r/politics • u/myTchondria • Jun 10 '23
Trump Extremists Demand Civil War, Mass Murder After New Indictment
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-indictment-violence-the-donald-mass-killing-1234768146/1.2k
u/sedatedlife Washington Jun 10 '23
The FBI really should be watching the proud boys in the coming days.
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u/mvallas1073 Jun 10 '23
It’s not the Proud Boys I’m worried about… it’s all their affiliates and the unreported Neo Nazi hate groups we DON’T know about.
Remember, you didn’t know jack shit about the Proud Boys until they actually started doing shit.
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u/FriesWithThat Washington Jun 10 '23
Idaho has been loosening their restrictions on militias lately.
[Feb 10, 2022] While the anti-militia law is currently not enforced in Idaho, removing it would limit the obstructions to private militias, which operate outside state authority and are unaccountable to the public, legal experts say. Similar anti-militia laws have been used to halt paramilitary activity through the courts in other states, the Idaho Statesman reports.
[March 8, 2023] Idaho Is On Track to Repeal Its Anti-Militia Law. The state has a troubled history with extremist paramilitary groups [Aryan Nations]* . During debate on the House floor, Boise Democratic Rep. John Gannon said now is not the time to repeal the anti-militia law, noting it was put into place a few years after then-Gov. Frank Steunenberg was assassinated by Harry Orchard in a culmination of violent mining labor confrontations between pro-union forces and those who opposed the mine workers’ federation.
“In fact it should stay on the books — it’s been there for over a century and there are reasons for this,” Gannon said.
“Once the private militia starts taking actions, overthrowing governments, taking over buildings, do other activities as a private militia, then the law steps in,” said Ruchti. “But by then, it’s too late.”
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u/Chief_Mischief Jun 10 '23
That's because it's Idaho. And as a fellow Washingtonian, I'm very nervous about the christo-fascist gun nuts there coming here after they've completely destroyed their own state.
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u/FriesWithThat Washington Jun 10 '23
Tired of having to pay the price for Idaho's conservative culture wars. It was that way during Covid too, especially in Idaho's Panhandle. Idaho had to transfer patients 6300 times just between August and November of 2021, with 1 in 3 of those patients winding up in Eastern WA. (Not that Eastern WA is a progressive paradise, just that it's not by any means Idaho). It should be noted that their rural healthcare hasn't gotten any better since, with many doctors afraid or unwilling to practice in a State with their extreme abortion laws in place (even banning out of state travel for minors aided by an adult).
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u/childrenofruin Jun 10 '23
I get texts every week about MD job offers in Idaho, they really need doctors.
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u/myTchondria Jun 10 '23
Well that isn’t going to happen with their draconian laws. It will be the least safest place to be pregnant and have a baby. It has become an OB Gyn desert. So much for pro life rhetoric.😱
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u/childrenofruin Jun 10 '23
Oh I'm aware, those people just dig their own graves constantly, it's really weird.
I'm extremely aware of the nazi problem in Idaho.
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Jun 11 '23
I'm not a doctor but it affects other jobs as well. If I want to live in Idaho, I've not had children but abortion services are necessary if something goes wrong during a normal pregnancy. I'm not risking my wife dying if we have a kid there's a miscarriage. (Miscarriages are legally treated abortions and have no limitations on treatment in nearly all first world countries and even most 3rd world countries too).
It also indicates that this religious extremism has a hold on the state. Which is another reason to avoid living there. More bills will be coming from the nut jobs
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u/One-Distribution-626 Jun 10 '23
Under his eye?
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u/kaijunexus Pennsylvania Jun 10 '23
There's a potato joke in there somewhere...
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u/coastkid2 Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Seriously these militia groups should be outlawed & disbanded the minute they form. Why isn’t the FBI shutting them down? Pre-American Revolution the state initiated their formation only to fight British. These nuts need to be arrested and put in jail. Their “alt” version of US History is a total perversion.
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Jun 10 '23
I was RTVing in some mountain resort area in Arizona. Remarkable vistas, but somewhere on the mountain trail, I saw a pick up truck with it's truckbed filled with assault weapons. And of course, it was only covered by a comically undersized tarp.
I took a look at the driver seat, and it's exactly who you would expect to be driving a Ford F150 filled with assault weapons.
And lest I forget, there was more than one truck, just parked there on a dirt road, miles away from the city or a police station.
I hauled ass out of there as fast as a RTV could downhill a icy mountain road. No minority in that situation will ever end up in a warm fuzzy news piece if things started escalating.
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u/Taco-Dragon Jun 10 '23
you didn’t know jack shit about the Proud Boys until they actually started doing shit.
While this is true, I would also hope that the US govt. does a better job of tracking extremist groups than the average random citizen.
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u/clintCamp Jun 10 '23
Be prepared for random crazies trying to single handedly attack the wrong court houses all over the place.
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u/Kageyblahblahblah Jun 10 '23
On the other hand I’d avoid any food courts in Washington DC until this all blows over.
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u/Gryphin Jun 10 '23
"Meal Team Six has arrived in the LZ" "GRAVY SEALS, YOU HAVE A GO!" "Copy that, Operation Orange Chicken is a go."
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u/Senorpoppy117 Jun 10 '23
"Where is he?? Bring trump out here right now! We are takin him home!!"
"Sir this is literally a wendys..."
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u/I_AM_THE_BIGFOOT Jun 10 '23
"OK. I will have two Frostys. Now release Trump."
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u/dirtywook88 Jun 10 '23
Radicalization of loan wolfs is the tactic these days as it generates plausible deniability
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u/Upstairs-Pea7868 Jun 10 '23
“Loan Wolf” sounds like a Dog the Bounty Hunter spin-off that goes after debtors.
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u/JDSchu Texas Jun 10 '23
They're like loan sharks, except loan sharks are typically land-based, so naturally, loan wolves operate from underwater bases.
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u/ihateusedusernames New York Jun 10 '23
...loan wolf...
Literally what Trump is. He consumes loans and shits out debt.
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u/liltime78 Alabama Jun 10 '23
Bro, we all knew Jan. 6 was coming because they were advertising it on twitter, yet the Feds “didn’t have a clue”
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u/B0rnReady Jun 10 '23
They knew. Many were part of it, That's why they deleted there cell phone messages
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u/NeoPstat Jun 10 '23
I would also hope that the US govt. does a better job of tracking extremist groups than the average random citizen.
They seem to find it a lot easier to keep tabs on people when they're black.
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u/youre_soaking_in_it Maryland Jun 10 '23
Don't read up on the discord leaks story if you want to nuture that hope.
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u/mvallas1073 Jun 10 '23
I’m curious about these “Discord Leaks Story”. Seriously… what was found?
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u/bizzygreenthumb Minnesota Jun 10 '23
How did you not hear about this? An idiot posted top secret intelligence about Ukraine to his discord server to impress his friends after being called a cuck
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u/genericrich Jun 10 '23
I am convinced that there are engagement bots running loose on reddit. They just want you to talk to them to boost engagement metrics.
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u/mvallas1073 Jun 10 '23
Ohhhh, that guy? - I was under the impression there was some leaked bro-nazi discords that people infiltrated from the way you worded it
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u/whiskeybusinesses808 Jun 10 '23
They do a good job tracking people and groups like this, but they minimize the threat. Call them a "lone wolf", when it's clear they're not.
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u/AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren Jun 10 '23
They need to stop glorifying this with that name, lone wolf.
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u/L1A1 United Kingdom Jun 10 '23
Remember, you didn’t know jack shit about the Proud Boys until they actually started doing shit.
Some of us remember when they were just a bunch of shitty people who shoved dildos up themselves to own the libs. They’ve never been hidden, but for a long time they were just a fucking joke. Secret funding and being emboldened is what’s got them where they are, not hiding in the shadows and plotting.
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u/DustBunnyZoo Jun 10 '23
It’s not the Proud Boys I’m worried about… it’s all their affiliates and the unreported Neo Nazi hate groups we DON’T know about
There are around 450 known white supremacist groups in the US, with most of them concentrated in California, Florida, and Texas. I think if investigators and law enforcement focus on those three states first, it will lead to breaking up all the rest of the groups in the other states.
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u/azcurlygurl Jun 10 '23
Unfortunately, Christopher Look-the-other-way Wray is still in charge of the FBI. I knew more about what was going to happen on J6, just by being on Twitter and looking at Parler, than the FBI did. Unless Garland has forced him to start tracking domestic terrorism suspects, we're still screwed.
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u/laughingbandi7 Jun 10 '23
Actually, my wife (and I) had been aware of the Proud Boys and Gavin McInness (so?) and their forebears for years. She’s been trying to get people to see how dangerous they are, but few wanted to understand or accept it. The MRA movement transitioned into the Proud Boys/boogaloo boys/neo-nazi fascist movement.
Incel grievance combined with macho toxic misogyny and stewed in Goebbels-esque propaganda/brainwashing. That is what these people are, and no amount of tolerance or sympathy will reach them. Until they face real legal consequences for their behavior, they will continue to believe they are the aggrieved and wish for or commit violence against their perceived enemies.
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u/Anonamitymouses Jun 10 '23
Look at it this way.
If those nut jobs do anything they’ll be taken down by law enforcement and treated as the criminals and traitors they are.
Imagine how Jan 6 would universally be seen differently if those nut jobs had found Mike Pence.
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u/Content_Command_479 Jun 10 '23
The only place with more FBI agents than Quantico, Virginia is a white supremacist chat room.
They are very much watching these people.
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u/MC_Fap_Commander America Jun 10 '23
There isn't a brightside here, but I do think the indictment will 100% occupy their peanut brains. So maybe they'll cool it on the awful Pride event threats they've been making?
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u/omltherunner Iowa Jun 10 '23
I think it increases the possibility of outright violence. They seem bent on revenge.
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u/dbeman Jun 10 '23
I’m more concerned about multiple “lone gunman” situations…the people holed up in their homes turned bunkers who have been stockpiling weapons and waiting for their call to action. I fear multiple instances of simultaneous mental snaps leading to a series of mass shootings and bombings peppered throughout the country.
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u/adamiconography Florida Jun 10 '23
Something will happen, similar to Jan 6. The FBI will be like “damn if only we saw this coming!”
As we all literally reported dozens of Parler posts talking about shit going down on Jan 6, weeks leading up to the insurrection.
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u/Kaznero Jun 10 '23
The FBI is full of neo Nazis too though... We watched state and federal officials march in step with those monsters. They're not gonna police their own except to use them as fodder.
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u/alien_from_Europa Massachusetts Jun 10 '23
Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.
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u/jmnugent Jun 10 '23
“The only thing that’s going to change the course of this country from its present heading of a Marxist dictatorship,” the commenter wrote, “is if Trump stands up in Court and says ‘to all of my supporters, the tree needs watering and now is the time.’”
That these people still believe theres going to be some key-moment “trigger phrase” that “brings about the storm” (or whatever nonsense they believe),.., is laughable and sad.
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u/FunkyHedonist Jun 10 '23
"We are ready to civil war at a moment's notice, but first we just need Trump to say the magic words, hold up his ring, and summon Captain Planet. Then, ITS ON!!!"
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u/HonoredPeople Missouri Jun 10 '23
I don't believe has the power of heart! Or, any of the other elements either. Captain Toxic oerhaps?
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u/snarfsnarfer Jun 10 '23
Look up the eco villains from that show and it’s the spitting image of trump and his cabinet during his reign as president
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u/6BigZ6 Jun 10 '23
I mean, fun fact, Trump has been used as a model for terrible cartoon characters for decades, and it’s not even hard to notice. Just another reason most sane folks knew he was a fucking fraud from day 1.
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u/LosWranglos Jun 10 '23
He is of pig-like proportions and lives to devour the Earth's natural resources. His love for over consumption extends to every aspect of his behavior and is particularly evident in his "sloppy" eating habits.
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u/T-RexLovesCookies Jun 10 '23
Captain Caveman?
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u/Culverts_Flood_Away I voted Jun 10 '23
Don't you dare sully the name of that pure hairball. More like Captain Sewage.
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u/iStayedAtaHolidayInn Jun 10 '23
These are the same people who make survival bunkers but cried about not being able to get haircuts during COVID
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u/buttersstochfan-5956 Colorado Jun 10 '23
Where are these Marxist dictators?!
Are they in the room with us right now?
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u/YakInner4303 Jun 10 '23
If only they had paid attention to the fact that he was a spineless draft dodging coward who hasn't gotten any braver with age. And if they had been paying attention on Jan 6, that was his weaselly attempt to do just as they ask, without actually putting himself at risk. "Please master, come out from under your bed and bravely lead us on a course that will probably get us all killed or exiled." Pitiful.
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u/bensonnd Illinois Jun 10 '23
They don't care. They've fallen in love with their ideal version of him and that's it. All the evidence to contrary is just a bunch of haters and deep state wokeism.
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u/fairoaks2 Jun 10 '23
Tree needs watering…. Most of these yahoos will be peeing on trees.
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u/mvallas1073 Jun 10 '23
…they don’t already?
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u/GrungyGrandPappy New York Jun 10 '23
Indoor bathrooms are woke
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u/Antelope-Subject Texas Jun 10 '23
Not wiping to own the libs.
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u/dirtywook88 Jun 10 '23
It’s disturbing to know how real this is
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u/6BigZ6 Jun 10 '23
Libs are so full of shit they were the reason for the tp shortage during COVID. /s
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u/Scalpum Jun 10 '23
Why is peeing on trees bad? I am pretty fucking liberal and I like a country pee.
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u/fairoaks2 Jun 10 '23
Trump didn’t have to tell you it’s time to pee on the tree. You think for yourself
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u/CornucopiaMessiah13 Jun 10 '23
I love them trying to lean on a Jefferson quote when them and their overlords are the exact kind of tyrants he was talking about.
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u/Rawkapotamus Jun 10 '23
And the electoral college was specifically designed to prevent trump from being elected.
And the 2A is meant to prevent the fascist rise they are supporting.
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u/MommyLovesPot8toes Jun 10 '23
Yesterday, in another thread, someone shared this, which shook me to my core. It's not as piddling or laughable as you might think:
Christian Dominionism has the express purpose of instituting Christian theocracy in the US built on a social framework of Old Testament laws including racial segregation and defensive sequestration where undesirables are kept apart from the rest of society (camps) to protect society.
The movement is behind guys like Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Ken Paxton and, to a lesser degree, Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott (they don’t get full support since they’re papists, and Christian Dominionism is ultimately just for Protestants).
The movement is centralized and largely funded by the Green family, the people behind Hobby Lobby. They have a dark money organization called The Signatary that is also responsible for the He Gets Us ads.
The Christian Dominionists are Dispensationalist extremists who have a doctrine of Apocalyptic Accelerationism. They believe in the End Times, the Antichrist, Rapture (Christians fly up to heaven) and a period of hell on Earth heralding the return of Jesus and the end of the world, and eradication of all sinners and it’s all foretold in a prophecy.
Meaning they believe they can make the prophecy come true if they fulfill all its conditions. They genuinely want to end the world and they want to save as many souls as possible from eternal damnation. Works done in the name of salvation can cross almost any line except worship of “false idols” and that includes killing and use of force to persuade conversion. Like the Spanish Conquistadors, but with more neckbeard and AR-15s.
They’re on the move. Be careful and be aware. They’re very dangerous people.
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u/CoreyLee04 Jun 10 '23
They really think Trump has the mental capacity to say that sentence without mentioning himself and how great he is.
They don’t realize their god is nothing but a winy grandpa baby
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u/bobbycado Jun 10 '23
laughable and sad
And worrying considering these people are dumb enough to interpret trump scratching his ass as a trigger for violence
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u/Spankywzl Jun 10 '23
These folks wanting a civil war is just sad. They have no idea the amount of death and carnage they wish upon themselves, and for what? A chance to die under that ridiculous Trump/Rambo flag? (Okay, it's a little bit funny but mostly sad.)
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u/MagicSPA Jun 10 '23
They don't want civil war, they just want to thump their chest and threaten it.
They were fine with beating people to death and smearing faeces on the walls in the Capitol, but never forget that as soon as a single shot was fired at them they fled like rats.
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u/Lester_Diamond4 Jun 10 '23
They lack the courage to back up their conviction. Yalqueda can tongue my ass.
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u/meowmeow_now Jun 10 '23
They want a genocide or at minimum, lynching. They hate non white and I guess now trans people. They think “liberal” is a minority, made up of flamboyant gay men, drag queens and fat women with blue hair. They have no idea the amount of people who are liberal because we aren’t stereotypes. Their coworkers, their family their friends their neighbors.
I’m a whit woman, my husband is Jewish but “doesn’t look it”. We have two maga nut bars on my block. I don’t hid my politics, I just don’t bring it up unless it’s appropriate for the conversation. These idiots talk to us just assuming we LOVE trump as well. My mother is qanon, she knows my politics but still try’s to brainwash me. (Part of that cult is encouraging people to continue to redpill their family).
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u/dutchyardeen Jun 10 '23
These idiots talk to us just assuming we LOVE trump as well.
We had that all the time when we lived in Texas. Having lived in other parts of the country, Texas is the first place we didn't feel safe to put up campaign signs. It was better to just let our neighbors assume whatever they were going to assume because we're white.
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u/cracksintheegg Minnesota Jun 10 '23
This right here.
They're willing to kill for their cause, but not to die for it.
They just straight up want to murder people.
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u/rancidperiodblood Jun 10 '23
they don't want a civil war, they want to murder people who disagree with them, big difference, they don't want people shooting back
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u/ufafor Jun 10 '23
“China’s final warning,” “Russia threatens,” and “Republican extremists threaten” are all jus the same impotent authoritarian saber rattling BS nowadays, isn’t it?
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u/Cheshire_Jester Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
In their version of the civil war, they don’t die. They mow down waves of blue haired lesbians who don’t know how to use a rifle, they endure a fun, safe level of hardship. Someone else maybe pays the ultimate price at an Alamo they aren’t at, then maybe the military realizes they’re right and comes sweeping in to put a nice bow on it all.
They never have to spend weeks on weeks digging trenches back and forth, only to get HIMAR’d or drone grenaded when they’re sleeping. They never have to hear about entire towns worth of people they grew up with getting wiped out in a failed offensive. They never get tried, walked to the gallows, and hung for being on the losing side.
It’s always a rocking good time, just as cool as it needed to be, full of adventure with a huge payout in glory.
The American civil war is worth mentioning for sure, but that had some key nuances of its day that aren’t going to be applicable now. A second American civil war will be an animal of a type we haven’t yet classified. The one thing that’s nearly certain is that basically every apparatus of state will not be on the side of the insurrectionists.
It will be a confusing and bloody guerrilla campaign, for sure, but it won’t be like the last one. Decisive field battles will be rare if nonexistent. It will be the messiest counter-insurgency in history. America has fought a number of insurgent wars in the recent past, and lost, because the stakes were low. The stakes are national survival, this isn’t an insurgency that 1 percent of America rotates through for 9 to 15 months and then calls it a day when it doesn’t work out.
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u/Seeking_the_Grail Jun 10 '23
If we see anything, and that’s a big if, it’s more likely to be a modern version of “the troubles” than cataclysmic warfare.
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u/blueyceman Jun 10 '23
Wait till they can’t get their Big Mac because Mickey D’s windows were shot out. Then they’ll probably have a change of heart. At least the gravy seals have some extra calories packed on for tough times, amiright? /s
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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Jun 10 '23
Most of those beached whale LARPers would be toast within a week because they'd be unable to get insulin.
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u/medievalmachine Jun 10 '23
It’s so unpatriotic. Patriotism isn’t Trump, it’s sacrifice for your nation and believing in America and democracy even when the outcomes don’t benefit you. These crybabies will never be true patriots.
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u/Cepheus Jun 10 '23
Patriotism is recognizing that our country’s greatest asset is that we have a social contract that is based on rule of law and not fealty to a personality. George Washington was very clear about this, otherwise he would have been America’s king. Also, patriotism is about service to country in all its forms. Republicans are light years away from this concept right now. They want a king without rule of law. That is the most un-American idea ever. I’m not making a straw man here. The facts and statements are out there for all to see.
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u/GoneFishing36 Jun 10 '23
They never experienced the consequences of their actions. In fact, for most of their lives they have been emotionally pampered by the right, and fiscally pampered by the left. They feel like they are invincible, and why not, their experience has told them so, for so long.
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u/vaxick Jun 10 '23
If by mass murder, they mean mass incarcerating themselves, sure.
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u/MagicSPA Jun 10 '23
I would feel SO owned if they all got shot or locked up.
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u/Sciencessence Jun 10 '23
or if they bought a private island and ALL moved there
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u/Sciencessence Jun 10 '23
justice is a lot slower than nazi's with bullets. They are STILL rallying up participants from J6. A lot of innocent people could die from this. Just because some of the perpretrators get caught doesn't mean everything is even'ed out. For all we know DeathSantis would pardon them anyways.
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u/MyLastThrowaway1313 California Jun 10 '23
These people are dangerous lunatics. I hope if they do shit they are held to full account.
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u/Michael_G_Bordin Jun 10 '23
The people we call "Trump supporters" are neo-confederates who have been pining for a civil war their entire lives, fueled by the sentiments of their parents and grandparents. Trump just removed the perceived need for dog-whistles.
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u/ReplyingToFuckwits Jun 10 '23
They've also been doing terrorist attacks. The vast majority of politically motivated mass shootings come from the far right.
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u/myTchondria Jun 10 '23
I believe there are members of these groups that currently hold positions in law enforcement. I think they would literally let each other get away with murder.
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u/DustBunnyZoo Jun 10 '23
I believe there are members of these groups that currently hold positions in law enforcement.
There are. They are called "ghost skins". The FBI hasn’t released public numbers or estimates on the problem, but they have admitted it exists.
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u/all_mighty_trees22 I voted Jun 10 '23
More details please, im interested
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u/Great-King-of-Evil Jun 10 '23
Here's a declassified FBI Intelligence Assessment covering the topic. It expressly notes the possibility of widespread and undetected infiltration and highlights the lack of information surrounding the issue.
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u/Bauwens Jun 10 '23
The US government will let them get away with murder along with a paid vacation and or the ability to work the next precinct over.
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u/Much_Schedule_9431 Jun 10 '23
IF they do anything TRUMP should be legally held accountable. As he should have been/will? For Jan 6. Stochastic terrorism is a thing.
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u/ShakesbeerMe Jun 10 '23
Roll 'em all up and prosecute every single one of these treasonous confederates.
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u/thatcantb Jun 10 '23
Yah - doesn't this fall under incitement to political violence and threats to government officials? Kinda illegal? Can't we apply any consequences? I'm thinking we already have laws about this which could be enforced?
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u/babyBear83 Jun 10 '23
Who are they going to shoot? People in grocery stores? More Capitol riots? Just random in the streets anywhere? This is a big country. That’s going to be hard to organize. And 60% of us aren’t buying that bullshit. Good luck.
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u/cu_when_i_cu Jun 10 '23
RIP Bobby Joe, who gave his last full measure at the Battle of Cheesecake Factory
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u/MakesCakesEatsMud Jun 10 '23
The battle line will be drawn between the Walmart parking lot and the Target parking lot?
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u/GeebusNZ New Zealand Jun 10 '23
When the time comes that all those city-slickers come out of their ivory towers out into bumfuck nowhere whogivesadamn, you can bet that the folk of the land will rise up and defend themselves from oppression.
That, or they'll rally at Four Seasons landscaping before realizing they're out of their element and far from home before meekly dispersing.
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u/KeepYourDemonsIn Missouri Jun 10 '23
I want to be very clear: I'm in no way advocating for violence of any kind.
But these Right-Wing nutjobs are underestimating the mettle of some of us Liberals.
Don't confuse empathy, compassion, and love for weakness.
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u/astrocrepe3000 Jun 10 '23
They’ve been fed bs about their enemy being weak and unarmed. Fafo
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u/shastadakota Jun 10 '23
Not to mention mentally superior. Capable of critical thinking.
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u/Planktonoid Jun 10 '23
They see no value in that. And they won't even in the aftermath. They will just think we got lucky.
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u/KingBanhammer Jun 10 '23
It's... weirder than that. Their narrative requires the enemy to constantly be strong and threatening and also weak and unmanly at the same time (this is a common feature of fascism).
This constant doublethink causes these people to sort of lose their ability to properly gauge "the other" in terms of the real threat.
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u/beingmesince63 Jun 10 '23
Their Fox News drivel have convinced them they are the true Patriots. F’em. I’m a veteran and I will not let Trump win again. And I’ll do it without guns.
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u/davidgoldstein2023 Jun 10 '23
Don't confuse empathy, compassion, and love for weakness.
They always do lol
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u/OneLostconfusedpuppy Jun 10 '23
A guy at work started talking about civil war and how his side will win because no dem has guns. I tried to explain that narrative was incorrect….
He’s as dumb as the other right-wing nuts
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u/walrusdoom Jun 10 '23
My father (79, veteran) has told me many times: “Liberals know how to shoot too you know. Some of us very well.”
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u/wish1977 Jun 10 '23
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u/Funkit Florida Jun 10 '23
I keep reiterating his whole administration to the dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb South Park Mormon montage.
“And then trump said he magically unclassified the documents, dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb”
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u/daikatana Jun 10 '23
I can't help but think that if Biden were charged with these crimes that almost no one would be rushing to his defense, much less calling for violence.
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u/CplRicci Jun 10 '23
If the guy I voted for pulled any of this shit I would be so fucking embarrassed. I sure as shit wouldn't be doubling down every time it got worse.
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u/psymble_ Jun 10 '23
The opposite, I would be first in line to demand justice because I would feel betrayed
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u/RU4realRwe Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 11 '23
At least these freaks are being vocal about their threats, so it's easier for authorities to track them down..
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u/burningdownthewagon Jun 10 '23
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses...
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u/joeturman Jun 10 '23
For sure. People like, “haha, I can’t wait for them to get arrested by law enforcement or smoked by the military” are overlooking the fact that they’re made up of people who regularly consume right wing news.
Best case scenario they are sympathetic with right wing terrorists and do little to nothing to stop them. Worst case scenario, they’re helping them orchestrate attacks and giving away locations of people to lynch.
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Jun 10 '23
These guys are just nuts.
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u/throwaway_ghast California Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Do they not realize that liberals, progressives, and socialists are gun owners too? We're just not as loud about it. A civil war wouldn't be as one-sided as they think.
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u/GFR34K34 Wisconsin Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Plus the whole 1.4 million active military and $900B in annual military defense spending. Not like the American military conveniently sits out of a civil war.
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u/BudgetMattDamon Jun 10 '23
No, I do not think they're aware that stuff like the Socialist Rifle Association exists.
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Jun 10 '23
Except most everyone doesn’t realize external factors like foreign governments with a vengeance against America can and will likely support the next civil war to the same extent that the west has been supporting Ukraine. Look at it this way, prior to Russia invading Ukraine, the Ukrainian military was just sub-par. Now it’s likely in the top ten strongest militaries (so long it keeps being funded).
We need to stop thinking it’s a video game as the next potential civil war can and will be much more deadlier and harder to win.
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u/myTchondria Jun 10 '23
Do you think there is much possibility there will be more mass shootings etc as tRump trial picks up ?
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u/theodoremangini Jun 10 '23
The governments unwillingness to do anything about mass shootings guarantees more mass shootings. The ones related to trump's trial will be indistinguishable from any other Tuesday.
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u/JCButtBuddy Jun 10 '23
They might be a little bit more upset when he get indicted twice more this year.
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u/mvallas1073 Jun 10 '23
These dumb doinks believe they’re like the modern day Minute Men…
They need to be reminded that they’re not the Minute Men. Hell, they’re not even the 30 minute men! They’re the “I’ll get on that shit during halftime” men! >_<
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u/ALargePianist Jun 10 '23
Were they called minute men because they could be ready to fight in a minutes time?
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u/Zenfudo Jun 10 '23
In a minute’s notice. Think when firefighters get the call and rush to get ready. Like that
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u/RevB1983 Jun 10 '23
30 minute men is giving them a lot of credit. Most couldn't do anything physical, like hiking to a meet point with 50lbs+ on their back of gear for 30 min or more, let alone "get on shit at halftime" lol. The first bullet that flies anywhere near a right wing gravy seals head will start the pee flowing down the leg and the cries for mommy.
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Jun 10 '23
Yeah, I mean they tried to stop the winner of the presidential election from taking office. And when I say "they" it's not just the idiots that were at the Capitol, it's every one who says they would vote for Trump after he did Jan 6. There is no law to them. Lower than dogs
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u/Uhavetabekiddingme Jun 10 '23
Last time they tried this one bullet was fired and 4 of them wound up dead.
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u/BrassBass Jun 10 '23
What will happen:
Rednecks gather together in a group and hurt people.
Rednecks move into the woods to build a "base" and get surrounded by law enforcement and national guard.
Rednecks rapidly deplete all edible matter and contaminate their own water supply with human waste.
Rednecks get sick from preventable diseases, starvation, dehydration, and cold. Maybe a few die.
Rednecks surrender to police, get slap on wrist.
Conservative media labels it "heroic", blames the people the Rednecks hurt for being victims.
Not a god damn thing changes.
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u/mburke6 Ohio Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
The idea of the Gravy Seals starting a civil war is hilarious. Bring it on you fat paranoid idiots.
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u/bcallihan513 Jun 10 '23
Don’t forget to charge your scooter batteries. Party at the Oliver garden after
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u/ILooked Jun 10 '23
We whipped them when they called themselves Confederates. We whipped them when they called themselves KKK. We will whip them again.
Set ‘‘em up. Knock ‘em down.
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Jun 10 '23
The article doesn’t mention it, but even congresspeople are getting in on it. Chip Roy wrote a tweet full of military jargon that would be just enough for a visit from the FBI if a regular person wrote it. For that tweet alone, he should be censured. Of course, I bet more congress members are going to start tweeting batshit crazy stuff.
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u/wheelofka Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
36 republican congress members were in on the Jan. 6 and fake electors/election scheme. They are next to be indicted.
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u/Ilikepancakes87 Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Let them try.
And no, I don’t mean that figuratively. Let them try, and then put them in jail when they embarrass themselves like they did on January 6th.
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u/mvallas1073 Jun 10 '23
Man, I really REALLY want to say that…
But, at the same time, I’m also aware that would unfortunately mean the many injuries and deaths of innocent people for that to happen…
…and, at the same time, to be self aware enough that I myself could end up being one of those casualties.
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u/Morepastor Jun 10 '23
Bill Clinton was investigated for land deals as a Governor. The investigation wasn’t able to find anything illegal done by Clinton. They changed Special Counsels and still failed to find anything. During this investigation he had an affair with a staff member and this is what they impeached him for. No one declared civil war. Donald Trump is a fraud and even when some of his people showed up to hang VP Mike Pence and others they failed. He had the power to grant them pardons and instead he asked his friends in Congress to call them ANTIFA. There is a trail of convicts that have been created by his lawlessness and on that trail is his former lawyer who went to prison for what Trump for the crimes he has now been charged with in Manhattan and his CFO of his business and the Business itself have been charged with fraud and convicted.
TLDR; He is likely a fraud and won’t support you if you fail and even if he somehow becomes President he won’t pardon you. He didn’t Pardon Jan 6, his CFO, or his attorney. Don’t find yourself on that trail, find a better candidate who isn’t sloppy and lawless.
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u/Professional-Can1385 Jun 10 '23
Minor correction: Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about having an affair with an intern
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u/Morepastor Jun 10 '23
Correct and Trump said he wrote his own answers the the Special Counsel and they told him the evidence proves that one statement wasn’t true. He crossed out the original answer and the GOP did not care. Martha Stewart got destroyed for lying to investigators as well. Trump got away with something like 10 obstruction of justice incidents in his first investigation. He is a fumbling idiot.
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u/Due-Environment-9774 Jun 10 '23
Everyone thinks they are big and bad until the National Guard has an M4 pointed at your head and is starring at you like the insurrectionist you are.
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u/CreepyWhistle Jun 10 '23
Short conversation with a current servicewoman who is crying for civil war. More than willing to see citizens murdered for their political views. Carve out sections in states to move the rest into their own territory (Trail of Tears 2.0). Holy fuck.
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u/Realworld Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
It'll end the same way it did in 1957 when Governor Orval Faubus deployed the Arkansas National Guard to block court-ordered desegregation of Little Rock High School.
President Eisenhower responded by invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807, sent in the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army, and federalized the entire 10,000-member Arkansas National Guard, taking it out of Faubus's control.
edit: this was Eisenhower's way of reminding Faubus which side won the Civil War.
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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio Jun 10 '23
I get its funny to mock these idiots, but in realty its gonna be lone wolf shootings for years to come unfortunately
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u/GigglesFor1000Alex Jun 10 '23
As much as comments are people being funny, this stuff is anything but funny. It’s downright sad that there is so much hate in peoples hearts. The other thing that’s sad is the number of people who actually feel this way but won’t say it. It’s a sad place we live in. Never thought I would see so much evil in my life.
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u/BadAsBroccoli Jun 10 '23
Talking heads who call for violence won't be doing the fighting or doing the time served in jail for violence. They just call for "someone else" to make more sacrifices for a man who couldn't give two shits about his followers already serving time for him. Nor do those talking heads.
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u/penguished Jun 10 '23
What a bunch of LOSERS. This is like wanting to fight to get a corrupt King George to take America over. Imagine being that stupid and pathetic that you want to wank to some figurehead instead of doing something with the freedom and liberty you have in life.
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u/Bikewer Jun 10 '23
From my long police experience, it’s apparent that there are always a percentage of disaffected types who will scream and cry and threaten when something upsets them…. But that’s all they’ve got. They’re essentially just venting.
At the same time…. Such rhetoric has the danger of affecting that tiny percentage of the population that will actually do something, like shoot up a school or a public gathering….
We can dismiss much of this rhetoric, but we have to be wary of that tiny few.
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u/MikeinDundee Oregon Jun 10 '23
All it takes is one Tim McVay or Ted Kaszinski lone wolf to start the shit. Those types are nearly impossible to detect beforehand.
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u/chill_winston_ Jun 10 '23
I sincerely hope the FBI, NSA, and others are taking this shit seriously this time around. These are very dangerous idiots who are insane and angry.
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u/randomcanyon Jun 10 '23
“Why are we talking about anything but dragging the political elite out of their homes and setting them on fire?” asked a poster on online forum, The Donald
Free Speech in the internet age. Anonymous asshole gets to threaten gov officials because his cult leader may perhaps get a comeuppance for his lifetime of no consequences bullshit.
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u/Historical-Passion55 Jun 10 '23
A third of our country is sick , sick with a disease of Trumpism. And all these other Republicans that are jumping on the bandwagon and banging their own drum to Trump's world they ought to be put in jail too The biggest thing that we all have to do is join together and get out and vote and make sure none of these Republicans get back into office again.
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u/Opening_Meaning2693 Jun 10 '23
Of course they do. Some random MAGA hat will shoot up a black church or a hot yoga studio and think he's starting the revolution...same as Tuesday but more of it. The real victims will never be the 'big gubmint'.
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u/elconquistador1985 Jun 10 '23
Gonna go out on a limb here... maybe you should be charged with terrorism if you advocate for civil war and mass murder.
Crazy talk, I know.
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