r/politics • u/HyacinthFT • Jun 09 '23
Conventions flee Florida as Ron DeSantis wages culture war
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/06/conventions-flee-florida-as-ron-desantis-wages-culture-war/1.1k
u/bensonnd Illinois Jun 09 '23
This worked in AZ in the wake of SB1070. The state lost something like $8 billion in convention money and the conversation changed.
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u/sarexsays Jun 09 '23
Same with North Carolina. Money talks 💰
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Jun 09 '23
We North Carolinians were the first ones to fuck around and find out.
And now we’re fucking around again -_-
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u/IdiotMD North Carolina Jun 10 '23
Already lost Film to Atlanta. All that Marvel $$$ could have been in North Carolina.
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u/LesGitKrumpin America Jun 10 '23
Wow, I didn't know that. Way to fuck up, eh?
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u/Something_pleasant Jun 10 '23
Wilmington was on deck to be the Hollywood of the east coast. But…republicans.
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u/BobbySpitOnMe Jun 10 '23
It seems republicans do this with every up-and-coming production state after they pass a tax credit. They get so excited about the money they forget that it comes with an influx of liberal voters attached.
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u/Vince_Clortho042 Jun 10 '23
In the mid-00s it seemed like Austin was going to be the new Hollywood of the South, but then Rick Perry and the GOP nuked all of the film incentives and we lost a lot of work to Louisiana and Wyoming of all places.
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u/birdele Jun 10 '23
Pat Mccrory fucked us in more ways than with just the bathroom bill, that's just his legacy.
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u/badatmetroid Jun 10 '23
If conservatives were capable of learning from the mistakes of others then there wouldn't be any conservatives
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u/I_Heart_Astronomy Jun 10 '23
And now we’re fucking around again
That's the problem. They fuck around, find out, then adjust strategy to find a way to have their cake and eat it, too.
They should never be given the chance to try again with a different approach.
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u/TristanIsAwesome Jun 10 '23
I love the new North Carolina license plates:
First in Flight (of corporations from the State)
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u/SocialPup Jun 10 '23
DeSantis is bad for business. Everyone's a loser under DeSantis.
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u/Kitana37 Jun 10 '23
And with MLK Day in the late ‘80s/early ‘90s after we lost a Super Bowl.
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u/Bonesnapcall Jun 10 '23
As an AZ resident, I was quite pleased with our state only giving Joe Arpaio 17% of the Republican primary vote when he ran for the US Senate seat.
We have rejected the crazies in Arizona in all places except the most gerrymandered state legislature seats.
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u/bensonnd Illinois Jun 10 '23
I hope the people of Arizona wake up and get that knocked down so they can get it back to normal. I enjoyed living in that state, but the crazies were a bit much.
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u/BaitSalesman Jun 10 '23
I used to run a trade show, and I cannot emphasize enough the obscene amounts of spending associated with these. Losing just one is a tangible hit that some chamber of commerce is livid about. A run of these in multiple municipalities would be unsurvivable for a state politician.
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u/vulgrin Indiana Jun 10 '23
Maybe it used to. But business republicans aren’t in charge anymore. Until the GOP slug it out and figure out what they believe again, the majority of the party would like to see everything burned to the ground. And they aren’t entirely wrong, they’ve just been aimed at the wrong people.
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u/Extension_Income Jun 10 '23
"... figure out what they believe again" <<< This says all anyone needs to know about the last eight years in GOP land. They have no policies, just stupid nick names for opponents and stripping the rights of citizens.
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u/Syjefroi Jun 10 '23
last eight years
Political scientist Jonathan Bernstein made the case that by 2010 the Republican Party was "post-policy" and had given up on their platform in favor of political wins. It basically started in earnest as soon as Mitch said their goal was to make Obama a one-term president.
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u/Extension_Income Jun 10 '23
I can't believe it, but I forgot that McConnell (and the GOP in general) had set that as their one and only goal. It's been a downhill-run for them since.
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u/vulgrin Indiana Jun 10 '23
And how do you beat an educated black man and a strong black woman in the White House? Racism and anti educationalism.
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u/jursamaj Jun 10 '23
Sadly, that will have little effect. DeSantis is moving on from ruining Florida anyway, and his pet legislators are stuck with him, even if they wanted to break away.
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u/Totum_Dependeat Jun 09 '23
Orlando's conference district is mind blowingly huge. Block after block of enormous buildings that can hold tens of thousands of people. The area is surrounded by hotels, restaurants, and bars, not to mention Disney.
The owners of those establishments and their employees are getting absolutely railed by Rob and his bathroom war. Hope those lower taxes were worth it.
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u/LingeringDildo Jun 09 '23
Florida isn’t a low tax state. Those Orlando I-Drive business owners are paying out the nose in property and tourist tax for the privilege of government destroying their livelihoods.
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u/FunInternational1812 Jun 10 '23
I've been visiting Orlando since 2002, with my last visit October 2022. It was incredibly sad seeing I-Drive with so many vacant/closed businesses on my last visit. It had been bustling with tourists from all over the US and the world every other time I had visited, and the tourists were still there but just not in that area.
Icon Park is probably not as big of a draw as the planners/city thought it would be either, and Epic Universe is a bit too far off the main Universal campus for my tastes, and not really my thing, but it seems promising.
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u/Big-Shtick California Jun 10 '23
All this just so his GOP buddies can look at little kids' privates... or own the libs... or something?
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u/boregon Jun 10 '23
To be fair Orlando is one of the bluest parts of Florida. Most of them didn't vote for DeSantis.
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u/bluem0bile Jun 10 '23
I am glad someone mentioned this. I am an Orlando area democrat I didn't vote for this asshole and don't know anyone who did.
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u/cultfourtyfive Florida Jun 10 '23
Tampa here. Specifically Ybor. Ditto. I know some folks out in Pasco who likely voted for him, but my hood is not DeSantis friendly. We are drag queen friendly, so that explains why.
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u/Ardea_herodias_2022 California Jun 09 '23
Yep. The science organization I used to be with has already decided that after this year they're going to limit conference locations to states that aren't going christofascist.
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u/whataboutism_istaken Jun 09 '23
So no "red" states then. Really sucks our nation has been changed into a prolonged episode of Red vs Blue but here we are.
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u/bodyworks Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
I mean outside of Texas, Florida and Kentucky (if you like Bourbon or horses) what Red States would you realistically want to visit even if they were not actively trying to over throw the will of the people and install a dictator? Um, ok maybe Montana.
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u/1ns0mniax Jun 09 '23
I’ve been to all 48 in the continental. Alaska would be the only red state i actually want to go to for a visit.
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u/bodyworks Jun 09 '23
I forgot about that one despite actually wanting to take a cruise there lol.
That being said who is lining up to go to North Dakota, Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, W.V. etc.
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u/jgandfeed I voted Jun 09 '23
ND and WV have some interesting natural places i believe. The other 3....idk why anyone chooses to live there
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u/1ns0mniax Jun 09 '23
West VA has some beautiful bluffs but the people often seem like they are one “Hi, how are you” away from going postal. The rest are obscene shit holes on a lot of levels. Loved central OR but with all the influx of people in the recent years, it lost its’ charm and is now also unpleasant place.
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u/baron-von-buddah Jun 09 '23
Problem is, red state/ blue state dosent really exist. I’m in upper suburbia NY and there’s nothing but Trump crap and bigotry all over here. It’s NYC is keeping things blue.
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u/Balogne Jun 09 '23
As it should. The largest voting demographic should be in control in a democracy.
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u/Unethical_GOP Pennsylvania Jun 09 '23
It is problematic when the state that is the worlds 5th largest economy has the same number of senators as Wyoming and Washington DC has no representation whatsoever. Minority rules in the US.
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u/chase016 Jun 09 '23
Yeah, the power of the Senate needs to be seriously neutered. Bicameral legislatures are more or less a thing of the past. They should only have power over presidential nominations and foreign policy. Everything else should be handled by the House.
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u/Ardea_herodias_2022 California Jun 09 '23
The gerrymandering needs fixing, house seats need expansion, & the electoral college needs dumping as well. Honestly I think those are a bigger problem than the Senate.
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u/AMC4x4 Jun 10 '23
All of those things make sense, as long as the House is expanded and gerrymandering is fixed. Trouble is, no matter how FAIR you make the process, the right is going to scream bloody murder because they know they've been over-represented for decades.
We should say "fuck their feelings." I mean, it's insanity that the Dakotas are as populous as my county and they have four Senators.
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u/DaBingeGirl Illinois Jun 10 '23
The filibuster is the problem. We need to stop being scared of 50+VP passing legislation. Needing 60 votes is insane and gives far too much power to the minority.
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u/zeroGamer Jun 10 '23
The Senate isn't actually the problem. It does what it's intended to do.
The real problem is that the House was artificially capped many years ago - So it can't do what IT'S supposed to do. If States had the representation they SHOULD have in the House based on population, Republicans would never have a majority there without major party shifts.
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u/verrius Jun 10 '23
The Senate is also a problem. You're right that it does what it's supposed to do. The problem is it was supposed to give slave states a way to get their way, despite not being as populous as the North.
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u/fail-deadly- Jun 10 '23
The country with the world's largest economy, it's third largest population, it's best funded military, the fourth largest landmass is controlled by five unelected judges who are appointed for life.
They can overturn or reinterpret any law, no matter the amount of popular support, and only Constitutional amendments, which are exceedingly hard to pass, are the only method of trying to control them. However, those same judges get to determine the meaning of the amendments. They can be as corrupt as they wish, and it's extremely unlikely they'll ever be removed via impeachment.
It's been 220 years since they unilaterally granted themselves this power, which is not in the Constitution, and other U.S. political figures who figured prominently in the early Republic era, and were in power during the decision, completely opposed judicial review.
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u/Smaynard6000 Florida Jun 09 '23
It's more blue urban vs. red rural. Every state has blue and red areas, but it gets portrayed as red states and blue states because of the electoral college realities.
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u/BigMax Jun 09 '23
Right, and “red” or “blue” can just mean 55% majority, so there’s still a LOT of the other side. Just that it’s not as apparent since it’s the government that sets the rules, and (usually) the majority picks the government.
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u/JojenCopyPaste Wisconsin Jun 09 '23
and (usually) the majority picks the government.
Yeah I'm in WI. Our motto is "forward" and we're past that now.
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u/PlayingTheWrongGame Jun 09 '23
The difference between red states and blue states isn’t the people, it’s how power is distributed in the state government. Blue states represent people, red states represent land.
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u/KarmaPanhandler Jun 09 '23
Wouldn’t be surprised to see voting rights tied directly to land ownership again the next time the right is in power.
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u/fpcoffee Texas Jun 09 '23
they’ve already outlined their plan. voting age to 25, no more birthright citizenship
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u/TerryYockey Jun 10 '23
Can't do that without a constitutional convention.
Which can only be called by vote of 2/3 of state legislatures (the GOP only control 22 of the necessary 34), or by 2/3 vote of both the House (290) and Senate (67).
An exceedingly high bar in either case.
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u/tsrich Jun 10 '23
Supreme Court says it’s cool if they just go ahead and change it because god says so
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u/ByTheHammerOfThor Jun 09 '23
Worth noting for everyone in the thread that conservatives in upstate NY complain about “makers” and “takers” but conveniently never acknowledge that NYC generates more tax revenue for the state than it receives back in the state budget as funding for critical infrastructure like trains. A real head scratcher, that.
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u/mjlp716 Jun 09 '23
Hello from WNY, we are doing our job of helping keep the State blue also. Don’t discredit the other cites of the state.
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u/Pickle_Juice_4ever Florida Jun 09 '23
It's more like straight north from NYC on the other side of the VT border has turned into a MAGA hellhole. But you know rust bent isn't as blue as it used to be either.
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u/TheMarkHasBeenMade America Jun 09 '23
It’s a pretty common trend that metropolitan areas tend to be more blue than red rural areas. Western NY is helping hold down the fort.
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u/baron-von-buddah Jun 09 '23
Thank you! Dutchess is weird. Poughkeepsie, Beacon, Rhinebeck are great artsy enclaves. The surrounding areas, 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Mister_Snrub Maryland Jun 10 '23
I work for a science organization, and we host an annual conference with 12,000+ attendees, in addition to many smaller events, that won’t be going to any of those states anytime soon.
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u/Ardea_herodias_2022 California Jun 10 '23
Can I ask which branch? Im coming from earth sciences & it'd be nice to see all the big conferences like GSA put these states on notice.
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u/TheGoodKindOfPurple Jun 10 '23
Chicago is centrally located.
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u/Ardea_herodias_2022 California Jun 10 '23
Yeah they're gonna get more business. Plus, Chicago pizza!
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u/chicagoerrol Jun 10 '23
Well we already are the leading convention city. This will only maximize it further.
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u/underbloodredskies Jun 10 '23
Plenty of banquet and event centers here in Minnesota that would love to have the business. And a decent airport to fly in and out of too.
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u/boulderbuford Jun 10 '23
It would be great to have a better documented list than what this article provided - just 3, of which one is still planning for a florida conference in september.
I'm sure that there are many groups that are going to avoid Florida, Texas, etc. This article would simply be more compelling with more examples.
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u/Ardea_herodias_2022 California Jun 10 '23
True but that info will come out in dribs and drabs as various groups announce things. Expect most science societies to really consider their meeting places though. Fascists clamping down on freedoms, inclusive policies, pulling books & funding from education is going to drive them away, especially since there's been a huge STEM push the past 20+ years.
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u/ranchoparksteve Jun 09 '23
Florida has transitioned from a state with random lunacy to an organized, oppressive government regime.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Mississippi Jun 09 '23
They won't stop until Tallahassee is Little Moscow
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u/tickandzesty Jun 09 '23
Sunny Isles Beach, is already Little Moscow. All the high rises are dark at night, too. Gotta wonder who owns all those $million condos.
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u/CharleyNobody Jun 10 '23
This is exactly right. Trump Sunny isles is the winter HQ for the Russian mob. A Russian mobster was deported back to Russia and was being interviewed by an American reporter. The worst thing, the mobster said, was that he could never go to Miami again. The sun, the beach, the hookers, the drugs, the golf, the fast life, the corruption. There’s no place like it.
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u/Maximum_Future_5241 America Jun 10 '23
He can go to Thailand or some place.
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u/AngryBudgie13 Indiana Jun 09 '23
Some parts of Florida the amount of Slavic accents or Russian and Ukrainian being spoken is…surprising.
Although I located Ukrainian food in Florida which is a big win.
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u/descendingangel87 Jun 10 '23
Isn’t there already a St. Petersburg in Florida?
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u/meanmasterjay Jun 10 '23
Yes, and it’s one of the best, most liberal cities in the entire state! Beautiful downtown and surrounded by gorgeous coastlines overlooking both Tampa Bay and the Gulf of Mexico.
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Jun 09 '23
Just don’t mention the transition to DeSantis or he’ll have your kids taken away
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u/trogdor1234 Jun 09 '23
Yup! Everybody acts like it is DeSantis. It’s the entire Republican state house and senate in Florida.
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u/Pickle_Juice_4ever Florida Jun 09 '23
Well in fact DeSantis had been worse than them, constantly pushing to get crazier stuff on the docket. Look up his role in the racist redistricting plan.
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u/Drusgar Wisconsin Jun 10 '23
They're just chasing their nutty voters. I mean, if you want to win your primary you have to be at least as nutty as Trump, but more importantly you have to be nuttier than everyone else running. It's essentially a race to the bottom.
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u/ProjectFantastic1045 Jun 10 '23
They are USING their nutty voters in order to gain personal wealth and power. Nothing more in the majority of GOP cases.
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u/ScotTheDuck Nevada Jun 09 '23
Crashing your state's economy to own the libs get your ass kicked in Iowa
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u/bensonnd Illinois Jun 09 '23
He is failing miserably so far. It's quite delightful, but that only means Trump is probably going to be the nominee.
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u/jacthis Jun 09 '23
I would prefer the one with 37 federal indictments and a huge losing streak be the GOP nominee.
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u/lookiamonredditnow Jun 09 '23
I would not. If he is the nominee, he can still win. I vastly prefer a scenario where his chances are zero. Trump vs. Biden is not even close to a sure thing for Biden.
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u/blackmetronome New Jersey Jun 09 '23
Independent voters aren't going to vote for a candidate that is facing a max of 400 years in prison for espionage
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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Jun 09 '23
Don't forget a lot of Independent voters are just Republicans too embarrassed to say so in public.
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u/peter-doubt Jun 09 '23
There's 3 ways to vote in an American election...
- Republican
- Democrat
- Stay home
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u/bloodphoenix90 Jun 09 '23
Can't I be an independent voter but vote Democrat for now and the future so long as the GOP is full of fascists? I just say independent because I do not believe in loyalty to political tribes or parties
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u/socsa Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Registering with a party is not declaring your undying love for a party. If anything it's the exact opposite - it's expressing an ideological stake, and willingness to influence the direction of the party by taking an active role in its function, even if only symbolically.
I think a big part of the problem with politics today is the reactionary cynicism. Everyone needs to just take a breath and remember that democracy is not something which is done to you. It is something you do.
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u/lookiamonredditnow Jun 09 '23
I wish I shared your optimism, but you don't need to look back very far to find a president that was elected after being given no chance and laughed off as a sideshow. Same guy, and he could do it again.
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u/Fawks_This Jun 09 '23
In 2016, I heard a number of people say “how bad could he be?” They found out and many independents voted against him. Trump will maintain the support of his base, but I expect even that support to shrink as reality invades more of their safe spaces. Just look at his rally crowds. He’s not pulling in nearly the numbers he did in 2016.
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u/ridauthoritarianism Jun 09 '23
I have a hard time understanding the MAGA crowd. My sister thinks she is saving the country by promoting Trump and believes all the conspiracies perpetrated by Fox news and others. She believes Porn is being taught in preschool. Telling kindergartners some people have two mommies or two daddies is supporting porn. Its real life, my granddaughter has friends with two mommies. kids are experiencing this is real time, lets not lie to them.
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u/fungobat Pennsylvania Jun 10 '23
10 million more people voted for Trump in 2020 than 2016.
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u/bensonnd Illinois Jun 10 '23
This is one of those thorns I don't think will ever go away. It hurts that after 4 years of some the worst governance possibly ever, MORE people bent over without lube this last time, and said give me more. That killed me.
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u/fungobat Pennsylvania Jun 10 '23
Same. So when I hear people saying "oh, no way he'll win in 2024" I'm just like "were you even paying attention in 2020?" And again, popular vote doesn't mean shit. The electoral vote in 2020 was way too close for comfort.
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u/PossessedToSkate Jun 10 '23
Look on the bright side: thousands and thousands of them are now dead.
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u/honeyimsorry Jun 10 '23
This is exactly what I think every time someone says they want him to be the nominee.
Not taking him seriously as a threat is EXACTLY what happened last time. It was a mistake then and it's a mistake now. He is not a normal political candidate, he still has a giant cult that could watch him jizz all over the U.S. Constitution and ask what it was wearing.
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u/cutelyaware Jun 09 '23
We even had a candidate run a presidential campaign from prison.
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u/rafikiknowsdeway1 Jun 09 '23
its never a sure thing, but i imagine it'll be as close to one as modern presidential elections can get. he couldn't win with the independent support he had before. its not going to be better now that he's facing a ton of criminal charges. also biden gets the incumbency bonus this time
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u/snowgorilla13 Jun 09 '23
Yes. Good. Trump is unelectable. The average American hates hearing about him in the news every day for four years. Don't trust him for fumbling Covid, and know he's full of shit.
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u/JojenCopyPaste Wisconsin Jun 09 '23
I'd be fine if I heard "passed away in prison today". But yeah I don't need to hear about the guy every day.
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u/bignose703 Massachusetts Jun 09 '23
Heck I’d settle for “Passed away peacefully in his sleep”
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u/JubalHarshaw23 Jun 09 '23
There was never any chance that anyone but Trump would win. All the other clowns in the show are doing is tuning him up for his attacks on Biden and Democracy. He could win the nomination from a prison cell or a suite in Dubai or Moscow. He might not win the election, but it will be closer than 2020.
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u/Irishish Illinois Jun 09 '23
Man, his laws even affect cosplayers. How fucking dumb can a law get?
Of course in sure he and his goons wouldn't bat an eye at a Ryuko cosplayer baring 95% of her body around kids (no judgment, cosplayers rule and if you're self confident enough to wear that you rule too). But a man wearing frilly gothic lolita garb from head to toe might merit a visit from Johnny Law.
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u/broniesnstuff Jun 09 '23
Honestly every cosplayer in Florida needs to show up to whatever conventions in Florida in gender swapped costume. Like the dude with full facial hair that cosplays sailor moon
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u/preposte Oregon Jun 09 '23
Not worth it. If they live in the state, Desantis will send CPS after their kids while they're at the convention. Cruelty is the point.
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u/Galaxy_Ranger_Bob Virginia Jun 10 '23
There is a possibility that Desantis will send CPS after their kids even if they don't live in the state.
I mean, the migrant workers that Florida is shipping off to New York, California and Massachusetts weren't in Florida when they were kidnapped and trafficked to those other states.
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u/elsandry Minnesota Jun 09 '23
Anyone know what Man Faye is up to these days?
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u/freecoffeerefills Jun 10 '23
Now that’s a throwback. Wherever he is, I hope he’s happy.
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u/SimplyComplex314 Jun 10 '23
He's working as a manager at a Hilton in Rockford, IL. At least as of like a year ago when I ran into him there.
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u/rptrxub Jun 10 '23
They probably think getting rid of cosplayers is good too for whatever reason. These are the people who actually thought kids were getting litter boxes in school for being furries. Which just isn't what a furry does. I can imagine what they think about cosplayers.
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u/buzmeg Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Obligatory given mention of Ryuko:
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/8a3mu4/bravery_in_cosplay/
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u/BeeRye3 Jun 09 '23
They’d just save themselves the trouble and book flights to California from the start.
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u/JubalHarshaw23 Jun 09 '23
Everyone should stop visiting Florida, and stop buying anything that comes from Florida.
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u/SheWhoVotes Jun 09 '23
California oranges are better anyway.
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u/dogboy_the_forgotten Jun 10 '23
True dat. I should know, grandparents lived on Orange St. in Orange, CA which is in Orange County and grew oranges for a living. You could say I'm a legacy
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u/lankypiano Jun 10 '23
I too had grandparents who had an Orange tree in their backyard in Orange County, California.
Shit was bomb. Oranges are my go-to fruit and favorite scent/flavor, and I largely attribute it to this.
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u/pixelburger Jun 09 '23
I suspect DeSantis thought there was a vast anti-woke wellspring that he could tap into and ride to the White House, but it’s just not materializing.
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u/TurningTwo Jun 09 '23
Yes, time for him to pivot. What will the next bogeyman be?
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u/Affectionate_Reply78 Jun 09 '23
‘Chick-fil-A being out of sauces, thanks Biden’ hasn’t been on rotation for a while. Rage needs constant updated content.
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u/SheWhoVotes Jun 09 '23
Finding Out is very expensive.
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u/nate_oh84 Indiana Jun 09 '23
Fucking around is easy. Finding out? That's hard.
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u/Banana-Republicans California Jun 09 '23
For everything else, there is Mastercardtm
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u/AdjunctAngel Jun 10 '23
flesh eating bacteria on the beaches.. disney canceling projects and jobs.. conventions ditching.. farming and construction and service industry in peril... powerful groups and organizations advising not to go near florida... doctors fleeing the state.. innocent people getting arrested and harassed.. truckers refusing to go near florida so supply chains upset... the list just goes on about how fucked up desantis and republicans have made florida.
and desantis? well, he is doing his best to ignore the problems he caused his state while running around pretending to be human in his presidential bid...
at what point does the state of florida bother rising up and expelling the republicans from florida? you guys just waiting until he starts publicly executing you with his private police forces that he hired from the worst corrupt cops list? because don't forget that he did that too.. it isn't a joke he is trying to create a new nazi party. you are watching it happen.
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u/rptrxub Jun 10 '23
He has sent his goons after his political rivals children already, for posting memes about how cops are afraid of school shootings. If Florida continues to be controlled by the GOP it's fucked.
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u/AdjunctAngel Jun 10 '23
plus that scientist and her family for posting the accurate covid numbers in florida. had a swat team terrorize her home and children.
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u/StipulatedBoss Jun 09 '23
I really hope someone at the DNC or on Biden's campaign is keeping a log of all these economic harms caused by DeSantis' War on Wokeness.
What a compelling ad that would be.
OPEN: DeSantis at a campaign rally. "I am going to Make America Florida."
TITLE CARDS:
Homeowners' insurance rates skyrocket 500% in three years.
Florida economy collapses as businesses and construction sites shutter without immigrant labor. DeSantis' immigration bill to blame.
Multiple conventions in Orlando, Miami, and Tampa cancelled.
Florida economy down 3% in last two years. DeSantis' policies to blame.
Thousands of jobs lost.
CLOSE: Desantis - "We're going to Make America Florida."
NARRATOR: Do you want to be Florida? We didn't think so.
BIDEN VOICEOVER: My name is President Biden, and I approve this message because America is better than Florida, and America deserves better than Governor DeSantis.
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u/CharlieChop Jun 09 '23
"We don't want any of DeSantis' malarkey."
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u/bensonnd Illinois Jun 09 '23
That word is such an 80 year old word, and it's so very his.
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u/nerdening Jun 09 '23
Sign me up for the war against Malarkey.
They want to declare a war on woke?
Well, we declare war on something we can actually define.
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u/realHDNA Jun 09 '23
We’ve all got like 15 War on Christmases and a few wars on women under our belts, now. We are ready lol
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u/TheUpperHand Jun 09 '23
I wouldn’t say America is Better than Florida. That directly alienates Floridians and that’s not Biden’s MO. ‘Ron DeSantis’ policies have failed Florida and they will fail in other states, too. Florida deserves better than Ron DeSantis and so does the United States of America.”
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u/memememe91 Jun 09 '23
They don't care about those things as much as they care about "owning the libs". It's frustrating trying to get messaging through to a bunch of pinecones.
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u/No-Programmer-7253 Jun 09 '23
Everyone I work with just said they wouldn't attend if our conventions were held in Florida. We aren't willing to betray our LGBT+ colleagues.
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u/jsudarskyvt Jun 09 '23
DeSantis needs someone to explain like he's a five year old that being anti-business is bad for business.
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u/HuntoorsLurpTurp Jun 09 '23
Oh man, I, a raging liberal, sure do feel really owned now that Florida lost all this business.
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u/illepic Jun 09 '23
I've shared this in other threads on the topic, but my company does two in-person events a year. Miami was next up for us and the resounding vote was a "fuck no", so we're going to San Diego instead.
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u/UltravioletAfterglow Jun 09 '23
Good thing Florida doesn’t rely on tourism. /s
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u/Radi0ActivSquid Nebraska Jun 10 '23
As a huge Transformers fan I think TFcon should just cancel for this year. We can relocate to a state that has freedom.
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."
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u/jamesmr89 Jun 09 '23
Was looking for a vacation in the winter cost about the same to fly to Hawaii as it does the Florida. No brainer.
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u/Toumangod0 Jun 10 '23
To the people saying Florida will change this once they lose business sure a decade ago that might of been the case but the conservative party are all full on unhinged fascists now and the cruelty against groups they hate is the point. They'll happily shoot themselves in the face as long as the bullet goes through them and hurts those they hate too that's how tribal they've become.
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u/CodenameZoya Jun 09 '23
I hope this is true, and I hope it cost Florida a metric shit ton of money!
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u/tedistkrieg Nevada Jun 09 '23
As someone who works in Las Vegas in the Casino/Hospitality industry, I for one, thank DeSantis for the inevitable increase in convention business
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u/805to808 Jun 09 '23
Furry money is bigger than you think, have fun hosting gun shows and tattoo expos year round Florida.
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u/classycatman Jun 10 '23
Furry money is HUGE and there’s so much more to it than the part people love to make fun of.
These are people with serious disposable income that will drop thousands on a suit, hundreds and sometimes thousands on travel and accommodations and more
Let Florida run more run shows where the average yokel brings $40 for a new toy in case the government comes knocking.
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u/sugarlessdeathbear Jun 09 '23
Republicans really love that self-inflicted economic damage.
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u/25electrons Jun 10 '23
Our family is boycotting Florida. That destination wedding we were invited to?
-They get a card.
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u/rose_gold_glitter Jun 10 '23
As a non American, I can tell you Florida is petty much the reason I won't even visit your entire country anymore. The entire place is right on the edge of becoming a christofacist dictatorship and I don't feel safe considering visiting there anymore. Which is a pity because I used to like going to defcon.
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u/Lord_Montague Michigan Jun 09 '23
I was supposed to attend a corporate training in Orlando this fall. I changed to a different session in another city.
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u/wavinsnail Jun 10 '23
The national school librarian conference is in Florida this October. I didn’t really think about it deeply enough before singing up to go. Now I’m really worried, and thinking I maybe should have waited till it was somewhere else.
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u/MommyDrinks Jun 10 '23
Our largest Education conference (Union) is headed to Orlando in July and I’m a delegate. I’m a little miffed we’re going through with this and I’m honestly a bit worried about our safety. Last time I checked one of the county’s largest education unions weren’t really a favorite. It’s weird because..2? Years ago we pulled out of Texas
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u/BeeRye3 Jun 09 '23
Guess you could say “Old White Boots Ronnie Boy” is unconventional?
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u/Vollmannrama Jun 09 '23
This dude is winning more than Trump! Florida electorate reaping the benefits of being complete morons.
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u/besart365 Jun 10 '23
Why would anyone do business in a fascist state with a coast full of flesh eating algae?
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u/Contentpolicesuck Jun 10 '23
We cancelled our trip to Orlando and are going to Disneyland and Knotts Berry Farm in CA.
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