "bloodmouth" and was like is that really an insult? That sounds metal as fuck.
D'you mind if I go by Bloodmouth as well?
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u/Grouchy-Engine1584 9d ago
The army of Bloodmouth has begun.
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u/Good_Ad_1386 9d ago
It has a bit of a Viking vibe to it... "the sacking of the monastery was ordered by Olaf Bloodmouth..."
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u/Loki-L 9d ago
It sounds like a character from a comic book from the mid-90s.
Probably drawn by Rob Liefeld at some point.
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u/kibaake 9d ago edited 9d ago
In a fantasy setting, great name (or slur) for vampires.
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u/Backupusername 9d ago
There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for that treachery.
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u/Unmasked_Zoro 9d ago
Yeah I don't understand this. I mean he just made a meat eater go "this ain't half bad" which means he was a step closer to joining the vegan mindset. And then Mr restaurant owner decided to destroy all of that out of righteousness. Could have just simply said "we have even more if you'd like to try it..." and eventually bring him all the way around. But no... better to be salty.
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u/Dax_Maclaine 9d ago
It’s completely idiotic. You’re not gonna convince most people just like that to switch and comments like that actively hurt their goal. The funny thing is I’ve seen vegans (not all but def some) bash vegetarians for the following reasons:
They claim the same moral superiority but don’t do the the same work
They’re mentally weak
They’re frauds
Insert several quotes about dairy industry how could you support that
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u/Vargoroth 9d ago
Vegetarian here. Can confirm. Those are lovely conversations.
Some people are just self-righteous asshats.
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u/TechnicianPlenty 9d ago
I have a vegetarian ex, and it was really frustrating second hand. Vegans had a "not good enough" attitude, and omnivores acted like eating vegetarian was some super punishment.
Like, it wasn't easy in a relationship. Being specific about what cookware is used with meat is a good example. But, like, it took literally no effort to just... pick pizza topping that she can eat too. There is SO much good vegetarian food, and she could cook eggplant in a way that has the texture of meat that I wish I could replicate.
But, it was like pulling fucking teeth for other people. Jfc. She wanted to go to a new vegan restaurant for her birthday, and family/friends were so fucking obstinate about it. Seriously, they behaved like they never had been in a restaurant before, like they didn't know how to use the menu. Even if the food isn't good, you've never had a bad meal and behaved appropriately? They kept trying to get her to pick places that "had options for them"
Meanwhile they never considered her at all. The amount of restaurants that the only thing she could eat was a single greasy app or side dish. Like, the amount of times she had to eat only fries. It fucking astounded and infuriated me. YET, if I offered a vegan/vegetarian option at an event, EVERY MOTHER FUCKER EXCEPT THE ONE WITH DIETARY RESTRICTIONS WOULD EAT IT. Like fucking toddlers, "oh, I want to try vegan, but only if it's not my food".
...sorry, didn't realize I still had that rant brewing. Lol.
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u/StationaryTravels 9d ago
I'm a non-practicing vegetarian... lol, just kidding, that's my joke meaning I was one for a decade, but now I'm just conscientious about what I eat.
Anyway, I never had an issue with vegetarians before, during, or after being a vegetarian. I never gave anyone flack for eating meat, I was just doing what I wanted.
But, who did have a big issue was random omnivores. I wouldn't announce I was vegetarian, but family might know, or if someone asked based on what I was eating. Some people would just give me such a hard time. It was almost like I had offended them, like I was claiming I was better than them or something.
My aunt's argument was the funniest because she was like "then I guess you hate your stepdad since he's a hunter!" Lol. I was like "he loves animals more than most people I know, and hunting is one of the most ethical ways to get meat. I think he's great".
It's really made me question the stereotype of the loud-mouthed vegetarian/vegan. Anyone I knew who didn't eat meat didn't advertise it, but lots of meat-eaters were personally offended by my personal decision.
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u/lesterbottomley 9d ago
I once had a stranger want to fight me because I ordered a veggie burger on the way home from the pub.
Changed his mind, thankfully, when the half a dozen people I was with walked in to see what was going on. But what an arsehole.
Also had plenty of people get disproportionately angry that I still occasionally eat cheese and milk chocolate. Both vegans and meat eaters. In my face angry demanding I justify my choices. Although that's more common from vegans.
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u/TiredStarling095 9d ago
Some people look at what others are doing, and it they're not doing it, assume they are doing wrong and feel convicted. Then they take it out on the people who are doing whatever it is that make them feel that way, even if those people aren't trying to push their choices on someone else. It's like if I rage at my neighbor because he washes his car occasionally and I never wash mine.
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u/Nerd_of_Asgard 9d ago
That would be projection! Unless it’s something slightly different but Reddit folks will correct me.
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u/Catcolour 9d ago
Seconding this. My boyfriend is vegetarian, and for a while, his whole family was too. Whenever I'd talk to my family about it though, I'd get the strangest of comments about it. My mom was perplexed when they had a barbecue in the summer and flooded me with questions about what they would put on the grill if they didn’t eat meat. And my grandma regularly comments things like 'oh no, do you even get proper food at their place?' 'What do you even eat at home?' And when I visit her and she cooks for my mom and me every once in a while, I get a 'Finally some meat for you, you barely ever get it at home'. It's like meat is the only acceptable food on the planet in her eyes. Yes, grandma, dishes without meat exist. But I don’t think she's tried any of them.
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u/AceyPuppy 9d ago
My favorite thing to grill is pineapple. If someone hasn't had grilled fruit in their life they are seriously missing out.
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u/SavannahBeet 9d ago
My bf is vegan and I'm an omnivore who just eats vegan at home, because I can't be bothered to make two different dinners, and I'll just eat/make whatever he can eat. I get that same flack from my family and other people, like I don't understand the absolute mental roadblock that people have about it. And it certainly isn't worth getting your panties in a bunch either, like calm down ya'll.
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u/grendus 9d ago
For a very long time, every restaurant's "vegan" entree was basically an undressed pile of iceberg lettuce they called a "salad".
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u/psychoman1128 9d ago
Had a friend with gluten restrictions… was a similar experience for her. She’d go out with her family for events and they’d not consider her at all. Who cares that 99% of the menu is inedible to her unless she wants to spend the night having horrible stomach cramps?
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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 9d ago
People don't take other people's gluten restrictions seriously unless you have an embossed and notarized note from your doctor specifically detailing your celiac disease.
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u/Majbo 9d ago
This is a real problem. Self-diagnosed gluten sensitive people and the whole gluten-is-bad craze have made a joke of themselves and now people with celiac disease struggle additionally. I'm not celiac, but my mother in law is, and before the non-gluten craze, she could eat at gluten-free restaurants. Now, she can't because the restaurants who market as gluten-free cater to these people, but do not enforce strict non-contamination rules. Because, guess what, if you are "sensitive", you'll be just fine. Now she has to vet gluten-free places, and even got served contaminated food at a "gluten-free" hotel and ended in a hospital for several days.
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u/et842rhhs 9d ago
My SO has celiac and only went to places that told us they understood gluten-free requirements. Then he found bread at the bottom of dishes ("can't you just eat around it?"), croutons hidden in the salad, croutons hidden in the soup, and at one place the chef said that the gluten-free option for the evening was whole-wheat pasta. He no longer eats at restaurants.
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u/ArthurDentsKnives 9d ago
My father has celiac and I've actually been thinking for years that the stupid anti-gluten people (there is nothing wrong with it if don't have a medical condition) actually helped the general market produce more gluten-free alternatives. I honestly never thought about them faking it, which gives me pause now. I know, it's stupid that it never occurred to me before, but I appreciate you giving this rando a different perspective.
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u/twilekquinn 9d ago
It's definitely a double edged sword. Great for groceries, bot always great for restaurants
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u/QuantumKittydynamics 9d ago edited 9d ago
YET, if I offered a vegan/vegetarian option at an event, EVERY MOTHER FUCKER EXCEPT THE ONE WITH DIETARY RESTRICTIONS WOULD EAT IT.
I'm a vegetarian and I've experienced this so many damn times.
The last conference I attended, they set it up so vegetarians got a special card for their badge, and you could only have the veggie option if you showed that card. It was so glorious to know I would always have food instead of watching all the omnivores run off with the food I could eat.
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u/emote_control 9d ago
The cookware thing is weird. When I was a vegetarian I didn't give a shit about that because the point isn't that I'm trying to be kosher or anything. The point is that I'm trying to avoid causing the deaths of animals just to feed me. The spatula having traces of chicken fat on it is not going to contribute to that. It's not going to give me meat cooties. Hell, if you're just going to throw that extra slice of pepperoni pizza in the garbage I might as well eat it, because otherwise the animal died just to be wasted food.
The number of vegetarians and vegans who treat this like a religious observance or some mystical path is disturbing. It's a bit crazy, and that should be acknowledged.
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u/fornostalone 9d ago
The cookware thing is weird...
In the UK Veganism is a protected belief under the law, and hence made it an utter nightmare for professional kitchens specifically for this reason. Some of them stopped offering the Vegan options entirely and changed them to Vegetarian, even if they were actually Vegan anyway - reducing the overall options available.
It's not something that's a huge problem considering how we have to be trained against cross-contamination re; allergies and such, but it was an extra little arseache in an industry already on razor-thin margins that it wasn't worth the effort to be that accomodating.
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u/redbradbury 9d ago
I’m still a vegetarian, but I will eat the meat my brother in law hunts because I understand that if the deer & elk populations aren’t culled, there is not enough food for the whole herd & they will starve over winter (because humans have eliminated most of their natural predators). It’s a mercy.
I’m obviously opposed to trophy hunting, but the number of vegetarians & vegans (and even omnivores) who think all hunters are evil & don’t understand this is annoying AF. A quick, painless death from a good shot is infinitely preferable to the long, slow & agonizing process of starvation.
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u/hykruprime 9d ago
That sucks. In my family your birthday meal and cake is whatever you want and nobody would even thing of complaining.
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u/riskbreaker23 9d ago
I'm not vegan, I plan on never being vegan. I do think it's good for me to cook less meat, and to work with vegetables more to make delicious food that maybe doesn't use meat.
But I really tried to include my step niece. We had BBQs and I made sure to have a meatless option. I didn't give her shit for it like my brother did. And to her credit she's not obnoxious about being vegan.
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u/whistlerbrk 9d ago
I somehow stumbled into the vegan subreddit a while ago, I think a thread made it to /r/all. Within it was a war of vegan v. vegan where some argued to be easy and reasonable with vegetarians since they are doing a small fraction of the damage that 'carnists' were doing. Opposite them was extremism I couldn't fathom. Such a turn off.
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u/Cloberella 9d ago
Vegetarian subs literally had to stickie a post reminding vegans not to be assholes and that they have their own sub if they want to bully vegetarians.
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u/redbradbury 9d ago
Yeah, I tried to point out that by being so insufferable & militant, vegans turned plant based eating into something to be mocked. That does absolutely nothing to further animal welfare & actually turns people off from even trying it.
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u/Weak-Yogurtcloset812 9d ago edited 9d ago
I read a post where someone said vegetarianism was the OPPOSITE of veganism. Bizarre take.
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u/anonymoose_octopus 9d ago
The people who would respond with something like the restaurant owner did, or post it in a vegan subreddit as a "based" opinion, are only vegan so that they can feel superior to other people. Someone who is a vegan because it's in the better interest of the planet generally want people to come over to their side, even if only by 80%.
Everyone eating less meat, or only meat bought sustainably or locally, would be better for the environment and for their cause. But they're too proud to admit that, and if it's not 110%, they don't want it.
SOURCE: I'm someone who looked very seriously into veganism and wanted to make the change, but I was completely turned off by the community's black and white views when it comes to consumption. After being chased out with pitchforks for my apparently "controversial" opinions, I got really demotivated and haven't visited the idea since.
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u/Ortsarecool 9d ago
This reminds me of that old adage "perfect is the enemy of good". They are so busy expecting perfection out of everyone that they are pushing back against the good that people are trying to do.
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u/Mechakoopa 9d ago
I've accepted the fact that I'm probably never going to go full vegetarian, never mind vegan, but for health (and budget) reasons it's nice to have options for meatless or low meat meals a few times a week. Like, did I opt for the Impossible Burger when we got takeout last night? Yeah. Did I also get cheese on it? Damn right. Someone getting mad at me for that is just going to lower the chances of me making that kind of compromise in the future, next time I'll just get the regular burger.
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u/Zealousideal_Pool_65 9d ago
Great take. A pragmatic vegan — rather than a moralising absolutist — would see every meal consumed at that vegan restaurant as a win, especially when it’s a meat eater who would otherwise have consumed animal products.
Those who fixate on personal morals almost make it a religious matter, as though the perfectly natural desire to eat meat is some kind of original sin for only the righteous to overcome. If meat eating were instead presented as a normal habit that can be curbed for material benefits, I’m sure a lot less people would find the argument absurd.
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u/Crown_Collector1 9d ago
Vegan here. I love my lifestyle choice, but (1) I know it is not for everyone and (2) never understood the extreme anger some other vegans display.
Personally, I view it as a positive thing when someone takes steps like reducing the amount of meat they consume. Some vegans just don’t seem to live in a world of reality.
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u/FullMetalCOS 9d ago
I worked with two Vegans in a team of about 20 people. One of them was super chill and just occasionally offered advice when discussing food, suggesting vegan options that may be worth considering (we had a bunch of gym nuts in the team too, so we talked about food A LOT, one of the guys literally ate chicken, brown rice and spinach every day for two+ years and we were trying to get him to try ANYTHING ELSE lol), the other was militant as fuck and seemed to hate anyone talking about or eating meat in their proximity. For all the good the first Vegan did to provide ways and gentle encouragement to reduce our meat intake (and she did make some really tasty food) the second one almost made people eat more meat just to spite him for being such a dickhead. It all came to a head when he sent an email to the whole team FURIOUS that our annual team night out wasn’t in a fully vegan restaurant and how offensive this was to him (bearing in mind we’d worked with the “good vegan” to try and find a restaurant with multiple GOOD options for them). We just stopped inviting him to stuff after a while because he was just…. Not worth the effort
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u/Nitetigrezz 9d ago
The loud and angry few will always drown out the many
I never understood that mindset, either. I'm an omnivore, but if I found a vegan restaurant with food I actually enjoyed that much, wouldn't it be a good thing in the future for me to choose to eat there instead of a burger or steak? I just... I don't get it.
It's like the religious zealots who think they can win followers over to their church by telling others that they're going to burn in hell, except in some ways even worse. That's like if I went to church and said there were a few things in there that actually clicked with me, and was told to never come back because I'm a sinner.
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u/Dizzycactus3 9d ago
Wonder what arguments they'll have when lab-grown meat is a big thing, they'll need to pick something else to feel superior about
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u/kneeltothesun 9d ago
That's exactly it! For some, it's become more of an ideology. It doesn't really seem to be about helping the plight of animals, reducing public meat consumption, or encouraging sustainable farming practices anymore. Also, they're just not reasonable about their expectations, versus the very real nutritional demands of humans, and other omnivores/carnivores.
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u/Dax_Maclaine 9d ago
That’s exactly why I said some and not all. I have a friend that’s vegan and is super chill abt it. Whenever there was pizza at school events he would give me (or others) his lol
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u/True-Firefighter-796 9d ago
Ok bloodmouth
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u/ApplicationCalm649 9d ago
Would a vegetarian be a milkmouth?
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u/Ok_Aspect5167 9d ago
Pretty sure those are Milk Drinkers.
And SKYRIM belongs to the NORDS
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u/LurkLurkleton 9d ago
The common nomenclature in /r/vegancirclejerk (the true vegan sub) is "cheesebreather."
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u/RonMFCadillac 9d ago
I kind of want to go to this restaurant and leave a similar review just to get the moniker "Bloodmouth".
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u/Domyyy 9d ago
It’s a thing with „internet vegans“. Unless you’re 100% vegan, you’re not doing everything in your power to and you’re therefore a terrible person.
Ask them how they think about vegetarians, for example.
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u/Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer 9d ago
It’s a thing with „internet
you coulda stopped there and just pointed out online everyone is dumb
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u/cyberpunk1Q84 9d ago
My theory is that vegans like the restaurant owner in the post don’t really want to spread veganism to the point where it’s the norm, but instead, they see it as an exclusive club that they’re a part of and you’re not because they’re better than you.
You see this type of elitism in other areas. For instance, certain “alternative” music fans (I’m thinking metal, punk, etc.) like to talk crap about popular music and complain that people don’t listen to real music and things of that sort, but as soon as one of their favorite bands makes it big, they’ve now “sold out” and the same fans talk crap.
Though, I imagine not all vegans are like this but the loudmouth minorities are very loud.
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u/kibaake 9d ago
"Sure, you get more flies with honey than with vinegar, but honey isn't vegan, so I'm gonna be as sour and acidic as possible, You F*CKIN' Bloodmouth!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/CJgreencheetah 9d ago
They even could have jumped on it and been like, "Hey, try this vegan bacon substitute and see what you think." But, no, they had to prove their superiority.
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u/petroljellydonut 9d ago edited 9d ago
At the very least he’s interested in reducing his meat intake which is an incredible step. I myself mostly eat vegetarian except the very occasional fish or ever so often chicken. The thing that helped me move to a more plant-focused diet was experiencing good vegetarian food. I go absolutely insane for this local Indian restaurant’s paneer saag or their daal. My coworker is Chinese and makes the most incredible tofu dishes.
Shaming people rarely converts anyone to your side. Cooking delicious vegetarian dishes will.
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u/thatthatguy 9d ago
The stereotype is that most of the benefit of being vegan is the sense of superiority and being able to insult anyone who does not share your values. If you convert people to your cause how will you justify belittling them?
That’s the stereotype anyway.
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u/m0belix 9d ago
almost like the restaurant owners reason for being vegan isnt animal welfare in the first place.
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u/Effective-Bandicoot8 9d ago
"Thank you for your review. We are so happy to hear that you enjoyed your experience with us. We hope you will be back to try some more of our menu."
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u/Valcarde 9d ago
But but how can I prove my moral superiority without tearing someone down for thinking my cooking is good just because they also enjoy meat?
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u/carrefour28 9d ago
How to do business:
get a five star review
call them hitler
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u/Mister_Celophane 9d ago
Publicly piss off one customer, other customers read and are pissed off, potential new customers pissed off, owner wonders why no customers anymore, establishment closes. Good plan, asshole.
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u/hhunterholmm 9d ago
comparing someone who eats meat to hitler? that’s what we’re doing?
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u/RedBaret 9d ago
Also extra ironic because Hitler was vegetarian…
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u/willywillwilfred 9d ago
I just looked into it, all sources agree hitler was a vegetarian except PETA, who claims it’s a myth lol
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u/riceandcashews 9d ago
TBH, that's a very common vegan move. Factory farming = concentration camps = if you eat meat you are basically Hitler in relation to animals
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u/Penguinunhinged 9d ago
Vegan and non vegan views aside, that restaurant owner has to be very stupid to not realize that this is probably a very good way to fuck up your own business.
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u/domainserv 9d ago
I am Bloodmouth
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u/King9WillReturn 9d ago
I am Bloodmouth
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u/RavenBoyyy 9d ago
I am Bloodmouth
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u/CommercialAbrocoma47 9d ago
Based on current stats, this would make 86% of the worlds population akin to a murderous dictator or serial killer.
Is this why people say it’s not safe to walk out on the street anymore?
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u/silver-orange 9d ago
I spent a little time perusing extremist vegan forums a few years ago (including one in a portfolio of websites our company hosted), and found numerous posts about how "carnists" should not be trusted around pets, since they're all animal murderers. I guess since I had a burger for lunch, there's a risk I might eat my cat too.
Internet people are fucking weird. All the vegans I know IRL are totally normal and non-judgemental. But social media really brings out the crazies.
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u/Got2Bfree 9d ago
I'm deeply convinced that most of the meat eaters could never kill an animal.
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u/evansdeagles 9d ago
Sure, but that's like saying you're deeply convinced that most people who use tables cannot be carpenters. And most probably couldn't, not without training.
Modern living requires the sacrifice and/or labor of other people and animals so you don't have to do it yourself. That shirt that's made in China? There's a decent chance it was made with child labor or Uyghur slave labor. That lithium battery and your diamond ring? Probably sourced from miners who are slaves or "near" slaves in Africa.
Yet not many people talk about those things, because they can't get cheap clothes and electronics otherwise.
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u/TheMcRibReturneth 9d ago
99%, less than 1% of the global population is vegan. Veganism is less popular than flat eartherism.
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u/Apprehensive-Fun-567 9d ago
No no no, dont blot out the user. We need a name
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u/nitro912gr 9d ago
So this guy almost converted a meat eater to vegan because of his great cooking and then slapped him in the face "we are enemies, remember?" or something...
Great plan!
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u/poeticdisaster 9d ago
This response proves it's the people who center their entire personality around being vegan who are the problem. There are plenty of vegans that aren't complete and total assholes but they aren't loud about it.
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u/stevengreen11 9d ago
Vegan here.
Also not an asshole. Spread the word!
Keep in mind that people spread sensational stuff, too. So an outrageous vegan that people hate is going to spread like wildfire on reddit. Whereas a video of Earthling Ed having a reasonable discussion and getting people to change their minds is not.
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u/jus1tin 9d ago
I know a few vegans so I know vegans aren't generally like this but I've also followed r/vegan for a while so I know a lot of them are.
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u/Wit-wat-4 9d ago
Plant based household here for many years with many vegan friends in my circle, and I can’t stand that sub.
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u/ElectrumDragon28 9d ago
And vegans wonder why all the hate
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u/colieolieravioli 9d ago
The vegan sub kept getting recommended to me and my brother is vegan for medical reasons and I like the food he's shared, I've made vegan food for him, etc so I was like cool maybe I'll stay
Anyway the posts there are so cringe and terrible I blocked the sub this morning
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u/undercooked_lasagna 9d ago
They brigade like crazy too. The sub would have been banned years ago if admins were at all consistent with their rules.
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u/StoxAway 9d ago edited 9d ago
Vegans define veganism as something holistic; don't wear leather or wool, don't eat palm oil, don't use cosmetics tested on animals, or anything else that infringes on an animals welfare. Someone like your brother would be considered "plant based" because they follow the vegan diet only and don't really consider all the other aspects of animal suffering that goes on. The members of that subreddit can be incredibly hostile to prople who call themselves vegan but are actually plant based. I got chewed out by a bunch of people because I mentioned that my SO (who I met long before I went vegan) still ate meat. It can be pretty rediculous but most of them just have absolutely nothing else going on in their lives so they latch onto it to try and find purpose.
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u/Zefrem23 9d ago
1% evil = 100% evil. It's all or nothing for these folks. Extremist ANYTHING is bad, regardless of the righteousness of their motivations.
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u/Ophidiophobic 9d ago
Try r/vegetarian. They're a lot more chill
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u/Baquvix 9d ago
They're constantly getting attacked by vegans too imo.
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u/Frozenturbo2 9d ago
Why are vegans trying to intervene on the vegetarians? Like what did they do that was worse than people who eat meat?
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u/Baquvix 9d ago
Its like gays telling bi's fraud. They telling "you tryna take easy way and still support animal cruelty. You are no different" . At least on the internet. I really didnt encounter a vegan/vegatarian this extremist on irl. They mostly chill like "you do you me do me"
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u/CyberneticSandwich 9d ago edited 1d ago
screw snobbish support offend pause boast reminiscent school dull boat this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev
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u/dont-fear-thereefer 9d ago
Just checked the sub now: “I’m vegan and lonely” and “Is it vegan to own a pet parrot?” I guess I will never understand these peeps.
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u/CandidAd6114 9d ago
I mean, by their own logic surely owning a pet is basically slavery right?
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u/Spatzenkind 9d ago
The PETA of vegan restaurants. Good cause - undermining the own ideas and scaring people from ever wanting to be associated with you.
"Hey, I consider eating less meat, because your food was good" - "Fuck you! We don't need you to get people to eat less meat!" "Okay. Back to McDonalds I guess."
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u/canastax 9d ago
why is the name of the restaurant not included? this sort of thing should be circulated so that people have a choice, and know what sort of person runs this customer oriented service. i wouldn’t waste a dime here, and would want to know what sort of person owned it
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u/Silent_Assasin14 9d ago
The fact that r/vegan gives the title of based is another facepalm
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u/Livid_Advertising_56 9d ago
Well that's great PR for the restaurant..... also that'll totally convince ppl that veganism is the right way
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u/Llewellian 9d ago
Reminds me to this old (deleted in the meantime) tumbler discussion that gained fame for a while, where a self-righteous Vegan dissed somebody just for saying that he was at KFC.
Citation from a Google Text Search:
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forfuturereferenceonly writes:
There is nothing sweet or savory about the rotting carcass of a chicken twisted and crushed with cruelty. There is nothing delicious about bloodmouth carnist food. How does it feel knowing your stomach is a graveyard?
senor-bizarro responds:
I'm sorry, but you just inadvertently wrote the most METAL description of eating a chicken sandwich in the history of mankind.
MY STOMACH IS A GRAVEYARD
NO LIVING BEING CAN QUENCH MY BLOODTHIRST
I SWALLOW MY ENEMIES WHOLE
ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE KENTUCKY FRIED
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u/Ozzymendiass 9d ago
I feel so sorry for vegans who are reasonable and civil to others. Ethical philosophy is not by any means simple or obvious and civility about it (within reason, obviously some behaviors are so destructive that to preserve society we need to stop them.)
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u/stevengreen11 9d ago
Reasonable civil vegan here. And thank you.
Unfortunately as soon as someone drops the V word most people automatically assume they're not reasonable.
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u/KosmicMicrowave 9d ago
I'm vegan. We know it, ya'll know it, there's a lot of crazy asshole vegans. There's a lot of crazy asshole anythings out there.
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u/anonymous_scrub 9d ago
Should note hitler was a vegetarian so he probably would praise the restaurant.
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u/AloneAddiction 9d ago edited 9d ago
Hitler wasn't vegetarian out of choice. He had abdominal problems all his life that gave him bad gas and diarrhoea so his doctor ordered a fairly strict vegetarian diet.
Remember this was 1930s-1940s and nutritional science wasn't anywhere near as comprehensive as it is today.
Hitler probably had what we would now call IBS, maybe even other types of functional bowel disorder.
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u/BionicBananas 9d ago
He wasn't, among his favourite meals were liver and trout.
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u/Bierculles 9d ago
didn't he only go vegetarian at the end of the war because the stress was insane and not eating meat helped with his digestion?
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u/mrmrwright 9d ago
So he would have loved the restaurant at the end of the war
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u/Putrid-Builder-3333 9d ago
He loved the restaurant when he officially lost. His first and final review was mind blowing
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u/Nameless_on_Reddit 9d ago
"let's see, I could thank him for the compliment and suggest he comes back and tries a few other dishes and maybe starts to think going full vegan might be a good thing as time goes on. Or I can go full moron and insult the hell out of him and make him go yep all vegans are dick heads. I think I'll go with full moron."
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