r/politics • u/HeinieKaboobler • Jun 09 '23
‘This is a terrible thing': National security insiders alarmed over military secrets found at Mar-a-Lago
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/09/devastating-former-trump-officials-alarmed-over-military-secrets-found-at-mar-a-lago-00101366716
u/vwboyaf1 Colorado Jun 09 '23
There were documents literally set on a stage with zero security. It must have been a nightmare trying to assess the damage done when you have to assume everything is compromised.
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u/Blarg0ist Jun 09 '23
The pentagon should sue him for damages.
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u/Captainwelfare2 Jun 09 '23
He should and hopefully will be charged with Treason when we find out what he secrets he sold off.
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u/Bradst3r Jun 10 '23
Either we give Trump the chair, or we dig up the Rosenbergs and apologize.
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u/CommanderHR New Jersey Jun 10 '23
Snowden showed only trusted reporters select classified information that he was privy to, all in the name of bettering global privacy. Quite literally the opposite of how Trump handled it.
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u/thousandmovieproject Jun 10 '23
Dude, OK, imagine:
Trump's on trial. The prosecution spells this out for him the way you just did. Or maybe the judge.
There's cameras.
The severity is suddenly sinking in.
And then, on national TV... he cries.
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u/dremonearm Jun 10 '23
Putin and Kim Jong Un are his buddies, they have money, and would love to know U.S. classified military information.
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u/CrazyMarlee Jun 10 '23
Saudis have more money.
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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Texas Jun 10 '23
And Jared was well paid for something.
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u/_ficklelilpickle Jun 10 '23
Is it wrong to think the Saudis might just be doubling their investment as a medium between the US and China/Russia?
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u/406highlander Jun 10 '23
Fun fact - North Korea apparently makes the world's best fake US bank notes; they've been described as practically indistinguishable from the real thing.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Donnie sold documents to his NK bestie... and was paid in fake bills? Especially ironic, too, considering all his dumb supporters who had been conned into investing in Trump Bucks only to find out later that they were worthless.
I mean, hilarious might not be the best word to use, considering the possibilities of the nature of the documents he had in his possession (I don't know what was on them, but it can't be good).
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u/BazilBroketail Jun 10 '23
I wonder if Randy is sweating. I want to know what was in that letter he took to Putin. "A man's gotta eat, Mr. Lahey" don't seem like much of a defense...
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u/spacezra Jun 10 '23
Shit storm is brewing filled with shit hail and shit lightning and shit tornadoes.
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u/flybydenver Jun 10 '23
$2 billi worth to the Saudis…
“Pay my daughter and her husband, no one will notice” - His Hairdo-ness, probably
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u/nikolai_470000 Jun 10 '23
Literally. The amount of shit people have to dig through to undo or at least mitigate the consequences of this is probably pretty expensive too. They could have been doing other things, but they’ve now had to waste probably millions of dollars cleaning up after this fool.
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u/Big-D-TX Jun 10 '23
Guys… Trump has more hidden somewhere
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u/InstrumentalCrystals Texas Jun 10 '23
They haven’t raided bedminster yet and I can’t figure out why
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u/captaincanada84 North Carolina Jun 10 '23
They never found the Iran war plan documents he was caught on tape talking about. It's still missing.
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u/Big-D-TX Jun 10 '23
Are these documents leverage or did he sell them. He needs to be in Jail…
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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Texas Jun 10 '23
In a grave on a golf course
Only half joking. Nothing that man does could surprise me.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer Jun 10 '23
I would be shocked if there weren't documents in her grave.
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u/T_that_is_all Ohio Jun 10 '23
And no body. Just a casket filled with documents. They probably just chucked her corpse into the sea.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer Jun 10 '23
She was cremated.
Which begs the question, why did the pallbearers struggle to lift it at the funeral?
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u/postmateDumbass Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Well at least we know the plot of several upcoming Nic Cage
Cafemovies.Edit: well something changed my comment text after i had submitted it. Name was spelled correct then.
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u/droans Indiana Jun 10 '23
Something that worried me is that some of these documents were so classified they had to redact the classification in the indictment.
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u/Dragonlady1027 Jun 10 '23
What scares me is he had documents taken to Bedminster (where he currently is) right before the raid. There is no evidence that those boxes or their contents were recovered. He could be selling secrets right now.
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u/Bagellord Jun 10 '23
I saw elsewhere that it could be a separate investigation and indictment, due to different jurisdiction. So maybe it's not as bad as that
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u/Couve_do_Lidl Jun 10 '23
Between this and the Teixeira leak...
The far right has completely compromised America and the West as a whole. They're useful idiots in the hands of autocrats, at a time a country is being invaded in Europe using arguments copied from the Anschluss.
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u/pangolin-fucker Australia Jun 10 '23
I'd argue they were the safest
The ones he was holding close are the ones I imagine that were worth something..... To him
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u/matva55 California Jun 10 '23
Lol everything is and has been compromised since 2016
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u/EmmaLouLove Jun 09 '23
The photo of our nation’s classified documents sitting in a bathroom next to a toilet is an embarrassment. Really just reckless and criminal behavior by the worst President in American history.
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u/Fluffy_Lemming Arizona Jun 09 '23
Not just any bathroom, a tacky bathroom.
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u/bk15dcx Jun 09 '23
The frame on the mirror is hideous
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u/forceblast Jun 09 '23
A chandelier above a dirty shower curtain. WTF!? That should be it’s own criminal investigation.
At least install some glass shower doors if you’re going to be tasteless enough to put a chandelier in a bathroom.
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u/dirtywook88 Jun 10 '23
I bet it smells like straight bleach in there as a poor attempt to hide the funk.
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u/schizodancer89 Canada Jun 09 '23
you can tell he really is short. look how low that chandelier is
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u/Glass_Fix7426 Jun 10 '23
Your comment made me realize the photo is horizontally distorted, here is attempt at normalizing the ratio https://imgur.com/a/XVgtBT9
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u/RunninADorito Jun 09 '23
I like the top to the sink area. The chandelier is off the rocker stupid. The rest just sucks.
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u/SpirituallyUnsure Jun 09 '23
This is how the outside world has seen America since he got elected.
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u/ComatoseCrypto Jun 09 '23
This will be in a a high school history book 100 years from now. What if that was your claim to history? Think about that for a minute.
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u/go_outside Jun 10 '23
Naw, that history book will be banned.
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u/ComatoseCrypto Jun 10 '23
Between Paxton in Texas being impeached, Santos being indicted, and now Trump, it’s open season
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u/comma_in_a_coma Jun 09 '23
Multiple conservatives I have talked to to try to see if there’s a crack in their cult swear there’s a SCIf in mar-crime-o as if that makes selling our military and national secrets to god knows who isn’t the problem.
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u/mothman83 Florida Jun 09 '23
Assuiming the SCIF existed does the SCIF contain inside of it all the locations where documents were photographed?
Because if it doesn't....
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u/comma_in_a_coma Jun 09 '23
https://i.imgur.com/LabSYYQ.jpG this is where he was storing some of the documents. Note, an unlocked room in his literally public golf and crime emporium
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u/gooch3803 Jun 10 '23
I think the most surprising thing about this picture is how shitty that bathroom looks. It looks like someone made off with discount items from a Home Depot and designed their 1 bed 1 bath apartment shitter with it.
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u/comma_in_a_coma Jun 10 '23
Trump has literally zero class. It’s why he’s never been accepted by rich people in New York besides the ones who are using him. It’s one of his biggest grievances
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u/tinteoj Kansas Jun 10 '23
A lot of Trump can be explained by him being from Queens instead of Manhattan. I used to live in Queens and love the borough but you're not going to impress any of the old money, UES-types being from there.
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u/comma_in_a_coma Jun 10 '23
I think the fact that he’s an ignorant buffoon who is an uncultured swine is probably part of it. But what do I know, I grew up in Manhattan and always loved forest hills
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u/aelysium Jun 10 '23
Irrelevant.
He wasn’t charged under S1924. It was S793(e).
Tl;dr - document classification is irrelevant. If they contained national defense info, and Trump after being told they did was uncooperative in supplying them… he’s in trouble.
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u/Kajiic Texas Jun 10 '23
For a while, I thought that fucking photo of him standing in the Whitehouse with the PILES of fast food was a fucking embarrassment. But this? This is a whole new level.
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u/SimplyTennessee Jun 09 '23
Oh my goodness was that real?
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u/TechyDad Jun 09 '23
Yes. They were also on a stage and strewn across the floor of a storage room. And these locations weren't locked down, but were often open for people to access.
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u/mymomknowsyourmom Jun 09 '23
The photo of our nation’s classified documents sitting in a bathroom next to a toilet is an embarrassment. Really just reckless and criminal behavior by the worst President in American history.
Bff with Russia who partnered with China who have his daughter dozens of Chinese trademarks.
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u/FigNugginGavelPop Jun 09 '23
And Saudi Arabia, to whom his son-in-law sold Nuclear secrets and got $2bn in exchange for.
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u/GreatTragedy Jun 09 '23
Reality Winner got 5 years for leaking a single document which showed Russia had hacked our voting systems.
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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Jun 09 '23
11 espionage act violations was enough for them to sentence the Rosenbergs to death. Trump got 31 charges so far related to the espionage act. He's really lucky that Garland reversed HIS(Trump's) order to re-instate the federal death penalty or he could've been the first president sentenced to death.
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u/dirtywook88 Jun 10 '23
Now, what if his actions are found to have directly led to the loss of life?
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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Jun 10 '23
I mentioned it in another reply but Guantanamo Bay should definitely be an option if that's the case. And he won't escape from there, nor have a platform for his continued rhetoric.
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u/dirtywook88 Jun 10 '23
Gitmo is acceptable to me, to a point. None of this house arrest shit and tbh you can’t have him in a normal prison.
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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Texas Jun 10 '23
ADX Florence exists and would be supremely suited to hold the former president.
23 hour lock down with minimal human contact. He'd consider it hell.
His prison mates would include such personalities like Terry Nichols (the surviving OKC bomber) and the only guy convicted in the US in connection with 9/11
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u/GreatTragedy Jun 10 '23
Except there's little chance his conviction will even send him to prison. The best I'm hoping for is decades of house arrest and prohibition from ever holding public office.
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u/AaronfromKY Kentucky Jun 10 '23
We have Guantanamo Bay. Probably not the greatest PR place to send him but he won't escape. And we wouldn't have to hear from him ever again. Especially if they connect the dots to establish that his acts resulted in American deaths.
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u/The_Navy_Sox Jun 09 '23
But what about Hunter, Joe, and Hillary? From what I understand saying their names proves Trump is innocent and this is a witch hunt! Checkmate liberals.
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u/DFX1212 Jun 09 '23
I...no, you are right. We gotta give you this one. You said the magic words.
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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 09 '23
Republicanism has devolved into a cargo cult of words
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u/aintnochallahbackgrl Michigan Jun 09 '23
Has nothing to do with being Jane Q Public and everything to do with him having the magic R next to his name. If Jane Q Public were an R team player, the same ho-humming would happen.
Heaven forbid it was a D team player.
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u/WilmaNipshow Jun 09 '23
They are not secrets anymore. Assume the worst and prepare accordingly.
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u/2_Spicy_2_Impeach Michigan Jun 09 '23
I have to believe there were foreign intel agents all over that fucking place. I also find it hard to believe that no foreign intel agency didn’t know all that shit was there. Probably thought it was a fucking trap because it was so easy.
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u/FigNugginGavelPop Jun 09 '23
As far as I can recall, the previous HIC led by the democrats called for National Security Risk assessment regarding the fallout of the TOP SECRET documents in the hands of hostile nations in case they were sold by Trump and his crime family. I never heard a follow up to that.
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u/Boomstick101 Jun 09 '23
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html. CIA reported an unusual uptick in informants that were lost in 2021.
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u/hellhastobempty Jun 10 '23
He had a list of all of them, he specifically requested it…
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u/DualityEnigma I voted Jun 10 '23
Horrifying, even more so because we all suspected this would happen
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u/Common_Notice9742 Jun 10 '23
Trump should be sued civilly by the family members of the fallen agents. And others have damages against this dude. I’m not saying they’ll see money. It’s symbolic justice.
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u/mycruelid Jun 10 '23
I hate to defend TFG, but that's a mischaracterization.
The headlines said "President demands list of top US spies".
Real story is "President asks aides to compile a list of people with the clearance and credentials to be possibly named Director of the CIA if he replaces Gina Haspel".
He aske for an upper-management roster, not a list of covert operatives.
Now, did TFG or Jared Kushner give sensitive information to foreigners that got spies killed ? Maybe. I am very confident that Kushner was selling the Presidential Daily Brief.
But it wasn't part of that one well published story.
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u/Doright36 Jun 10 '23
I also find it hard to believe that no foreign intel agency didn’t know all that shit was there.
Half the maid staff was probably spies for other countries.
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u/riverbedwriter Jun 09 '23
Prediction: every single document in Trump’s possession was copied and sold to the Saudis for $2B
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u/ulutini Jun 09 '23
Prediction: every single document in Trump’s possession was copied and sold to the Saudis for $2b
Yes and, how much do you think he got for letting lil Jared give mbs the top secret list of Saudis who were not loyal to him, who then:
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u/tims1979 Jun 09 '23
Tinfoil hat conspiracy time. Trump is pretty close with Vince Mcmahon. WWE is now having major events in Saudi Arabia a couple of times a year.
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u/CrazyMarlee Jun 10 '23
Don't the Saudis own WWE?
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u/tims1979 Jun 10 '23
They were supposedly in the running to buy the WWE. Now it is being sold to Endeavor who also owns the UFC.
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u/yousame Australia Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
"This is a terrible thing"
No. It's fantastic
“But it’s also a terrible thing for the nation to have to see a president go through the federal criminal process,”
On the contrary, it's a wonderful thing for people to see that the system they depend on demonstrates that an elected leader who has gone rogue, is not above the law
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u/droans Indiana Jun 10 '23
"No first world country would ever prosecute a former leader!"
Yeah, pretty much every other first world nation has.
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u/yousame Australia Jun 10 '23
Even if they haven't, we hope that they all would.
That's what democracy is about, after all.
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u/badsleepover Jun 10 '23
It’s amazing how many people I’ve seen prioritizing optics over actually upholding the law to protect democracy. It’s insane.
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u/No_Foot_1904 Minnesota Jun 09 '23
Well said. That’s certainly the lesson my parents drilled into me about Watergate once upon a time. How far we’ve fallen. A fucking TV game show host kept nuclear secrets in his gaudy bathroom.
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u/yousame Australia Jun 10 '23
Trump's crookedness, narcissism and the retribution for that are much more on display. The 'falling' happens every single time people abrogate their responsibilities and arrogate powers to themselves
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u/Nerevarine91 American Expat Jun 10 '23
Nothing quite sums up that presidency like a photo of boxes of classified documents being stored in a golf course bathroom with a gaudy chandelier and a low-profile toilet.
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u/Vendedda Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
actually a hotel resort bathroom loaded with some interesting reading material
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u/TechyDad Jun 09 '23
It's great that Trump is being held accountable, but it's terrible that this is necessary.
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u/Perfect_Bench_2815 Jun 10 '23
What is really terrible is that this guy got to the Whitehouse! So much questionable behavior should have stopped him by the Republican party. He has yet to answer for what he did in Georgia. The hits are still coming soon. He has had tons of lawyers trying to defend him and his followers are donating their money to a billionaire? He is running for President again to avoid his criminal behavior. Only in America.
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u/yousame Australia Jun 10 '23
I think that there's nothing terrible about discipline
It's an understanding that we all know that people can be crooks, frauds, cheats, liars and that we can do something about that once it's found out.
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u/ImLikeReallySmart Pennsylvania Jun 10 '23
They say that, then at the same time salivate about taking down Biden for whatever reason.
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u/yousame Australia Jun 10 '23
slime mould is very adaptive and always helps extend the swamp on which it depends
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u/No_Body2428 Jun 10 '23
I mean he is above 99% of the law. This showed the bare minimum after he was quite literally flaunting he was breaking the law.
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u/Randomwhitelady2 Jun 10 '23
Did Trump have anything to do with all those CIA informants being killed a couple years ago? I really want to know!
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html
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u/ndndr1 Jun 10 '23
I really wish I could be alive in a hundred years or whatever it is when the treasure trove of documents from this era gets released to the public
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u/KennyDROmega Jun 09 '23
While the GOP folks are simply never going to change their tune, I wonder how this is playing with the military and intelligence communities.
This fat, elderly dipshit recklessly put them in danger because "these documents are so cool, I can show them off to remind people I was president!"
Seems like the kind of thing that would piss them off.
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u/originalityescapesme Jun 10 '23
I strangely hadn’t even gotten around to thinking about that yet. I’m now deeply curious how people in the military are reacting to this.
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u/RandomAccount_OU812 Jun 10 '23
Chinese woman arrested at Mar-a-Lago had device to detect hidden cameras, officials say
"A terrible thing" is the understatement of the year if this is any indication as to the types of people who gained access to the property.
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u/chill_winston_ Jun 10 '23
She’s just one who got caught. Imagine how much the more competent spies made off with!
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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
It’s also totally possible she didn’t trust Trumps bathrooms would be free of hidden cameras for upskirt videos.
/s
But also not /s
Edit- To be clear here, it’s a joke about how he’s a creep.
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u/hellhastobempty Jun 09 '23
He’s still got more boxes…
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u/McNuttyNutz I voted Jun 10 '23
id say that's a safe bet dig up what's her face
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u/deadsoulinside Pennsylvania Jun 10 '23
If nuclear secrets can be sitting around like that... Can you imagine what he really needs to hide?
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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA Jun 10 '23
If he doesn’t spend the rest of his life in prison for this, this country is over.
Because once Republicans learn you can get away with this level of crime and walk away, they aren’t going to ever reconsider doing it again.
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u/LatterTarget7 Jun 10 '23
I really hope they throw the book at him to prove a point. You have to set a precedent that you can’t get away with compromising national security this badly. They should make an example out of him for it, or this shit is just gonna become more common
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u/ranchoparksteve Jun 09 '23
Plus, Donald Trump probably felt that the nation’s secrets weren’t nice enough to be near the living residences. At one point he wanted nicer box lids, of all things.
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u/Trivia_C Jun 09 '23
He wanted new lids because his lackeys wrote notes (probably the contents) on them. In case the Chinese spies had a hard time finding the ones with 'Top Secret Nukulerr Dox (BEST EVER!!!)' in them, I imagine.
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u/socellatus Jun 09 '23
My grandmother's tuna casserole was a terrible thing. This is treason and the country needs to see our leaders held accountable for their crimes.
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u/chenjia1965 Jun 10 '23
I recall that treason calls for capital punishment. I feel like this definitely falls under it, but half the country will still jack him off using his tiny sausage fingers
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u/Stock-Ad-5502 Jun 10 '23
Trump's mentor Roy Cohn was influential in having the Rosenbergs executed for treason when they were caught spying for Russia.
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The end of the indictment lists what the DOJ is asking - 30years max/3min x 7 specific charges
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u/GrandmasShavedBeaver Jun 10 '23
If on his first day of his presidency, you were to tell me that all this would end with him facing potentially hundreds of years behind bars with over 30 counts of espionage, and several other serious court cases waiting in the wings, I would have completely believed you.
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u/comma_in_a_coma Jun 09 '23
Now we know why the republicans fabricated the burisma stuff https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/trump-jr-blasts-doj-indictment-biden-bribe-allegations
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u/smiama6 Jun 10 '23
They all knew who he was. They knew he was a moron. They knew he was dangerous. They protected and defended him for years. Pretending to be suddenly alarmed... not working.
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u/dkfromthebk Jun 10 '23
“The indictment is devastating. Those who defended Trump before the charges were made public, or those who have not yet spoken, should very carefully weigh how history will consider their statements,” John Bolton, Trump’s third national security adviser, told POLITICO.
I like how they slipped in Bolton was his third NSA.
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u/Pdonk5 Jun 10 '23
Reminds me of Schiff's first impeachment speech.
All those senators could have prevented this and they chose not to.
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u/pjflyr13 Jun 10 '23
This is what you get when your job qualifications and restrictions to be the President or in Congress are lower than MacDonalds.
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u/Easy_Explanation4409 Jun 10 '23
Wasn’t there a Russian or Chinese agent arrested inside Mar a Lago a few years ago!
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u/Special_Lemon1487 Jun 10 '23
He is now a serious flight risk. Hopefully they’re not sitting on their hands on that.
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u/ill0gitech Australia Jun 10 '23
I’m surprised the NY Judge allowed him out of the country.
People say the Secret Service would bring him back, as they are US Law Enforcement. But I don’t see his detail illegally renditioning him if he seeks asylum in a non extradition country.
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u/pumpernickle_lalala Jun 10 '23
Wasn’t there a time when this sort of thing would have resulted in execution?
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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA Jun 10 '23
I’m anti death penalty but I’m absolutely willing to make an exception here and feel morally fine about that.
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u/badsleepover Jun 10 '23
I’m also anti-death penalty but I’m on the fence. Rotting in a cell in Guantanamo seems appropriate, I certainly wouldn’t be deeply upset if this asshole got the chair, though.
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u/chill_winston_ Jun 10 '23
I hope they nail him to the fucking wall. If trump somehow ISN’T an outright traitor then he’s a complete fucking idiot who should never be let near anything important ever again (or in the first place, but spilled milk and all that).
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u/Timely_Summer_8908 Jun 10 '23
You were warned. Democrats have been screaming warnings for months. Years. Now, I get political noise can get a bit biased and it's not always reliable, but agents are dying! Shouldn't that have been an indication that something was wacky? Shouldn't you have at least raised an eyebrow at all the significant times he was in a room with Putin with no documentation? That orange mf got his grubby little hands on so much information and I could almost guarantee you he's selling it. You need to start taking this seriously. He's a traitor with a massive following of idiots.
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u/keninsd Jun 10 '23
Honestly, I was more "alarmed" over the stunning display of bad taste in that bathroom where some of those docs were placed.
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u/e9tjqh Jun 10 '23
Are we at Rosenberg levels yet
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u/purpleWheelChair California Jun 10 '23
I think we are beyond that now. I read that there is likely a link between the murdered cia assets from a few years ago and these documents.
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u/Count_Bloodcount_ Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
The thing that gets me is conservatives are so infatuated with the idea that he declassified the documents, they don't seem to grasp that even if he did, which he didn't, he's got sensitive materials pertaining to national security strewn about his shitter. Like, what the fuck? How do you defend that?
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u/NoLack5170 Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
how many foreign assets died because of this bought out piece of trash?
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u/tinacat933 Jun 10 '23
I wonder if they are ever going to be able to link him back to the dead spies
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u/badsleepover Jun 10 '23
You’d think the punishment for that would have to lean towards death penalty territory
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u/TrumpsCovidfefe Jun 10 '23
Garland rescinded the death penalty for federal crimes, and honestly, I think that’s a good thing. And as much joy as it would bring me, I hope Trump really lives to be 200 and spends the rest of his natural life in a cell.
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u/Onwisconsin42 Jun 10 '23
Why havent his other properties been searched?
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u/badsleepover Jun 10 '23
Seriously. As macabre as it is to say I feel like they need to exhume Ivana as well
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u/Killieboy16 Jun 10 '23
In the UK we've got rid of our previous Prime Minister for lying to parliament about having parties during covid.
And you guys are struggling to convince your population that your ex-president (sex offender, tried to overthrow government and breaker of his own espionage act) shouldn't be president again?
What a shit show you have become.
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u/shizzy10 Jun 10 '23
How’s Brexit working out for you? Not to say we’re not a shit show at the moment but you guys are co-headliners.
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u/Killieboy16 Jun 10 '23
As a Scotsman whose country voted massively against it, its a fucking shitshow we have no responsibility for.
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u/metroid23 Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
I'm having a really hard time understanding what anyone would want with those documents beyond leverage or selling them.
Like, what, are you going to go back and reminisce about the times you did something classified? I don't get it. What's the angle for why anyone would want entire rooms filled with paper beyond the totally obvious?
Keep little mementos? Sure.
A person who doesn't even read keeping entire store rooms filled with secret information? I have questions. Who doesn't have questions? This should be totally beyond the pale.
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u/TeamHope4 Jun 10 '23
I'm glad someone is concerned and saying so. The media is giggling over pictures of boxes stored in the shower instead of reiterating seriously and stressing repeatedly how dangerous to our national security, and that of our allies, Trump's theft of classified national security files is.
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u/CurtisLeow Florida Jun 09 '23
What was the motivation? It's going to come up in the trial. Why did he steal these documents in particular? Why did Trump act like he had a right to the documents? He clearly knew they were classified. Trump acknowledged that in the recording. He knew the DoJ would go after him if he didn't return the documents. The Archives, the FBI repeatedly told Trump this, over and over again.
Why not just read and return the documents, in 2021 or early 2022? Couldn't he have just copied what he didn't read, then returned the documents anyway? He doesn't even really need the originals. I get that Trump broke the law here. I just don't understand why he would do this, when warned over and over. I don't see anything in the indictment about motivation either, unless I'm missing something.
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u/MyLastThrowaway1313 California Jun 09 '23
Because he has a classic case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He's an entitled egomaniac who literally believes he is above the law. I really hope I get to see his ass go to prison.
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u/NeededMonster Jun 09 '23
Trump is a very very stupid man. I can't believe some people are still surprised to hear it...
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u/Common_Notice9742 Jun 10 '23
I’ve seen action movies. Let me question the fucker.
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u/ComatoseCrypto Jun 09 '23
The ironic part is a lot of these types seem to support Trump. Hence: My life/Security/Safety or Support Trump. I don’t understand this cult
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u/combustioncat Jun 10 '23
It alright though everybody, you see Trump had already declassified the US’s NUCLEAR SECRETS (with his MIND) so what he did is totally not illegal now, and everything is cool and he should just go free and everything is totally a witch hunt and also completely not fair because of Hilary Clinton and Hunter Biden.
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u/ufoalien987 Jun 10 '23
When I go to the library to check out a book they know which books I have and due date. Why don’t the archives know what’s missing and who has them. Seems like a huge government reorg is long over due. Top secret docs without a tracking mechanism? Maybe they need to buy apple AirTags
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u/MalaZeria Jun 10 '23
Crazy how $2B can really convince someone with no ethical or moral code to do something.
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u/ItsHammyTime Jun 10 '23
Fun fact. The same type of charges have resulted in the death penalty. Not to say Trump deserves it (he is a fucking idiot though) but it just goes to show how serious the crime.
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u/Access60067 Jun 10 '23
Sooner or later the “whisperer’s “ need to come forward until than it’s hearsay or uncontested gossip
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u/JALKHRL Jun 10 '23
To whom he showed the documents? in exchange of what? I want to know what was the goal of removing such documents instead of copying them.
With Trump as main character, nothing makes sense.
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