The MSI Ventus 3X is a 3080 To

Is this fine or am I putting too much strain on the connector?

It's the adapter that came with the MSI Ventus X3 4090.

Initially I was looking at a 3070, but the extra VRAM of the 2080ti is more appealing to me since I run at 4k. Planning to meet with the guy today, gonna put it on a test bench and benchmark before handing over my money.

Some modding tools for Cyberpunk 2077 have been updated for the version 2.0 patch. And this allows for easy testing of certain things that were difficult before. So I will be looking at one of these today. The impacts of increased ray count, and decreased noise, on DLSS Ray Reconstruction.

Cyberpunk 2077 has a "Path Tracing" mode that traces rays through the scene to calculate lighting data and how it intersects with materials. Typically the number of rays cast is quite low to keep performance high (because tracing more rays, and subsequently doing more shading, requires more processing time). This leads to an issue called "noise" where the information collected from the low number of rays is highly inconsistent from pixel to pixel. To work around this noise issue, we use denoisers. Tools that blur the lighting data, combine lighting data over time, and/or predicts lighting data, based on the noisy inputs. And DLSS Ray Reconstruction is a denoiser (plus upscaler?).

Anyway, different denoisers behave differently depending on how noisy the input data is (E.G. A denoiser designed for low ray counts might over blur details in high ray count renders. While a denoiser designed for high ray counts handles this better, but does a much worse job at producing a "convincing result" when working with low ray counts). So I wanted to see how DLSS Ray Reconstruction handles this.

From my testing I noticed that increasing the ray count:

1. Improved the quality of some effects while in motion. (E.G. Some reflections show more detail as you move). This is expected, there is a higher "signal to noise" ratio meaning that the denoiser doesn't have to blur, combine, or predict as much information, meaning it can show more "correct" information.
2. Improved the convergence time while stationary (E.G. When you stop moving, some lighting effects will converge to a "high quality denoised" result. Increasing the ray count decreases the time required to converge to this image). This is expected. There is a higher "signal to noise" ratio meaning the denoiser can use fewer frames to get the information required to create that "converged" result.
3. Improves the responsiveness of surfaces to changes in lighting (E.G. When a light changes colour, an increased ray count will result in surfaces reacting faster to this change in lighting). This is expected. Higher "signal to noise" ratio leads to reduced denoising, and reduced reliance on temporal information.
4. Reduces some denoising based ghosting on some objects (E.G. Ghosting on a bottle rolling across the floor is slightly reduced). This is kind of expected. Higher "signal to noise" ratio leads to reduced denoising and reliance on temporal information, reducing ghosting. Note: This is still quite a bit of ghosting, it's just slightly reduced on some objects.
5. Reduces disocclusion artifacts (E.G. The artifacts/noise is reduced on surfaces that were exposed in the current frame). This is expected. Higher "signal to noise" ratio leads to a higher quality denoised result when there is no temporal information to use to improve the quality.
6. Reduces "swimming" or "boiling" artifacts on some surfaces, and subtly changes the brightness or colour of the lighting on these surfaces. This is expected. Higher "signal to noise" ratio leads to more accurate denoising, reducing artifacts.
7. Increases "boiling" and "swimming" artifacts on some surfaces in certain situations. My guess is that DLSS Ray Reconstruction is reducing the denoising it's doing in response to a higher quality input, but it's been reduced too far resulting in the noise negatively impacting the final result.
8. Sometimes increasing the ray count doesn't increase the quality of the denoised result while in motion on some surfaces. My guess for why this happens is similar to the previous point. DLSS Ray Reconstruction is probably reducing the amount of denoising it's doing, probably reducing the temporal information it's using, in response to a higher quality input, which results in an image that's more responsive to changes in lighting, but still the same sort of quality as a lower sample count. Since the changes in lighting aren't drastic, you don't notice that advantage, and the denoised result looks similar to before.
9. DOES NOT remove the "oil painting" look of DLSS Ray Reconstruction.
10. Reduces performance, meaning some things that rely on temporal information can see a reduction in quality (E.G. Some ghosting is actually worse with a higher ray count. Probably due to the reduced frame rate reducing the quality of the temporal upscaling part of DLSS Ray Reconstruction).

Note: Most of my tests were done at 2560x1440 with DLSS Super Resolution Qaulity Mode with DLSS Ray Reconstruction turned on with a RTX 4090. I primarily tested 2 rays per pixel (seems to be the default) vs 8 rays per pixel. I chose to compare against 8 rays per pixel because performance is still high enough that the motion between frames is still relatively low, allowing DLSS Ray Reconstruction to easily reuse some temporal information while in motion.

Now, there is an interesting point I wanted to bring up from the previous paragraph. Increasing the ray count reduces frame rates. DLSS Ray Reconstruction has a temporal component to it, and reducing the frame rate can result in a decreased ability for DLSS Ray Reconstruction to use temporal information due to the increased motion between frames. So is this trade off between performance and ability to use temporal information worth it? The answer to that question changes from person to person based on their performance and preferences. But I believe it is worth it to some extent. If you have the performance headroom to do so, then increasing the ray count from 2 to 4 or even 8 could be worth it. However there is diminishing returns as your ray count increases. So going above values like 8 may not be worth it while using a denoiser.

For anyone interested, here's a video showing a few examples comparing the different ray counts. Showing scenes that have a benefit, a scene that has almost no noticeable benefit, and scenes where increasing the ray count is partially detrimental. https://youtu.be/L4frHe_j8t8

Hi everyone,

I'm planning to get a gaming laptop (my current laptop has an intel HD 4000 graphics card... yeah. so any gaming laptop will be a significant upgrade).

I'm hesitating between these two laptops :

GIGABYTE AORUS 17H BXF ( NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12Go GDDR6 - Intel Core I7-13700H )

and this one :

MSI Stealth GS66 ( RTX 3080 Ti Max-Q GDDR6 16Go - intel Core i7-12700H )

I am a newbie to this and I don't which option is better. Any input will help, thank you all.

This is driving me crazy.

I have this random squeaky "mouse like" sound from my GPU fan. (Not coil whine which I'm familiar with)

I've tried cleaning the GPU using a compressed air can but the sound is still there. I'm 100% sure it's from the GPU fan because zero rpm mode eliminates the sound completely. Any thing else I can try beside replacing the fans? (I'm pretty sure I'll screw something up if I'll try to disassemble it)

This might be a dumb question but I’ve never paid attention to new gen GPUs around black friday. I was wondering if it’s a norm to see bundles or deals on high end gpus around that time of year.

Will this prebuilt work with its GPU and power supply?

Hi folks. Im looking to buy this PC because its on sale for a thousand off and specs look great for 1700 USD. However, I noticed the power supply is only 600 and it has a 3080. Can this power this kind of a rig? Should I cancel this order, or do the specs make sense?

I cant imagine they’d sell a prebuilt that couldn’t run.

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/hp-omen-25l-gaming-pc-intel-core-i7-12700f-1tb-ssd-32gb-ram-geforce-rtx3080-only-at-best-buy/16691486?source=category&adSlot=3

P.S. I know its more efficient in the long run to build my own. But my life is hectic and my old pc broke so I just want to get back to gaming.

Hey there guys, it is finally time to change my 960 into something much better after god know how many years.

In my country there is quite a big difference in price for some models of 4090 and since I am just around the msrp budget I have the choice of:

Inno3d X3 OC and Zotac trinity

Rest of brands like MSI / Asus / Gigabyte are obscurely priced and definitely out or my price range. Zotac and Inno are considered as low quality non popular brands here , hence the price drop which makes it borderline msrp.

Even though this is the most frequent question, I still wanna check out if there is some update about the quality and build of above mentioned cards that I have missed and mostly which one would be better choice?

Tnx a lot for your help in advance 😁

My Thoughts: H100 Hopper datacenter and AD102 consumer Ada Lovelace were drastically different approaches to making a 144SM GPU and the different scaling as well as different internal architecture deserved different names.

Nvidia GPUs minimum unit is the Streaming Multiprocessor the SM. This is where the math happens for both Integer and Float.

2 SM together are paired into a structure called TPC, housing specialized units like texture units

The highest level and what companies like Apple and Intel call the GPU core are for Nvidia the GPC. They distribute work on the GPU and house units like ROPs

Both H100 and AD102 have 144SMs. H100 has a 9GPC:8TPC:2SM AD102 has 12GPC:6TPC:2SM GB202 might have 12GPC:8TPC:2SM

So I've been running a 1080 for a good while now and it's been suprisingly good at keeping up with modern titles but I think it's about time for an upgrade.

For reference I use a 1440p monitor and have a ryzen 5 3600x. I know the absolute basics about builds but am otherwise pretty tech naive. My question is would it be worth while to upgrade to a 3070 with my build or is there a better option for me? Price wise my budged is around 500 (maybe 600 max) and the 3070 seems to tick all the boxes but I haven't heard too much about this card. What's everyone's experience with it?

Anyone know where I can buy an RTX 6000 ADA for MSRP pricing? Most places online that sell it to the average consumer (non-corporate entity) seems to sell it at a severely upmarked price of $10,000+.

I do super heavy 3d work and need that 48GB of vram for 3D rendering, the 4090 is too weak for my purposes.

Some days ago I decided to pull the trigger and remove my good old reliable 1080Ti for a couple of days to have it cleaned up/repasted/repadded completely. It had been a couple of years since I last cleaned it up and I had never repadded it since its launch in 2017 (2016? Can't recall).

Safe to say it sounded like a jet engine and it was definitely thermal throttling because it would hit 93C while under load at 80-100% fan speed. The sound was almost unbearable (especially considering the 10xx FE series has a blower cooler) but at that point but I've grown accostumed to it, since it's been running like that for SO LONG. Only now that it is soooooo quiet that I notice how much of a turbojet engine it sounded like before.

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I took some before and after pictures and I also have a quick question to make. First the befores:

Crunchyyyy!

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SO. MUCH. DUST.

Now it's all ready to go:

Yes I know the blue pads are kinda meh but it's what we have here...

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Now to a question (or a bunch of them): I noticed the PCB coating near the GPU core itself has a lot of discoloration, and also the board itself is really discolored on its side (see pics below). Is this a product of the card running so hot for such a long time? Is it expected? Is it just due to the card's age? Should I be expecting it to die soon because of it? It hasn't shown ANY signs of defects or strange behaviors whatsoever, but these made me afraid it is counting seconds until it craps itself. Here's what I'm talking about:

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Discoloration on PCB near GPU core

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Compared to a random GPU core we had lying around

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This one scares me as well. The PCB profile around the area of the core is much more orange than the parts away from it, which are yellow

Please take care of your cards guys. Make them last. I'm itching so much to upgrade but I'll get every last drop of performance from this beast of a 1080TI until it dies on me. This card has done so much over the years: it mined, gamed, smashed VR on my Quest2 and rendered workloads gracefully and it's honestly the GOAT!

FYI, just grabbed mine

Hi! I've been using the same GPU for 6 years so it's time for an upgrade, which option from the 4 above is the best version for me to choose? Disregarding prices.

Take into consideration: General Performance, Coil Whine and Temps

Please tell me about your personal experience in case you own one of the models! Thanks in advance!

Notes: I'll be gaming in 1440p and I'm using a Core i7 12700KF

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The Setup:This is an unusual idea but I have an Xavier AGX and a Tesla P40 PCIe Card. I was thinking about building an "AI" server if you will that would run image and language models that I would interact with either by webui or API (for home automation stuff). The Xavier would be a nice small power friendly machine to run this on given I would need to use external power for the GPU tumor on the side but I would probably 3dprint a nice small case (and fan) for the GPU etc....

The Question:I've ran the P40 on my desktop (ThreadRipper) and it worked just fine, however I've tried to place it in other desktops and linux/windows complain about the device not have enough resources available to start. I am assuming that they are meaning PCIe lanes as the P40 takes advantage of the whole x16 pcie slot.

Does the Jetson Xavier AGX pcie slot allow full 16x access? or would I be wasting my time trying to run these two devices together?

*Side note* I've ran stable diffusion etc on the xavier natively but it was WAY slow. Language models also need a lot of /fast/ Vram and run nicely on the P40. I know it is an unusual question but I'm sure there are some lurkers here with the knowledge that can save me a lot of time.

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